Is Washington DC Segregated By Race or Money

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely money. I can't imagine someone caring if a black family bought a house next door.

the problem with DC is that the poor are mostly black/brown. Whereas poor whites are more rural. It leads to people thinking that all black people are poor or that all poor people are black. Neither are true.

Ugh, that's just more whataboutism. Most of the black/white divide in DC is caused by structural racism.

A lot of the money- white and black- is transplants who have nothing to do with structural racism. If DC is really segregated based on money not race, where is the middle class enclave in upper north west? Other cities segregated based on race tend to have middle class or poor white communities in addition to poor black neighborhoods, but DC is all about money

This. One thing striking about visiting Baltimore is seeing all the white poor people, from the merely low-SES to derelicts and good old fashioned bums. Don't see to much of that in DC because of its peculiar nature.

Again these weird apple to oranges comparisons. Poor white people in Baltimore are not victims of structural racism like BIPOC in DC. White people in Baltimore are just not able to extract the same amount of unearned privilege as they might elsewhere, so that's why they're poor. Until we have an honest dialog about these things nothing will change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely money. I can't imagine someone caring if a black family bought a house next door.

the problem with DC is that the poor are mostly black/brown. Whereas poor whites are more rural. It leads to people thinking that all black people are poor or that all poor people are black. Neither are true.

Ugh, that's just more whataboutism. Most of the black/white divide in DC is caused by structural racism.

A lot of the money- white and black- is transplants who have nothing to do with structural racism. If DC is really segregated based on money not race, where is the middle class enclave in upper north west? Other cities segregated based on race tend to have middle class or poor white communities in addition to poor black neighborhoods, but DC is all about money

This. One thing striking about visiting Baltimore is seeing all the white poor people, from the merely low-SES to derelicts and good old fashioned bums. Don't see to much of that in DC because of its peculiar nature.

Again these weird apple to oranges comparisons. Poor white people in Baltimore are not victims of structural racism like BIPOC in DC. White people in Baltimore are just not able to extract the same amount of unearned privilege as they might elsewhere, so that's why they're poor. Until we have an honest dialog about these things nothing will change.

We are having an honest dialog, and I strongly disagree with you. You seem to think "[U]ntil we have an honest dialog" means "until everyone agrees with me"...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely money. I can't imagine someone caring if a black family bought a house next door.

the problem with DC is that the poor are mostly black/brown. Whereas poor whites are more rural. It leads to people thinking that all black people are poor or that all poor people are black. Neither are true.

Ugh, that's just more whataboutism. Most of the black/white divide in DC is caused by structural racism.

A lot of the money- white and black- is transplants who have nothing to do with structural racism. If DC is really segregated based on money not race, where is the middle class enclave in upper north west? Other cities segregated based on race tend to have middle class or poor white communities in addition to poor black neighborhoods, but DC is all about money

This. One thing striking about visiting Baltimore is seeing all the white poor people, from the merely low-SES to derelicts and good old fashioned bums. Don't see to much of that in DC because of its peculiar nature.

Again these weird apple to oranges comparisons. Poor white people in Baltimore are not victims of structural racism like BIPOC in DC. White people in Baltimore are just not able to extract the same amount of unearned privilege as they might elsewhere, so that's why they're poor. Until we have an honest dialog about these things nothing will change.

I got brain damage from reading this statement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely money. I can't imagine someone caring if a black family bought a house next door.

the problem with DC is that the poor are mostly black/brown. Whereas poor whites are more rural. It leads to people thinking that all black people are poor or that all poor people are black. Neither are true.

Ugh, that's just more whataboutism. Most of the black/white divide in DC is caused by structural racism.

A lot of the money- white and black- is transplants who have nothing to do with structural racism. If DC is really segregated based on money not race, where is the middle class enclave in upper north west? Other cities segregated based on race tend to have middle class or poor white communities in addition to poor black neighborhoods, but DC is all about money

This. One thing striking about visiting Baltimore is seeing all the white poor people, from the merely low-SES to derelicts and good old fashioned bums. Don't see to much of that in DC because of its peculiar nature.

Again these weird apple to oranges comparisons. Poor white people in Baltimore are not victims of structural racism like BIPOC in DC. White people in Baltimore are just not able to extract the same amount of unearned privilege as they might elsewhere, so that's why they're poor. Until we have an honest dialog about these things nothing will change.

We are having an honest dialog, and I strongly disagree with you. You seem to think "[U]ntil we have an honest dialog" means "until everyone agrees with me"...

No, you're actually not engaging in an honest dialog because you won't even say *why* you strongly disagree. You're just having a hissy fit because what you're hearing doesn't fit your narrow mindset. Instead of ranting why don't you listen to other voices and try to learn something for a change. Jeez.

[Anonymous]

DC os segregated by intelligence and moral code.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC is segregated by money, but also by choice. I know many rich black families who are East of the Park in Crestwood, Shepherd Park and Colonial Village. I know black families in Ward 3, but most of my black friends (I am black) don't prefer Georgetown, Cleveland Park, etc.

This. I grew up in DC and the wealthy black people seemed to prefer the read around 16th east of the park. Or further East. Shepherd park. The Gold Coast, it was called.

That may have changed some. I know some wealthy African Americans wotp now.

[Anonymous]

Just because you've seen black people in your neighborhood doesn't mean DC isn't segregated by race. White people seem to think that one black family in their neighborhood = integration. To answer OP's question in an unbiased way you need data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear people say DC is segregated by race, but West DC where all the rich people live has a black population of 8%, west Los Angeles has a black population of 3% and the Upper eastside of NYC has a black population of 2.5%, the only outlier is Buckhead ATL, which has a black population of 16%, DC private schools have 11- 30% black population depending on the school, Atlanta caps out at 5- 10%, NYC is 5-10%, and Los angeles is 2-13%

I just don't understand how DC is segregated by race and not money

47% of DC's population is black; 45% is white. If 47% of DC is black, and only 8% of the people in your neighborhood are black, then yes your neighborhood is segregated by race.

[Anonymous]

I'm black and UMC, and Washington, DC is the best city in the world to be black and rich, unlike other cities where rich blacks and poor blacks race the same racism (even Atlanta), here as long as you have money you will be treated no different than a white person with money

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear people say DC is segregated by race, but West DC where all the rich people live has a black population of 8%, west Los Angeles has a black population of 3% and the Upper eastside of NYC has a black population of 2.5%, the only outlier is Buckhead ATL, which has a black population of 16%, DC private schools have 11- 30% black population depending on the school, Atlanta caps out at 5- 10%, NYC is 5-10%, and Los angeles is 2-13%

I just don't understand how DC is segregated by race and not money

47% of DC's population is black; 45% is white. If 47% of DC is black, and only 8% of the people in your neighborhood are black, then yes your neighborhood is segregated by race.

You are wrong , the percentage of blacks that make 200K or more a year in DC is 6% of their population, (higher than any other city) , so if 8% of the people that live in Ward 3 are black, it is an out-performance based on income

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear people say DC is segregated by race, but West DC where all the rich people live has a black population of 8%, west Los Angeles has a black population of 3% and the Upper eastside of NYC has a black population of 2.5%, the only outlier is Buckhead ATL, which has a black population of 16%, DC private schools have 11- 30% black population depending on the school, Atlanta caps out at 5- 10%, NYC is 5-10%, and Los angeles is 2-13%

I just don't understand how DC is segregated by race and not money

47% of DC's population is black; 45% is white. If 47% of DC is black, and only 8% of the people in your neighborhood are black, then yes your neighborhood is segregated by race.

You are wrong , the percentage of blacks that make 200K or more a year in DC is 6% of their population, (higher than any other city) , so if 8% of the people that live in Ward 3 are black, it is an out-performance based on income

slight correction, 12% of all people that make 200k in DC are black, and 10% of the black population make over 200k a year

https://statisticalatlas.com/metro-area/District-of-Columbia/Washington/Household-Income

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear people say DC is segregated by race, but West DC where all the rich people live has a black population of 8%, west Los Angeles has a black population of 3% and the Upper eastside of NYC has a black population of 2.5%, the only outlier is Buckhead ATL, which has a black population of 16%, DC private schools have 11- 30% black population depending on the school, Atlanta caps out at 5- 10%, NYC is 5-10%, and Los angeles is 2-13%

I just don't understand how DC is segregated by race and not money

47% of DC's population is black; 45% is white. If 47% of DC is black, and only 8% of the people in your neighborhood are black, then yes your neighborhood is segregated by race.

You are wrong , the percentage of blacks that make 200K or more a year in DC is 6% of their population, (higher than any other city) , so if 8% of the people that live in Ward 3 are black, it is an out-performance based on income

I think you're assuming that only rich people should be able to live in Ward 3, which is, of course, ridiculous. We should have affordable housing in all wards, but ward 3 fights it. Which seems to me like structural racism, because they're literally trying to keep poor black and hispanic people out of their neighborhoods and schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear people say DC is segregated by race, but West DC where all the rich people live has a black population of 8%, west Los Angeles has a black population of 3% and the Upper eastside of NYC has a black population of 2.5%, the only outlier is Buckhead ATL, which has a black population of 16%, DC private schools have 11- 30% black population depending on the school, Atlanta caps out at 5- 10%, NYC is 5-10%, and Los angeles is 2-13%

I just don't understand how DC is segregated by race and not money

47% of DC's population is black; 45% is white. If 47% of DC is black, and only 8% of the people in your neighborhood are black, then yes your neighborhood is segregated by race.

You are wrong , the percentage of blacks that make 200K or more a year in DC is 6% of their population, (higher than any other city) , so if 8% of the people that live in Ward 3 are black, it is an out-performance based on income

I think you're assuming that only rich people should be able to live in Ward 3, which is, of course, ridiculous. We should have affordable housing in all wards, but ward 3 fights it. Which seems to me like structural racism, because they're literally trying to keep poor black and hispanic people out of their neighborhoods and schools.

Guess what, the world isn't fair, but poor blacks can just make more money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and UMC, and Washington, DC is the best city in the world to be black and rich, unlike other cities where rich blacks and poor blacks race the same racism (even Atlanta), here as long as you have money you will be treated no different than a white person with money

This is true up to a limit. There is very limited racism that supersedes class privilege when it’s about government institutions and public accommodation. Cops don’t target you. You are not treated like a thief when shopping. You are treated the same as any other client at a restaurant.

However, a lot of the social institutions are very much closed to Black people and are still very much racist. I would be curious if the Chevy Chase or Columbia Country Clubs have any Black members right now. You will notice that Obama preferred to join Woodmont and even then it was viciously opposed.

And a lot of the liberal politics is centered around denying privileges to an ascendant Black middle and upper middle class as a denial of historical white privilege/racism. Which means that UMC Black folk cannot win. Think you’ve earned that SFH on a quiet street in a low crime area? Sorry, that’s racist now. However, the real white power centers of privilege remain unchallenged. No one’s talking about fundamentally changing the character of Foxhall or Spring Valley. Just denying the affluent Black folk their pockets of success. Unless you live in Shepherd Park/Colonial Village.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm black and UMC, and Washington, DC is the best city in the world to be black and rich, unlike other cities where rich blacks and poor blacks race the same racism (even Atlanta), here as long as you have money you will be treated no different than a white person with money

This is true up to a limit. There is very limited racism that supersedes class privilege when it’s about government institutions and public accommodation. Cops don’t target you. You are not treated like a thief when shopping. You are treated the same as any other client at a restaurant.

However, a lot of the social institutions are very much closed to Black people and are still very much racist. I would be curious if the Chevy Chase or Columbia Country Clubs have any Black members right now. You will notice that Obama preferred to join Woodmont and even then it was viciously opposed.

And a lot of the liberal politics is centered around denying privileges to an ascendant Black middle and upper middle class as a denial of historical white privilege/racism. Which means that UMC Black folk cannot win. Think you’ve earned that SFH on a quiet street in a low crime area? Sorry, that’s racist now. However, the real white power centers of privilege remain unchallenged. No one’s talking about fundamentally changing the character of Foxhall or Spring Valley. Just denying the affluent Black folk their pockets of success. Unless you live in Shepherd Park/Colonial Village. [/quote


Thank you for giving this person a wake-up call, people see black numbers in rich white neighborhoods over 2% and see high private school numbers of blacks and think, OMG "RAcism is OvEr" but the question is are you socially integrated with white society