Look, abortion is contentious. I think forcing women to gestate is violence and inconsistent with any ethical or moral framework to which I adhere. Other people think abortion is homicide. I appreciate that those positions may be incompatible with friendship. If I were at a Catholic University, and I wanted to make pro-choice arguments, I would expect to be allowed to make them (assuming federal funding). I would also expect some people to shun me. I certainly appreciate your kid wanting to be around more people who agree with him but that’s simply not the same thing as oppression. That’s just the social consequences of contentious political issues. Freedom is being allowed to express your opinion without interference from the Government. It doesn’t mean your friends can’t be mad at you no matter what you say. |
This is what I don't get about the whole "respect both sides" nonsense. There is no reason why I should respect someone who so fundamentally does not respect the autonomy and personhood of women, the importance of women's health, and who believes it's okay to force a person to carry a pregnancy and give birth, potentially risking her life. Why should someone feel comfortable expressing such an evil opinion? |
Also to be honest I can’t believe you had the balls to hold up the Catholic Church as the standard for debate and not shunning people. Really impressive. |
+1 |
So, he ended up going to a place that is an echo chamber and only supports his side. Interesting… |
I think, based upon the quality of writing (ranting) in the article, that Landon's bigger problem is its writing curriculum, not wokeness. |
Please tell your DC that when I was a single parent graduate student, the Catholic pro life group babysat for me when I had night classes and I was able to complete my education and strengthen my family. It was one of the kindest things anyone has ever done for me, and I am forever grateful. I'm glad your child has found a place to be part of a full, rather than one sided conversation. This matters. |
No one in their right mind would disparage the support offered you in your story, but that by no means makes a Catholic school a "full" conversation around abortion. Thanks for sharing an anecdote with absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand! |
Interesting that someone discussing feeling that are not woke is a rant. That says it all doesn’t it? |
Conservative here. The article is objectively a mostly meritless rant. A focused discussion on the tattoo issue could have some merit. |
Actually the most “ranting” part is describing the supposedly woke people. It’s a clear straw man. |
| Poorly written article by a snowflake. |
+1, I’m the liberal PP who said I would probably want the school to stay out of determining tattoo offensiveness. But I agree it’s a really interesting case and I would love to know the details and the various arguments. I’m a GDS alum, for the record. This op-ed would get a bad grade there because it’s poor rhetoric, not because it’s “wrong” on the tattoo issue. |
LOL! OP- you + this poster started off my work week with a good hearty chuckle. OP- you made me laugh because Landon is the opposite of "woke"+ please stop using that tired, trite word " woke". Please get a dictionary + turn off Faux Foxy News. And, I roared at the poster whose kid did not apply to an Ivy... because -- "blah, blah, blah". That is the lamest excuse for being an Ivy reject I have heard. Hopefully, he isnt telling his friends that. |
You are correct - I was responding to PP, which is tied to the topic of this thread. Are there some schools that are so woke they effectively squelch free speech. Pp said at her son's new school they are able to air all sides of debate. I have no reason to disbelieve that and I'm happy for PPs kid. It is funny to me that you have such blinders on you think you can't get a great education at a school like Georgetown or Notre Dame . Plus, from my experience, the community was kind and giving. Win-win! |