Landon is woke?

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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


This is an oxymoron


Why? This is the case in many liberal universities. My DC who had stats strong enough to be considered for many ivies decided not to apply because he didn't want to be "politically correct" in everything he wrote, said.


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Can you give me an example of “political correctness” that is unacceptable to you? It’s been my experience that when people complain about “political correctness” it’s usually just about not wanting to extend someone respect or courtesy, even when you happily extend the same respect or courtesy to others.

Not being able to argue or protest against abortion is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression. Being asked to use specific pronouns is not oppression. Not being allowed to make a good faith argument that non-binary genders are a social construct is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression.

The op-ed OP linked only gives one example, which is a kid who left the water polo team rather than cover up his upper thigh MAGA tattoo. It’s an interesting question and I think I come down on the side of the kid, that he should have been allowed to play with his tattoo. But if you want me to believe that would be the “conservative” position if a Texas football player had a “trans rights” tattoo…

Certainly taking the tattoo story and wrapping it in a bunch of whining and hysterics, as this kid did, suggests he’s not interested in arguing about principles and values at all. He just wants to make memes for the MAGAverse. But that’s not a good way to make friends and influence people IRL.


PP here. My DC is pro-life. He spent a lot of time on the campus of a very liberal university and felt he couldn't express his opinions. He is now at a Catholic university. He feels now he can express himself without being shunned and enjoys hearing all sides of a debate vs. being in an echo chamber.


Please tell your DC that when I was a single parent graduate student, the Catholic pro life group babysat for me when I had night classes and I was able to complete my education and strengthen my family. It was one of the kindest things anyone has ever done for me, and I am forever grateful. I'm glad your child has found a place to be part of a full, rather than one sided conversation. This matters.


No one in their right mind would disparage the support offered you in your story, but that by no means makes a Catholic school a "full" conversation around abortion. Thanks for sharing an anecdote with absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand!


You are correct - I was responding to PP, which is tied to the topic of this thread. Are there some schools that are so woke they effectively squelch free speech. Pp said at her son's new school they are able to air all sides of debate. I have no reason to disbelieve that and I'm happy for PPs kid. It is funny to me that you have such blinders on you think you can't get a great education at a school like Georgetown or Notre Dame . Plus, from my experience, the community was kind and giving. Win-win!


You guys just can’t stop with the straw men.
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


This is an oxymoron


Why? This is the case in many liberal universities. My DC who had stats strong enough to be considered for many ivies decided not to apply because he didn't want to be "politically correct" in everything he wrote, said.


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Can you give me an example of “political correctness” that is unacceptable to you? It’s been my experience that when people complain about “political correctness” it’s usually just about not wanting to extend someone respect or courtesy, even when you happily extend the same respect or courtesy to others.

Not being able to argue or protest against abortion is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression. Being asked to use specific pronouns is not oppression. Not being allowed to make a good faith argument that non-binary genders are a social construct is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression.

The op-ed OP linked only gives one example, which is a kid who left the water polo team rather than cover up his upper thigh MAGA tattoo. It’s an interesting question and I think I come down on the side of the kid, that he should have been allowed to play with his tattoo. But if you want me to believe that would be the “conservative” position if a Texas football player had a “trans rights” tattoo…

Certainly taking the tattoo story and wrapping it in a bunch of whining and hysterics, as this kid did, suggests he’s not interested in arguing about principles and values at all. He just wants to make memes for the MAGAverse. But that’s not a good way to make friends and influence people IRL.


PP here. My DC is pro-life. He spent a lot of time on the campus of a very liberal university and felt he couldn't express his opinions. He is now at a Catholic university. He feels now he can express himself without being shunned and enjoys hearing all sides of a debate vs. being in an echo chamber.


Please tell your DC that when I was a single parent graduate student, the Catholic pro life group babysat for me when I had night classes and I was able to complete my education and strengthen my family. It was one of the kindest things anyone has ever done for me, and I am forever grateful. I'm glad your child has found a place to be part of a full, rather than one sided conversation. This matters.


No one in their right mind would disparage the support offered you in your story, but that by no means makes a Catholic school a "full" conversation around abortion. Thanks for sharing an anecdote with absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand!


You are correct - I was responding to PP, which is tied to the topic of this thread. Are there some schools that are so woke they effectively squelch free speech. Pp said at her son's new school they are able to air all sides of debate. I have no reason to disbelieve that and I'm happy for PPs kid. It is funny to me that you have such blinders on you think you can't get a great education at a school like Georgetown or Notre Dame . Plus, from my experience, the community was kind and giving. Win-win!


The critic didn't say you couldn't get a good education at a Catholic school and didn't name any schools. Stop arguing with an imaginary opponent.
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


This is an oxymoron


Why? This is the case in many liberal universities. My DC who had stats strong enough to be considered for many ivies decided not to apply because he didn't want to be "politically correct" in everything he wrote, said.


Can you give me an example of “political correctness” that is unacceptable to you? It’s been my experience that when people complain about “political correctness” it’s usually just about not wanting to extend someone respect or courtesy, even when you happily extend the same respect or courtesy to others.

Not being able to argue or protest against abortion is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression. Being asked to use specific pronouns is not oppression. Not being allowed to make a good faith argument that non-binary genders are a social construct is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression.

The op-ed OP linked only gives one example, which is a kid who left the water polo team rather than cover up his upper thigh MAGA tattoo. It’s an interesting question and I think I come down on the side of the kid, that he should have been allowed to play with his tattoo. But if you want me to believe that would be the “conservative” position if a Texas football player had a “trans rights” tattoo…

Certainly taking the tattoo story and wrapping it in a bunch of whining and hysterics, as this kid did, suggests he’s not interested in arguing about principles and values at all. He just wants to make memes for the MAGAverse. But that’s not a good way to make friends and influence people IRL.


Sorry I just want to clarify that I don’t disagree with the water polo players that a MAGA tattoo is offensive and an aggression. And I think it’s perfectly reasonable for those players to raise that with their coach and this kid. I’m not saying he doesn’t have to defend the tattoo or that the team wouldn’t have to wrestle with how to be a team when one player has that tattoo. Just as I think the school probably shouldn’t be in the business of removing kids from teams because of tattoos, I would certainly support the other players protesting. It’s also possible that the coach just didn’t want the headache and that the policy is that the coach picks the roster, in which case the school’s hands would be tied. Conservatives are all about “at will” employment, right?

Political opinion is not a protected class so I don’t think he would have a legal leg to stand on but I still think they shouldn’t have kicked him off the team. You don’t want to be in the position of determining the offensiveness of tattoos.

The other question would be what the school dress code says about visible tattoos and how they interpreted that to apply to uniforms. If they have a visible tattoo rule that they feel applied, that would be firmer ground.

To be clear I would oppose the visible tattoo rule too. I’m pretty liberal.

No more offensive than a confederate flag.
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


This is an oxymoron


Why? This is the case in many liberal universities. My DC who had stats strong enough to be considered for many ivies decided not to apply because he didn't want to be "politically correct" in everything he wrote, said.


Can you give me an example of “political correctness” that is unacceptable to you? It’s been my experience that when people complain about “political correctness” it’s usually just about not wanting to extend someone respect or courtesy, even when you happily extend the same respect or courtesy to others.

Not being able to argue or protest against abortion is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression. Being asked to use specific pronouns is not oppression. Not being allowed to make a good faith argument that non-binary genders are a social construct is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression.

The op-ed OP linked only gives one example, which is a kid who left the water polo team rather than cover up his upper thigh MAGA tattoo. It’s an interesting question and I think I come down on the side of the kid, that he should have been allowed to play with his tattoo. But if you want me to believe that would be the “conservative” position if a Texas football player had a “trans rights” tattoo…

Certainly taking the tattoo story and wrapping it in a bunch of whining and hysterics, as this kid did, suggests he’s not interested in arguing about principles and values at all. He just wants to make memes for the MAGAverse. But that’s not a good way to make friends and influence people IRL.


Sorry I just want to clarify that I don’t disagree with the water polo players that a MAGA tattoo is offensive and an aggression. And I think it’s perfectly reasonable for those players to raise that with their coach and this kid. I’m not saying he doesn’t have to defend the tattoo or that the team wouldn’t have to wrestle with how to be a team when one player has that tattoo. Just as I think the school probably shouldn’t be in the business of removing kids from teams because of tattoos, I would certainly support the other players protesting. It’s also possible that the coach just didn’t want the headache and that the policy is that the coach picks the roster, in which case the school’s hands would be tied. Conservatives are all about “at will” employment, right?

Political opinion is not a protected class so I don’t think he would have a legal leg to stand on but I still think they shouldn’t have kicked him off the team. You don’t want to be in the position of determining the offensiveness of tattoos.

The other question would be what the school dress code says about visible tattoos and how they interpreted that to apply to uniforms. If they have a visible tattoo rule that they feel applied, that would be firmer ground.

To be clear I would oppose the visible tattoo rule too. I’m pretty liberal.

No more offensive than a confederate flag.


I can't tell if this is meant to be biting humor or serious.
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


This is an oxymoron


Why? This is the case in many liberal universities. My DC who had stats strong enough to be considered for many ivies decided not to apply because he didn't want to be "politically correct" in everything he wrote, said.


Can you give me an example of “political correctness” that is unacceptable to you? It’s been my experience that when people complain about “political correctness” it’s usually just about not wanting to extend someone respect or courtesy, even when you happily extend the same respect or courtesy to others.

Not being able to argue or protest against abortion is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression. Being asked to use specific pronouns is not oppression. Not being allowed to make a good faith argument that non-binary genders are a social construct is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression.

The op-ed OP linked only gives one example, which is a kid who left the water polo team rather than cover up his upper thigh MAGA tattoo. It’s an interesting question and I think I come down on the side of the kid, that he should have been allowed to play with his tattoo. But if you want me to believe that would be the “conservative” position if a Texas football player had a “trans rights” tattoo…

Certainly taking the tattoo story and wrapping it in a bunch of whining and hysterics, as this kid did, suggests he’s not interested in arguing about principles and values at all. He just wants to make memes for the MAGAverse. But that’s not a good way to make friends and influence people IRL.


Sorry I just want to clarify that I don’t disagree with the water polo players that a MAGA tattoo is offensive and an aggression. And I think it’s perfectly reasonable for those players to raise that with their coach and this kid. I’m not saying he doesn’t have to defend the tattoo or that the team wouldn’t have to wrestle with how to be a team when one player has that tattoo. Just as I think the school probably shouldn’t be in the business of removing kids from teams because of tattoos, I would certainly support the other players protesting. It’s also possible that the coach just didn’t want the headache and that the policy is that the coach picks the roster, in which case the school’s hands would be tied. Conservatives are all about “at will” employment, right?

Political opinion is not a protected class so I don’t think he would have a legal leg to stand on but I still think they shouldn’t have kicked him off the team. You don’t want to be in the position of determining the offensiveness of tattoos.

The other question would be what the school dress code says about visible tattoos and how they interpreted that to apply to uniforms. If they have a visible tattoo rule that they feel applied, that would be firmer ground.

To be clear I would oppose the visible tattoo rule too. I’m pretty liberal.

No more offensive than a confederate flag.


I can't tell if this is meant to be biting humor or serious.


I don’t know but it’s a great question! Is a MAGA tattoo okay, but a Confederate flag is not? If so, why? How does a school write and implement a fair policy about this? Is a tattoo the same as a t-shirt? Can a dress code address what’s on your skin the same as it can what’s on your clothing? If a school can adjudicate cleavage, does that make tattoos fair game? These are all great questions but the OP’s op-Ed addresses none of them. The tattoo incident is a really interesting case, it’s just not explored at all by this whiny kid.
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


Well for one thing, this was not written by a high school student. Or Dad had did some heavy editing.



Why do you say that? It wasn't particularly well written...fine, but not earth shattering. Why don't you think it didn't come from a high school student?
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What does "woke" even mean?
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This is easy. If there is a policy about no tattoos, the student has nothing to argue about. If there is no such rule, the team and school was in the wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


This is an oxymoron


Why? This is the case in many liberal universities. My DC who had stats strong enough to be considered for many ivies decided not to apply because he didn't want to be "politically correct" in everything he wrote, said.


Can you give me an example of “political correctness” that is unacceptable to you? It’s been my experience that when people complain about “political correctness” it’s usually just about not wanting to extend someone respect or courtesy, even when you happily extend the same respect or courtesy to others.

Not being able to argue or protest against abortion is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression. Being asked to use specific pronouns is not oppression. Not being allowed to make a good faith argument that non-binary genders are a social construct is oppression. Your friends being turned off by you doing so is not oppression.

The op-ed OP linked only gives one example, which is a kid who left the water polo team rather than cover up his upper thigh MAGA tattoo. It’s an interesting question and I think I come down on the side of the kid, that he should have been allowed to play with his tattoo. But if you want me to believe that would be the “conservative” position if a Texas football player had a “trans rights” tattoo…

Certainly taking the tattoo story and wrapping it in a bunch of whining and hysterics, as this kid did, suggests he’s not interested in arguing about principles and values at all. He just wants to make memes for the MAGAverse. But that’s not a good way to make friends and influence people IRL.


PP here. My DC is pro-life. He spent a lot of time on the campus of a very liberal university and felt he couldn't express his opinions. He is now at a Catholic university. He feels now he can express himself without being shunned and enjoys hearing all sides of a debate vs. being in an echo chamber.


This is what I don't get about the whole "respect both sides" nonsense. There is no reason why I should respect someone who so fundamentally does not respect the autonomy and personhood of women, the importance of women's health, and who believes it's okay to force a person to carry a pregnancy and give birth, potentially risking her life. Why should someone feel comfortable expressing such an evil opinion?



This is what I don't get about the whole "respect both sides" nonsense. Thre is no reason why I should respect someone who so fundamentally does not respect human life, and is so cavalier as to believe that it can be disposed of merely at someone's whim. If it is not the responsibility of the government to protect the least vulnerable among is, we are lost as a society. Why should someone feel comfortable expressing such an evil opinion?

(See how that works?)
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


The article is accurate.
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


The article is accurate.

About what?
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Anonymous wrote:What does "woke" even mean?


If you express a conservative opinion and your friend disagrees = woke

Conservatives can’t handle being in the minority it hurts their ity bitty feelings
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There are so many Conservatives at Landon...not sure how this is accurate.

Most of the Republicans I speak to said there kids generally love the school.
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Anonymous wrote:According to one anonymous student, Landon is oppressively liberal: https://www.mcgop.com/a_conservative_at_woke_left_landon.

What are experiences of people on these boards?


The article is accurate.

About what?


Translation

A student write a paper in support of a conservative view that they can’t back with facts/history/science.

They get an appropriate grade because their stand in the paper is ridiculous and lacks intelligent thought. It’s not an actual conservative view because they can’t discern between conservative and propaganda.

They cry conservative tears.
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