For those of you who were so scared of the CRT bogeyman

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/07/09/controversy-teachers-dumbest-colleges/

“Hillsdale College — which Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called “a shining city on a hill” and which hired his activist wife, Ginni Thomas, to help establish a full-time presence in the nation’s capital — has became an important force in that movement under the leadership of Arnn, who has allied himself with former president Donald Trump. The college has helped launch dozens of “classical” charter schools across the country (Hillsdale doesn’t own or operate the schools but trains faculty and staff and shares curriculum) — and, now, at Lee’s invitation, Hillsdale is helping to open at least 50 charter schools in Tennessee. Charter schools are publicly funded but privately operated.”

“The charter schools use a Hillsdale K-12 curriculum that is centered on Western civilization and designed to help “students acquire a mature love for America.” A Hillsdale K-12 civics and U.S. history curriculum released last year extols conservative values, attacks progressive ones and distorts civil rights history, saying, for example: “The civil rights movement was almost immediately turned into programs that ran counter to the lofty ideals of the Founders.” Hillsdale College itself offers a “classical liberal arts core” to its students; the website lists more than 30 authors and thinkers that students will encounter — nearly all of them White men”

While there is still not a single K-12 school that teaches CRT, conservatives are openly attacking education and rewriting history. On one hand, I’m impressed they were able to make Dems out as CRT monsters while they were the ones doing the actual manipulating of history. On the other, I’m so embarrassed for my friends and fellow voters in VA that fell for it.

Ummmm... thanks but... my kids don't go to charter schools

But if you live in Virginia, this is what Glenn Youngkin is trying to do to schools. He preyed on white moms who were scared about their kids' education during the pandemic and now he's taking advantage of them and using them to set his own agenda. You'll see the changes this year.

This is all part of the GOP master plan which includes curtailing women's civil rights and providing indoctrination for the Christian Theocracy.

Yup.

Good bye, good public schools. Property values. Tax revenue from businesses.

Hope it was all worth it over a non-existent issue.

My property values aren't good because of my school. I'd love these charter schools that you're threatening. How can I send my kids?

The charter schools aren’t for all kids. Your kids are still at their school - which will further decline - unless they’re lucky enough to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/07/09/controversy-teachers-dumbest-colleges/

“Hillsdale College — which Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called “a shining city on a hill” and which hired his activist wife, Ginni Thomas, to help establish a full-time presence in the nation’s capital — has became an important force in that movement under the leadership of Arnn, who has allied himself with former president Donald Trump. The college has helped launch dozens of “classical” charter schools across the country (Hillsdale doesn’t own or operate the schools but trains faculty and staff and shares curriculum) — and, now, at Lee’s invitation, Hillsdale is helping to open at least 50 charter schools in Tennessee. Charter schools are publicly funded but privately operated.”

“The charter schools use a Hillsdale K-12 curriculum that is centered on Western civilization and designed to help “students acquire a mature love for America.” A Hillsdale K-12 civics and U.S. history curriculum released last year extols conservative values, attacks progressive ones and distorts civil rights history, saying, for example: “The civil rights movement was almost immediately turned into programs that ran counter to the lofty ideals of the Founders.” Hillsdale College itself offers a “classical liberal arts core” to its students; the website lists more than 30 authors and thinkers that students will encounter — nearly all of them White men”

While there is still not a single K-12 school that teaches CRT, conservatives are openly attacking education and rewriting history. On one hand, I’m impressed they were able to make Dems out as CRT monsters while they were the ones doing the actual manipulating of history. On the other, I’m so embarrassed for my friends and fellow voters in VA that fell for it.

You are manipulating language to serve your political goals. CRT in the media is shorthand for the tenets that are outgrowths of CRT and you know this. And from my view as a teacher, you absolutely must know that those tenets have infected nearly every lesson plan. So stop with your "no school teaches CRT" and realize that no one is that dumb. Go to teacherspayteachers or any curriculum vendor and see the fruits of the CRT tree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FUN FACT

CRT IS NOT TAUGHT IN ONE CLASSROOM IN THE US FULL STOP

GOP LIARS
REPUBLICAN LIARS
REPUBLICANS CAN NOT READ FOR THEMSELVES.

EVERY CURRICULUM IN THE US IS ONLINE

Americans are lazy and stupid. Who doesn't look this up? It is not hard people. If you are on this website you were capable of looking this up.

Don't you know what your kids are taught?

Idiots VA is full of idiots who are lazy.

CRT not taught in one classroom in the US. Fact.

Are you OK? Maybe it’s time to get off of the internet. Be well.

DP. None of us are ok. VA idiots are destroying our state.

Why aren’t you mad?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure why this surprises you OP. Hillsdale is a very conservative college and of course their perspectives on education are quite different than what the progressives advocate for. If you really want to make a difference in public education, I suggest running for school board or becoming a teacher instead of ranting on anonymous forums.

Better aim higher. The whole point of the charter movement is an end run around local school boards.

Of course. OP should vote for or donate money to anti-charter politicians if they are against charter schools. Does this really need to be said.

Either way I’m not sure what emotional rants about Hillsdale on an anonymous moms board is going to solve. Oh right, OP will feel better about themselves by public venting that changes nothing and influences no one.

I must be an incredible writer if you felt so much emotion out of my OP

isn’t the point of this forum to discuss schools and general education. This seems like a great place for this info to be shared and discussed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/07/09/controversy-teachers-dumbest-colleges/

“Hillsdale College — which Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called “a shining city on a hill” and which hired his activist wife, Ginni Thomas, to help establish a full-time presence in the nation’s capital — has became an important force in that movement under the leadership of Arnn, who has allied himself with former president Donald Trump. The college has helped launch dozens of “classical” charter schools across the country (Hillsdale doesn’t own or operate the schools but trains faculty and staff and shares curriculum) — and, now, at Lee’s invitation, Hillsdale is helping to open at least 50 charter schools in Tennessee. Charter schools are publicly funded but privately operated.”

“The charter schools use a Hillsdale K-12 curriculum that is centered on Western civilization and designed to help “students acquire a mature love for America.” A Hillsdale K-12 civics and U.S. history curriculum released last year extols conservative values, attacks progressive ones and distorts civil rights history, saying, for example: “The civil rights movement was almost immediately turned into programs that ran counter to the lofty ideals of the Founders.” Hillsdale College itself offers a “classical liberal arts core” to its students; the website lists more than 30 authors and thinkers that students will encounter — nearly all of them White men”

While there is still not a single K-12 school that teaches CRT, conservatives are openly attacking education and rewriting history. On one hand, I’m impressed they were able to make Dems out as CRT monsters while they were the ones doing the actual manipulating of history. On the other, I’m so embarrassed for my friends and fellow voters in VA that fell for it.

You are manipulating language to serve your political goals. CRT in the media is shorthand for the tenets that are outgrowths of CRT and you know this. And from my view as a teacher, you absolutely must know that those tenets have infected nearly every lesson plan. So stop with your "no school teaches CRT" and realize that no one is that dumb. Go to teacherspayteachers or any curriculum vendor and see the fruits of the CRT tree.

Omg. Schools acknowledged that racism exists.

Better tear it all down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure why this surprises you OP. Hillsdale is a very conservative college and of course their perspectives on education are quite different than what the progressives advocate for. If you really want to make a difference in public education, I suggest running for school board or becoming a teacher instead of ranting on anonymous forums.

Better aim higher. The whole point of the charter movement is an end run around local school boards.

Of course. OP should vote for or donate money to anti-charter politicians if they are against charter schools. Does this really need to be said.

Either way I’m not sure what emotional rants about Hillsdale on an anonymous moms board is going to solve. Oh right, OP will feel better about themselves by public venting that changes nothing and influences no one.

I must be an incredible writer if you felt so much emotion out of my OP

isn’t the point of this forum to discuss schools and general education. This seems like a great place for this info to be shared and discussed

So you are not 8:34 and 9:23? If so then I take back my comments about rants. The part about not changing anything still applies though. What exactly are you advocating that people do to improve public education?

[Anonymous]

Hillsdale's President recorded behind closed doors in Tennessee: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-teachers-come-from-dumbest-parts-of-dumbest-colleges-tenn-governors-education-advisor-tells-him

"Education destroys generations of people"
"Education. It's easy. You don't have to know anything," and
"We are going to try to demonstrate that you don't have to be an expert to educate a child because basically anybody can do it."

This is the school privatization agenda. Religious fanatics destroying traditional public education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hillsdale's President recorded behind closed doors in Tennessee: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-teachers-come-from-dumbest-parts-of-dumbest-colleges-tenn-governors-education-advisor-tells-him

"Education destroys generations of people"
"Education. It's easy. You don't have to know anything," and
"We are going to try to demonstrate that you don't have to be an expert to educate a child because basically anybody can do it."

This is the school privatization agenda. Religious fanatics destroying traditional public education.

I'm absolutely not a religious fanatic, but traditional public education is destroyed already. Anyone who says otherwise must be in a good public school without massive discipline issues, kids who come to school ready to learn and parents who care about their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/07/09/controversy-teachers-dumbest-colleges/

“Hillsdale College — which Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called “a shining city on a hill” and which hired his activist wife, Ginni Thomas, to help establish a full-time presence in the nation’s capital — has became an important force in that movement under the leadership of Arnn, who has allied himself with former president Donald Trump. The college has helped launch dozens of “classical” charter schools across the country (Hillsdale doesn’t own or operate the schools but trains faculty and staff and shares curriculum) — and, now, at Lee’s invitation, Hillsdale is helping to open at least 50 charter schools in Tennessee. Charter schools are publicly funded but privately operated.”

“The charter schools use a Hillsdale K-12 curriculum that is centered on Western civilization and designed to help “students acquire a mature love for America.” A Hillsdale K-12 civics and U.S. history curriculum released last year extols conservative values, attacks progressive ones and distorts civil rights history, saying, for example: “The civil rights movement was almost immediately turned into programs that ran counter to the lofty ideals of the Founders.” Hillsdale College itself offers a “classical liberal arts core” to its students; the website lists more than 30 authors and thinkers that students will encounter — nearly all of them White men”

While there is still not a single K-12 school that teaches CRT, conservatives are openly attacking education and rewriting history. On one hand, I’m impressed they were able to make Dems out as CRT monsters while they were the ones doing the actual manipulating of history. On the other, I’m so embarrassed for my friends and fellow voters in VA that fell for it.

You are manipulating language to serve your political goals. CRT in the media is shorthand for the tenets that are outgrowths of CRT and you know this. And from my view as a teacher, you absolutely must know that those tenets have infected nearly every lesson plan. So stop with your "no school teaches CRT" and realize that no one is that dumb. Go to teacherspayteachers or any curriculum vendor and see the fruits of the CRT tree.

Omg. Schools acknowledged that racism exists.

Better tear it all down.

I hate the conservative CRT panic, and I also hate the disingenuous responses from the left about CRT. Yes structural racism has perpetuated inequality that persists today. No, "critical race theory" is not specifically taught in K-12 classrooms. However, "CRT" is used as a broader catch-all for "anti-racist" type thinking that has made its way into the instruction of teachers and into classroom curriculum. It is not merely acknowledging racism or teaching that racist things happened in the past. It also includes focusing on things like white privilege (which exists) without also necessarily focusing on the myriad of other variables that form an individual and put things like "white privilege" into context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hillsdale's President recorded behind closed doors in Tennessee: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-teachers-come-from-dumbest-parts-of-dumbest-colleges-tenn-governors-education-advisor-tells-him

"Education destroys generations of people"
"Education. It's easy. You don't have to know anything," and
"We are going to try to demonstrate that you don't have to be an expert to educate a child because basically anybody can do it."

This is the school privatization agenda. Religious fanatics destroying traditional public education.

I'm absolutely not a religious fanatic, but traditional public education is destroyed already. Anyone who says otherwise must be in a good public school without massive discipline issues, kids who come to school ready to learn and parents who care about their kids.

No, the issue is not that some ideal version of schooling has been destroyed by bad kids and bad parents. The issue is that people try to use a public good like a finite, private resource to be hoarded and defended against thosekids and those parents. My kids attend Title 1 schools with students in public housing and I am deeply offended that you would suggest that the students don't come to school ready to learn or have caring parents.

Is it possible that your decision to reject public education as an option has led you to confirmation bias regarding its merits? After all, you wouldn't want the time and money you've spent avoiding public school to be for nothing.

FWIW, there are definitely things my kids aren't getting . . . fancy field trips and facilities, etc. But what they ARE getting is invaluable . . . a chance to see the humanity in people that many of their circumstances would simply avoid and judge. I can take them on field trips myself, but I can't teach them to love their neighbors as themselves unless I stop curating who gets to be their neighbor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/07/09/controversy-teachers-dumbest-colleges/

“Hillsdale College — which Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called “a shining city on a hill” and which hired his activist wife, Ginni Thomas, to help establish a full-time presence in the nation’s capital — has became an important force in that movement under the leadership of Arnn, who has allied himself with former president Donald Trump. The college has helped launch dozens of “classical” charter schools across the country (Hillsdale doesn’t own or operate the schools but trains faculty and staff and shares curriculum) — and, now, at Lee’s invitation, Hillsdale is helping to open at least 50 charter schools in Tennessee. Charter schools are publicly funded but privately operated.”

“The charter schools use a Hillsdale K-12 curriculum that is centered on Western civilization and designed to help “students acquire a mature love for America.” A Hillsdale K-12 civics and U.S. history curriculum released last year extols conservative values, attacks progressive ones and distorts civil rights history, saying, for example: “The civil rights movement was almost immediately turned into programs that ran counter to the lofty ideals of the Founders.” Hillsdale College itself offers a “classical liberal arts core” to its students; the website lists more than 30 authors and thinkers that students will encounter — nearly all of them White men”

While there is still not a single K-12 school that teaches CRT, conservatives are openly attacking education and rewriting history. On one hand, I’m impressed they were able to make Dems out as CRT monsters while they were the ones doing the actual manipulating of history. On the other, I’m so embarrassed for my friends and fellow voters in VA that fell for it.

You are manipulating language to serve your political goals. CRT in the media is shorthand for the tenets that are outgrowths of CRT and you know this. And from my view as a teacher, you absolutely must know that those tenets have infected nearly every lesson plan. So stop with your "no school teaches CRT" and realize that no one is that dumb. Go to teacherspayteachers or any curriculum vendor and see the fruits of the CRT tree.

Omg. Schools acknowledged that racism exists.

Better tear it all down.

I hate the conservative CRT panic, and I also hate the disingenuous responses from the left about CRT. Yes structural racism has perpetuated inequality that persists today. No, "critical race theory" is not specifically taught in K-12 classrooms. However, "CRT" is used as a broader catch-all for "anti-racist" type thinking that has made its way into the instruction of teachers and into classroom curriculum. It is not merely acknowledging racism or teaching that racist things happened in the past. It also includes focusing on things like white privilege (which exists) without also necessarily focusing on the myriad of other variables that form an individual and put things like "white privilege" into context.

Omg. Someone somewhere acknowledged that white people have privilege.

BURN IT ALL DOWN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hillsdale's President recorded behind closed doors in Tennessee: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-teachers-come-from-dumbest-parts-of-dumbest-colleges-tenn-governors-education-advisor-tells-him

"Education destroys generations of people"
"Education. It's easy. You don't have to know anything," and
"We are going to try to demonstrate that you don't have to be an expert to educate a child because basically anybody can do it."

This is the school privatization agenda. Religious fanatics destroying traditional public education.

I'm absolutely not a religious fanatic, but traditional public education is destroyed already. Anyone who says otherwise must be in a good public school without massive discipline issues, kids who come to school ready to learn and parents who care about their kids.

No, the issue is not that some ideal version of schooling has been destroyed by bad kids and bad parents. The issue is that people try to use a public good like a finite, private resource to be hoarded and defended against those kids and those parents. My kids attend Title 1 schools with students in public housing and I am deeply offended that you would suggest that the students don't come to school ready to learn or have caring parents.

Is it possible that your decision to reject public education as an option has led you to confirmation bias regarding its merits? After all, you wouldn't want the time and money you've spent avoiding public school to be for nothing.

FWIW, there are definitely things my kids aren't getting . . . fancy field trips and facilities, etc. But what they ARE getting is invaluable . . . a chance to see the humanity in people that many of their circumstances would simply avoid and judge. I can take them on field trips myself, but I can't teach them to love their neighbors as themselves unless I stop curating who gets to be their neighbor.

Very well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/07/09/controversy-teachers-dumbest-colleges/

“Hillsdale College — which Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called “a shining city on a hill” and which hired his activist wife, Ginni Thomas, to help establish a full-time presence in the nation’s capital — has became an important force in that movement under the leadership of Arnn, who has allied himself with former president Donald Trump. The college has helped launch dozens of “classical” charter schools across the country (Hillsdale doesn’t own or operate the schools but trains faculty and staff and shares curriculum) — and, now, at Lee’s invitation, Hillsdale is helping to open at least 50 charter schools in Tennessee. Charter schools are publicly funded but privately operated.”

“The charter schools use a Hillsdale K-12 curriculum that is centered on Western civilization and designed to help “students acquire a mature love for America.” A Hillsdale K-12 civics and U.S. history curriculum released last year extols conservative values, attacks progressive ones and distorts civil rights history, saying, for example: “The civil rights movement was almost immediately turned into programs that ran counter to the lofty ideals of the Founders.” Hillsdale College itself offers a “classical liberal arts core” to its students; the website lists more than 30 authors and thinkers that students will encounter — nearly all of them White men”

While there is still not a single K-12 school that teaches CRT, conservatives are openly attacking education and rewriting history. On one hand, I’m impressed they were able to make Dems out as CRT monsters while they were the ones doing the actual manipulating of history. On the other, I’m so embarrassed for my friends and fellow voters in VA that fell for it.

You are manipulating language to serve your political goals. CRT in the media is shorthand for the tenets that are outgrowths of CRT and you know this. And from my view as a teacher, you absolutely must know that those tenets have infected nearly every lesson plan. So stop with your "no school teaches CRT" and realize that no one is that dumb. Go to teacherspayteachers or any curriculum vendor and see the fruits of the CRT tree.

Omg. Schools acknowledged that racism exists.

Better tear it all down.

I hate the conservative CRT panic, and I also hate the disingenuous responses from the left about CRT. Yes structural racism has perpetuated inequality that persists today. No, "critical race theory" is not specifically taught in K-12 classrooms. However, "CRT" is used as a broader catch-all for "anti-racist" type thinking that has made its way into the instruction of teachers and into classroom curriculum. It is not merely acknowledging racism or teaching that racist things happened in the past. It also includes focusing on things like white privilege (which exists) without also necessarily focusing on the myriad of other variables that form an individual and put things like "white privilege" into context.

Omg. Someone somewhere acknowledged that white people have privilege.

BURN IT ALL DOWN.

There you go again. Just a completely disingenuous response. Yes "white privilege" exists in the sense that -- if all other variables are equal -- the white person is going to have an advantage in the U.S. over the nonwhite person. But, it's also true, that all other variables are never equal. For example, in most situations, an educated black person from a middle class background is going to have a leg up on an uneducated white person from a background of poverty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hillsdale's President recorded behind closed doors in Tennessee: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-teachers-come-from-dumbest-parts-of-dumbest-colleges-tenn-governors-education-advisor-tells-him

"Education destroys generations of people"
"Education. It's easy. You don't have to know anything," and
"We are going to try to demonstrate that you don't have to be an expert to educate a child because basically anybody can do it."

This is the school privatization agenda. Religious fanatics destroying traditional public education.

I'm absolutely not a religious fanatic, but traditional public education is destroyed already. Anyone who says otherwise must be in a good public school without massive discipline issues, kids who come to school ready to learn and parents who care about their kids.

No, the issue is not that some ideal version of schooling has been destroyed by bad kids and bad parents. The issue is that people try to use a public good like a finite, private resource to be hoarded and defended against thosekids and those parents. My kids attend Title 1 schools with students in public housing and I am deeply offended that you would suggest that the students don't come to school ready to learn or have caring parents.

Is it possible that your decision to reject public education as an option has led you to confirmation bias regarding its merits? After all, you wouldn't want the time and money you've spent avoiding public school to be for nothing.

FWIW, there are definitely things my kids aren't getting . . . fancy field trips and facilities, etc. But what they ARE getting is invaluable . . . a chance to see the humanity in people that many of their circumstances would simply avoid and judge. I can take them on field trips myself, but I can't teach them to love their neighbors as themselves unless I stop curating who gets to be their neighbor.

Idk man, there are 1,000 posts on this board with teachers complaining about kids who don't come to school ready to learn. Or that schools can't supply everything that kids need. Or that, indeed, there are kids without caring parents.

Do we listen to teachers about that?

Also, I'm trying to understand how public school is "hoarded", in the context of DC schools. Yes, the school you can immediately go to is attached to where you live, but kids can lottery into other schools in other catchment areas. Funding isn't tied to the location; "at-risk" kids get higher funds per pupil, regardless of the school they attend.

Maybe you are just in a different context, idk.

[Anonymous]

my personal favorite recent thread about teachers discussing bad parents was here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1054055.page