For those of you who were so scared of the CRT bogeyman

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Anonymous wrote:Question for you, OP:

- is Kendi a CRT activist, or not?

Simple question, OP. Is he or is he not?


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Who is Kendi?

ES Teacher


Ibram X. Kendi is an author and professor whose work is prominent in how progressives view racism today. He is a leader in the Anti-racism movement, and his work is influential in DEI thought and initiatives. He authored the book "Stamped from the Beginning" which is read in some schools.

According to Kendi there is no such thing as a non-racist. You are either a racist or an anti-racist. There is no middle ground. You are either actively confronting racial inequality or allowing it to exist through action or inaction. You are a racist by doing nothing.

Kendi defines racism as any policy that creates inequitable outcomes between people of different skin colors. For example, magnet school admissions policies are racist when black and Latino/Hispanic students are underrepresented. Kendi would say you are a racist if you do not work to change admission policies that lead to black and Latino/Hispanic underrepresentation. On the other hand, affirmative action in college admissions is anti-racist in that it is designed to remedy past racial discrimination.


One of the many things I can't stand about Kendi is his ludicrously binary thinking. It reminds of of where things were to years ago in the US with respect to foreign policy. Here, let me change a few key words to refresh our memories.

According to George W. Bush there is no such thing as a non-terrorist. You are either a terrorist or an anti-terrorist. There is no middle ground. You are either actively confronting global terrorism or allowing it to exist through action or inaction. You are a terrorist by doing nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:Question for you, OP:

- is Kendi a CRT activist, or not?

Simple question, OP. Is he or is he not?


DP
Who is Kendi?

ES Teacher


Ibram X. Kendi is an author and professor whose work is prominent in how progressives view racism today. He is a leader in the Anti-racism movement, and his work is influential in DEI thought and initiatives. He authored the book "Stamped from the Beginning" which is read in some schools.

According to Kendi there is no such thing as a non-racist. You are either a racist or an anti-racist. There is no middle ground. You are either actively confronting racial inequality or allowing it to exist through action or inaction. You are a racist by doing nothing.

Kendi defines racism as any policy that creates inequitable outcomes between people of different skin colors. For example, magnet school admissions policies are racist when black and Latino/Hispanic students are underrepresented. Kendi would say you are a racist if you do not work to change admission policies that lead to black and Latino/Hispanic underrepresentation. On the other hand, affirmative action in college admissions is anti-racist in that it is designed to remedy past racial discrimination.


One of the many things I can't stand about Kendi is his ludicrously binary thinking. It reminds of of where things were to years ago in the US with respect to foreign policy. Here, let me change a few key words to refresh our memories.

According to George W. Bush there is no such thing as a non-terrorist. You are either a terrorist or an anti-terrorist. There is no middle ground. You are either actively confronting global terrorism or allowing it to exist through action or inaction. You are a terrorist by doing nothing.


Sounds like you haven't read much Kendi. He didn't mean that people are universally one or the other. He looks at it as a series of individual decisions over a lifetime.

“The good news is that racist and antiracist are not fixed identities. We can be a racist one minute and an antiracist the next. What we say about race, what we do about race, in each moment, determines what -- not who -- we are.”

""Racist” ... is not a pejorative. It is not the worst word in the English language; it is not the equivalent of a slur. It is descriptive, and the only way to undo racism is to constantly identify and describe it – and then dismantle it. The attempt to turn this usefully descriptive term into an almost unusable slur is, of course, designed to do the opposite: to freeze us into inaction."

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Anonymous wrote:Question for you, OP:

- is Kendi a CRT activist, or not?

Simple question, OP. Is he or is he not?


DP
Who is Kendi?

ES Teacher


Ibram X. Kendi is an author and professor whose work is prominent in how progressives view racism today. He is a leader in the Anti-racism movement, and his work is influential in DEI thought and initiatives. He authored the book "Stamped from the Beginning" which is read in some schools.

According to Kendi there is no such thing as a non-racist. You are either a racist or an anti-racist. There is no middle ground. You are either actively confronting racial inequality or allowing it to exist through action or inaction. You are a racist by doing nothing.

Kendi defines racism as any policy that creates inequitable outcomes between people of different skin colors. For example, magnet school admissions policies are racist when black and Latino/Hispanic students are underrepresented. Kendi would say you are a racist if you do not work to change admission policies that lead to black and Latino/Hispanic underrepresentation. On the other hand, affirmative action in college admissions is anti-racist in that it is designed to remedy past racial discrimination.


One of the many things I can't stand about Kendi is his ludicrously binary thinking. It reminds of of where things were to years ago in the US with respect to foreign policy. Here, let me change a few key words to refresh our memories.

According to George W. Bush there is no such thing as a non-terrorist. You are either a terrorist or an anti-terrorist. There is no middle ground. You are either actively confronting global terrorism or allowing it to exist through action or inaction. You are a terrorist by doing nothing.


Sounds like you haven't read much Kendi. He didn't mean that people are universally one or the other. He looks at it as a series of individual decisions over a lifetime.

“The good news is that racist and antiracist are not fixed identities. We can be a racist one minute and an antiracist the next. What we say about race, what we do about race, in each moment, determines what -- not who -- we are.”

""Racist” ... is not a pejorative. It is not the worst word in the English language; it is not the equivalent of a slur. It is descriptive, and the only way to undo racism is to constantly identify and describe it – and then dismantle it. The attempt to turn this usefully descriptive term into an almost unusable slur is, of course, designed to do the opposite: to freeze us into inaction."



The problem is that people still use the term 'racist' like a hammer, and it's mostly Progressives that are wielding it. People can and do get canceled for being perceived as racist.

Kendi has been successful in broadening what gets viewed as racism. He has been very unsuccessful at removing the stigma around it. Actions speak louder than words. People will scoff at the idea that "Racist" isn't a pejorative until people stop getting canceled for just saying the wrong thing.
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I went to Catholic school and studies classics in college. I am as liberal as they come. Don’t lose hope in the charter school grads.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Question for you, OP:

- is Kendi a CRT activist, or not?

Simple question, OP. Is he or is he not?


DP
Who is Kendi?

ES Teacher


Ibram X. Kendi is an author and professor whose work is prominent in how progressives view racism today. He is a leader in the Anti-racism movement, and his work is influential in DEI thought and initiatives. He authored the book "Stamped from the Beginning" which is read in some schools.

According to Kendi there is no such thing as a non-racist. You are either a racist or an anti-racist. There is no middle ground. You are either actively confronting racial inequality or allowing it to exist through action or inaction. You are a racist by doing nothing.

Kendi defines racism as any policy that creates inequitable outcomes between people of different skin colors. For example, magnet school admissions policies are racist when black and Latino/Hispanic students are underrepresented. Kendi would say you are a racist if you do not work to change admission policies that lead to black and Latino/Hispanic underrepresentation. On the other hand, affirmative action in college admissions is anti-racist in that it is designed to remedy past racial discrimination.


One of the many things I can't stand about Kendi is his ludicrously binary thinking. It reminds of of where things were to years ago in the US with respect to foreign policy. Here, let me change a few key words to refresh our memories.

According to George W. Bush there is no such thing as a non-terrorist. You are either a terrorist or an anti-terrorist. There is no middle ground. You are either actively confronting global terrorism or allowing it to exist through action or inaction. You are a terrorist by doing nothing.


Sounds like you haven't read much Kendi. He didn't mean that people are universally one or the other. He looks at it as a series of individual decisions over a lifetime.

“The good news is that racist and antiracist are not fixed identities. We can be a racist one minute and an antiracist the next. What we say about race, what we do about race, in each moment, determines what -- not who -- we are.”

""Racist” ... is not a pejorative. It is not the worst word in the English language; it is not the equivalent of a slur. It is descriptive, and the only way to undo racism is to constantly identify and describe it – and then dismantle it. The attempt to turn this usefully descriptive term into an almost unusable slur is, of course, designed to do the opposite: to freeze us into inaction."



The problem is that people still use the term 'racist' like a hammer, and it's mostly Progressives that are wielding it. People can and do get canceled for being perceived as racist.

Kendi has been successful in broadening what gets viewed as racism. He has been very unsuccessful at removing the stigma around it. Actions speak louder than words. People will scoff at the idea that "Racist" isn't a pejorative until people stop getting canceled for just saying the wrong thing.


I haven't noticed anyone being called a racist who wasn't pushing racist policies.
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Programs which teach or promote CRT and/or DEI have divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and resulted in shameful discrimination.

These programs are racist, un-American, and must cease immediately.
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I think hilladale and robin d’Angelo are two signs of the same griftery coin.
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Anonymous wrote:Programs which teach or promote CRT and/or DEI have divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and resulted in shameful discrimination.

These programs are racist, un-American, and must cease immediately.


You are an idiot guided by RWNJ propaganda.

Sit TF down, fool.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/07/09/controversy-teachers-dumbest-colleges/

“Hillsdale College — which Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called “a shining city on a hill” and which hired his activist wife, Ginni Thomas, to help establish a full-time presence in the nation’s capital — has became an important force in that movement under the leadership of Arnn, who has allied himself with former president Donald Trump. The college has helped launch dozens of “classical” charter schools across the country (Hillsdale doesn’t own or operate the schools but trains faculty and staff and shares curriculum) — and, now, at Lee’s invitation, Hillsdale is helping to open at least 50 charter schools in Tennessee. Charter schools are publicly funded but privately operated.”

“The charter schools use a Hillsdale K-12 curriculum that is centered on Western civilization and designed to help “students acquire a mature love for America.” A Hillsdale K-12 civics and U.S. history curriculum released last year extols conservative values, attacks progressive ones and distorts civil rights history, saying, for example: “The civil rights movement was almost immediately turned into programs that ran counter to the lofty ideals of the Founders.” Hillsdale College itself offers a “classical liberal arts core” to its students; the website lists more than 30 authors and thinkers that students will encounter — nearly all of them White men”

While there is still not a single K-12 school that teaches CRT, conservatives are openly attacking education and rewriting history. On one hand, I’m impressed they were able to make Dems out as CRT monsters while they were the ones doing the actual manipulating of history. On the other, I’m so embarrassed for my friends and fellow voters in VA that fell for it.


You are manipulating language to serve your political goals. CRT in the media is shorthand for the tenets that are outgrowths of CRT and you know this. And from my view as a teacher, you absolutely must know that those tenets have infected nearly every lesson plan. So stop with your "no school teaches CRT" and realize that no one is that dumb. Go to teacherspayteachers or any curriculum vendor and see the fruits of the CRT tree.


Omg. Schools acknowledged that racism exists.

Better tear it all down.


I hate the conservative CRT panic, and I also hate the disingenuous responses from the left about CRT. Yes structural racism has perpetuated inequality that persists today. No, "critical race theory" is not specifically taught in K-12 classrooms. However, "CRT" is used as a broader catch-all for "anti-racist" type thinking that has made its way into the instruction of teachers and into classroom curriculum. It is not merely acknowledging racism or teaching that racist things happened in the past. It also includes focusing on things like white privilege (which exists) without also necessarily focusing on the myriad of other variables that form an individual and put things like "white privilege" into context.


Omg. Someone somewhere acknowledged that white people have privilege.

BURN IT ALL DOWN.



There you go again. Just a completely disingenuous response. Yes "white privilege" exists in the sense that -- if all other variables are equal -- the white person is going to have an advantage in the U.S. over the nonwhite person. But, it's also true, that all other variables are never equal. For example, in most situations, an educated black person from a middle class background is going to have a leg up on an uneducated white person from a background of poverty.




How does a failure to adequately teach about socio economic classism make it wrong to teach about racism? There is no logical connection there. It is a false argument to hide the fact that you don't want kids taught about racism in school.


You've got me wrong. Absolutely teach about racism. Teach about the horrid shit that's been done to blacks in this country for centuries. Especially please teach more about how southern whites successfully used terrorism and violence to short circuit democracy in the old Confederacy after Reconstruction. I certainly didn't learn enough about that in the 70s and 80s. And teach them that everything in our history, good and bad, has ripple effects that impact life today.

But don't teach kids that there is no alternative between "racist" and "anti-racist" (a la Kendi). Don't teach kids that they are racist for simply existing in a society where structural racism exists. Don't teach kids that if they disagree with anti-racist teachings, it's merely because they're "uncomfortable" with having their white privilege revealed. Don't teach white kids from poverty born to parents who are uneducated that they are "privileged" merely because they're white -- unless you're going to put in the context of a lot of other intersectional privileges that others may have that they don't have (which, I suppose goes to your question about "how failure to teach about socio-economic classism makes it wrong to teach about racism".) Any individual has a bunch of privileges and lack of privileges that combine to affect their lot in life. Teaching about one and omitting the others creates a distorted lens.


Teaching about “white privilege” isn’t saying anyone is “privileged”.
what does it mean then, if not referring to privilege held by white people for being white?
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Anonymous wrote:I think hilladale and robin d’Angelo are two signs of the same griftery coin.


Didn’t Robin D’Angelo plagiarize most of her published work?
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Why pull up a thread that is years old?
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Anonymous wrote:Why pull up a thread that is years old?


Republicans like to recycle their lies.
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Anonymous wrote:Why pull up a thread that is years old?


Republicans like to recycle their lies.


In this case, I’d actually say it was to show how public opinion has shifted. The pendulum swunghard left, now it’s back to being sane.
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Anonymous wrote:Why pull up a thread that is years old?


Republicans like to recycle their lies.


In this case, I’d actually say it was to show how public opinion has shifted. The pendulum swunghard left, now it’s back to being sane.


People screaming about CRT then - or now - are batsht crazy.
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Anonymous wrote:Programs which teach or promote CRT and/or DEI have divided Americans by race, wasted taxpayer dollars, and resulted in shameful discrimination.

These programs are racist, un-American, and must cease immediately.


I want to understand this perspective. Can you explain, for example, how teaching pilots at the Air Force Academy about the Tuskegee Airmen is un-American?
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