Top Choice, but Spring Start Freshman

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Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

Yes, it is to hide the lower stats so they don’t have to report those stats with other admitted students.

Take it! In the covid era its about space on campus. My DD with a 1580 SAT and a 3.9UW GPA from top VA public was a spring admit. Her stats were not lower. I'd highly recommend doing this if the school is your DD's top choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

You are right and wrong. They intentionally choose some applicants to place in the spring start programs. However, it also does help them balance their open beds in dorms during spring semester.

It is 100% so they don't have to include the students' stats in their reported numbers for the incoming first years. I would guess most of them are full-pay as well. But so what? If the kids loves that school, do it.

You’re so wrong but that doesn’t keep you from piping up to show your ignorance. You must be salty that your kid needs financial aid and an acceptance to go to their top choice.

Actually you are wrong. This spring access practice did start so they schools didn’t have to report low stat kids. No matter the insults you hurl -that is common knowledge

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

You are right and wrong. They intentionally choose some applicants to place in the spring start programs. However, it also does help them balance their open beds in dorms during spring semester.

It is 100% so they don't have to include the students' stats in their reported numbers for the incoming first years. I would guess most of them are full-pay as well. But so what? If the kids loves that school, do it.

You’re so wrong but that doesn’t keep you from piping up to show your ignorance. You must be salty that your kid needs financial aid and an acceptance to go to their top choice.

Actually you are wrong. This spring access practice did start so they schools didn’t have to report low stat kids. No matter the insults you hurl -that is common knowledge

Evidence?

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Anonymous wrote:To add, it is kind of easy to still graduate on-time in most majors if you start in the spring. An AP credit there, a summer class, a class in the fall prior to entry, an extra class one semester, an internship for credit—-all ways to do that.

My DDs roommate attended Va Tech the first semester and then enrolled in the spring admit school in January.

That is probably unusual. Why go all the way to a 4-year school like VT when you only intend to go to it for one semester?

“All the way?”
Much more fun to have one college semester with lots of friends that being at home getting credits from community college. Obviously.

Do tell me how it would be more fun to move all your stuff to a college you know you’re only spending one semester at, and to make friends only to leave them a semester later. Not to mention joining extracurriculars knowing you’re about to leave.

My kid knows a ton of VT students. And how much stuff does she need for one semester? And football takes care of lots of fall activity. But kudos to you if your kid would rather live in your basement and commute to cc while all her friends are away at college. It does save money.

Then why doesn’t she stay at VT?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

You are right and wrong. They intentionally choose some applicants to place in the spring start programs. However, it also does help them balance their open beds in dorms during spring semester.

It is 100% so they don't have to include the students' stats in their reported numbers for the incoming first years. I would guess most of them are full-pay as well. But so what? If the kids loves that school, do it.

You’re so wrong but that doesn’t keep you from piping up to show your ignorance. You must be salty that your kid needs financial aid and an acceptance to go to their top choice.

Actually you are wrong. This spring access practice did start so they schools didn’t have to report low stat kids. No matter the insults you hurl -that is common knowledge

No it's done to maximize profits. Lots of students leave campus to study abroad in the spring semester. Spring admits fill those empty dorm beds. And spring admits are full pay. As pp just above mentioned, her high stat kid was a spring admit - and would not have brought down the school's stats. Besides, rarely is anything a "100%" reason, as you ignorantly insist, and as adults understand.

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The reason for spring admit is not to defer the low stat kids. It’s to accept the underprivileged urm’s during the fall semester, their lower grades made up for by high stat scholarship kids during the fall, and the whole balance sheet made to work by the money that the full pay spring admits bring. That’s the full picture. The fall kids are the highest and lowest. The spring are the 50-75% with cash.

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Anonymous wrote:To add, it is kind of easy to still graduate on-time in most majors if you start in the spring. An AP credit there, a summer class, a class in the fall prior to entry, an extra class one semester, an internship for credit—-all ways to do that.

My DDs roommate attended Va Tech the first semester and then enrolled in the spring admit school in January.

That is probably unusual. Why go all the way to a 4-year school like VT when you only intend to go to it for one semester?

“All the way?”
Much more fun to have one college semester with lots of friends that being at home getting credits from community college. Obviously.

Do tell me how it would be more fun to move all your stuff to a college you know you’re only spending one semester at, and to make friends only to leave them a semester later. Not to mention joining extracurriculars knowing you’re about to leave.

My kid knows a ton of VT students. And how much stuff does she need for one semester? And football takes care of lots of fall activity. But kudos to you if your kid would rather live in your basement and commute to cc while all her friends are away at college. It does save money.

Then why doesn’t she stay at VT?

She wants to go to her top choice school that is better for her all around. Why are you so hurt by this topic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

Yes, it is to hide the lower stats so they don’t have to report those stats with other admitted students.

Take it! In the covid era its about space on campus. My DD with a 1580 SAT and a 3.9UW GPA from top VA public was a spring admit. Her stats were not lower. I'd highly recommend doing this if the school is your DD's top choice.

Congrats to your DD. Good evidence that even high stat kids can be spring admits. Remarkable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

You are right and wrong. They intentionally choose some applicants to place in the spring start programs. However, it also does help them balance their open beds in dorms during spring semester.

It is 100% so they don't have to include the students' stats in their reported numbers for the incoming first years. I would guess most of them are full-pay as well. But so what? If the kids loves that school, do it.

You’re so wrong but that doesn’t keep you from piping up to show your ignorance. You must be salty that your kid needs financial aid and an acceptance to go to their top choice.

Actually you are wrong. This spring access practice did start so they schools didn’t have to report low stat kids. No matter the insults you hurl -that is common knowledge

So say there's a university that wants 5000 students in its freshman class. And say they admit 4800 with an average SAT of 1300 in the fall and defer 200 with an average SAT of 1100 to the spring. Those 200 students would bring the average SAT down to 1292 if they were included in the Common Data Set info. So the cost to the college is 8 points if they admit them in the fall. But the cost of not admitting them in the fall is conservatively $5000 for a $50K/year school, so they're losing $1 million in revenue to gain 8 points on their SAT average, which is only 5% of the USNWR calculation.

Do you really believe this is something colleges are doing? It makes no sense.

Another point to consider is this: If colleges are starting students in the spring in order to avoid having them counted in the data, why do they still do it at schools where test scores are optional? This was pretty much every school in the country last year, and will continue to be true for many schools for the foreseeable future. Why would they need to hide scores of those who don't need to (and thus probably don't) report them anyway?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

You are right and wrong. They intentionally choose some applicants to place in the spring start programs. However, it also does help them balance their open beds in dorms during spring semester.

It is 100% so they don't have to include the students' stats in their reported numbers for the incoming first years. I would guess most of them are full-pay as well. But so what? If the kids loves that school, do it.

You’re so wrong but that doesn’t keep you from piping up to show your ignorance. You must be salty that your kid needs financial aid and an acceptance to go to their top choice.

Actually you are wrong. This spring access practice did start so they schools didn’t have to report low stat kids. No matter the insults you hurl -that is common knowledge

So say there's a university that wants 5000 students in its freshman class. And say they admit 4800 with an average SAT of 1300 in the fall and defer 200 with an average SAT of 1100 to the spring. Those 200 students would bring the average SAT down to 1292 if they were included in the Common Data Set info. So the cost to the college is 8 points if they admit them in the fall. But the cost of not admitting them in the fall is conservatively $5000 for a $50K/year school, so they're losing $1 million in revenue to gain 8 points on their SAT average, which is only 5% of the USNWR calculation.

Do you really believe this is something colleges are doing? It makes no sense.

Another point to consider is this: If colleges are starting students in the spring in order to avoid having them counted in the data, why do they still do it at schools where test scores are optional? This was pretty much every school in the country last year, and will continue to be true for many schools for the foreseeable future. Why would they need to hide scores of those who don't need to (and thus probably don't) report them anyway?

That pp is wrong and stupidly insisting that just ONE reason exists why schools fill their dorm rooms in the spring - with very committed and full pay students! such a mystery!

People who cannot afford the spring admit option love to malign it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

You are right and wrong. They intentionally choose some applicants to place in the spring start programs. However, it also does help them balance their open beds in dorms during spring semester.

It is 100% so they don't have to include the students' stats in their reported numbers for the incoming first years. I would guess most of them are full-pay as well. But so what? If the kids loves that school, do it.

You’re so wrong but that doesn’t keep you from piping up to show your ignorance. You must be salty that your kid needs financial aid and an acceptance to go to their top choice.

Actually you are wrong. This spring access practice did start so they schools didn’t have to report low stat kids. No matter the insults you hurl -that is common knowledge

Evidence?

Like in a testube? That kind of evidence? It's common knowledge. But if a kid gets in, they got in. That's all that matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take it! Your child has been admitted to this program to hide their stats so if not in this program, not admitted at all. Because of this smoke and mirrors approach in admissions, more of the colleges are offering it and strengthening their programs.

More colleges are doing this, but it's not to hide anything. It's just practical to have people waiting to take the place of those they know will leave after the first semester for whatever reason, and they're pretty good at predicting how many students that will be each year. They lose loads of money otherwise.

You are right and wrong. They intentionally choose some applicants to place in the spring start programs. However, it also does help them balance their open beds in dorms during spring semester.

It is 100% so they don't have to include the students' stats in their reported numbers for the incoming first years. I would guess most of them are full-pay as well. But so what? If the kids loves that school, do it.

You’re so wrong but that doesn’t keep you from piping up to show your ignorance. You must be salty that your kid needs financial aid and an acceptance to go to their top choice.

Actually you are wrong. This spring access practice did start so they schools didn’t have to report low stat kids. No matter the insults you hurl -that is common knowledge

Evidence?

Like in a testube? That kind of evidence? It's common knowledge. But if a kid gets in, they got in. That's all that matters.

a point of agreement

[Anonymous]

We are doing it! My son, rather… he’s super excited. Will move to area and take classes to transfer credits in but will start meeting people. Rush is spring so he will do that too to help on social front. He’s very happy to have gotten in and he will make it work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are doing it! My son, rather… he’s super excited. Will move to area and take classes to transfer credits in but will start meeting people. Rush is spring so he will do that too to help on social front. He’s very happy to have gotten in and he will make it work.

With this attitude, the school and kid made great choices. As with my DD, sure, I'd have preferred a fall admission and it just did not work out that way. But she has never questioned her decision for one second. She felt she had the entire college experience and his a very happy and well-employed alum.
Congrats to your DS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To add, it is kind of easy to still graduate on-time in most majors if you start in the spring. An AP credit there, a summer class, a class in the fall prior to entry, an extra class one semester, an internship for credit—-all ways to do that.

My DDs roommate attended Va Tech the first semester and then enrolled in the spring admit school in January.

That is probably unusual. Why go all the way to a 4-year school like VT when you only intend to go to it for one semester?

My DS is actually considering this option. Was admitted to a school that was a "maybe," and thinking about trying that school out with the option of changing schools in the spring. But if he loves it, then staying. Has anyone done this path?