Lengthy delays in grading

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Yes, she is complaining. Most of them were pretty much finished - just never turned in. There are still a few that need more work, but they are working with the teacher to “prioritize” the last few to see which are the most important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When are grades due?

April 5

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Um, the kid knows all about the missing assignments because she didn't hand them in! Stop treating students like infants.

[Anonymous]

That’s so irritating. Sorry, OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Um, the kid knows all about the missing assignments because she didn't hand them in! Stop treating students like infants.

I usually see any missing assignments immediately on ParentVue and get on my kid to turn it in. It's their responsibility. Period.

[Anonymous]

Not OP or PP but I do have a problem with the yo-yo grading especially in MS and HS. Its also not good in ES because there is where students start to build a relationship with work and feedback.

For ES school its standards based grading. I have no problem with this. Teachers should associate the assignments with particular standards and then parents can monitor(along with students as they age) how they are doing in terms of meeting standards and generally mastering content.

Same is true for MS and HS. Assignments shouldn’t be given for no reason. Just like ES, they should be aligned to standards that help ensure mastery of content and preparation for next subjects. When teacher’s are give students assignments, there is an expectation of timely feedback in some form so that students (and parents) can assess performance and mastery of content and skills. This feedback can be given in the form of grades, written or oral remarks on the specific assignment. Overall students should ‘t have to guess how they’re doing. They shouldn’t be finding out end of term that something is wrong when they have no opportunity to remedy a problem. If that’s not going to be the case, then classes should be Pass/Fail(I’ll even through in High Pass).

This system with grades yo-yoing all over the place at the end of term is ridiculous. It doesn’t prepare kids for rigorous standards of learning and work, decreases motivation, and is both unfair and inequitable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Um, the kid knows all about the missing assignments because she didn't hand them in! Stop treating students like infants.

I usually see any missing assignments immediately on ParentVue and get on my kid to turn it in. It's their responsibility. Period.

Right, but in our case there were no missing assignment in ParentVue because there were only four assignments listed until Friday when suddenly there were over 20.

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Um, the kid knows all about the missing assignments because she didn't hand them in! Stop treating students like infants.

I usually see any missing assignments immediately on ParentVue and get on my kid to turn it in. It's their responsibility. Period.

Right, but in our case there were no missing assignment in ParentVue because there were only four assignments listed until Friday when suddenly there were over 20.

OK, that's really not good. The teacher needs to stay on top of things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Um, the kid knows all about the missing assignments because she didn't hand them in! Stop treating students like infants.

I usually see any missing assignments immediately on ParentVue and get on my kid to turn it in. It's their responsibility. Period.

Right, but in our case there were no missing assignment in ParentVue because there were only four assignments listed until Friday when suddenly there were over 20.

We’ve experienced this as well as the situation where all the assignments can be seen in ParentVue but many remain ungraded for weeks or until the end. It’s ridiculous. It’s definitely not all teachers but also not just one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Um, the kid knows all about the missing assignments because she didn't hand them in! Stop treating students like infants.

I usually see any missing assignments immediately on ParentVue and get on my kid to turn it in. It's their responsibility. Period.

How do you know they are missing if they haven't been graded? They don't have missing assignments, they have missing grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not OP or PP but I do have a problem with the yo-yo grading especially in MS and HS. Its also not good in ES because there is where students start to build a relationship with work and feedback.

For ES school its standards based grading. I have no problem with this. Teachers should associate the assignments with particular standards and then parents can monitor(along with students as they age) how they are doing in terms of meeting standards and generally mastering content.

Same is true for MS and HS. Assignments shouldn’t be given for no reason. Just like ES, they should be aligned to standards that help ensure mastery of content and preparation for next subjects. When teacher’s are give students assignments, there is an expectation of timely feedback in some form so that students (and parents) can assess performance and mastery of content and skills. This feedback can be given in the form of grades, written or oral remarks on the specific assignment. Overall students should ‘t have to guess how they’re doing. They shouldn’t be finding out end of term that something is wrong when they have no opportunity to remedy a problem. If that’s not going to be the case, then classes should be Pass/Fail(I’ll even through in High Pass).

This system with grades yo-yoing all over the place at the end of term is ridiculous. It doesn’t prepare kids for rigorous standards of learning and work, decreases motivation, and is both unfair and inequitable.

Absolutely. This is a massive problem that causes both kids and parents to tune out. There is so much complaining about uninvolved parents, yet having systems in place that allow parents to monitor their kids' progress and hold them accountable aren't valued.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Um, the kid knows all about the missing assignments because she didn't hand them in! Stop treating students like infants.

I usually see any missing assignments immediately on ParentVue and get on my kid to turn it in. It's their responsibility. Period.

Right, but in our case there were no missing assignment in ParentVue because there were only four assignments listed until Friday when suddenly there were over 20.

We’ve experienced this as well as the situation where all the assignments can be seen in ParentVue but many remain ungraded for weeks or until the end. It’s ridiculous. It’s definitely not all teachers but also not just one.

The feedback was much clearer under the old grade reporting system. The problem with Parentvue is that teachers enter grades in Canvas but the grades are delayed to be visible in Synergy (the official grade book visible to Parents and Students) till the teacher syncs Synergy with Canvas. When all of the sudden 20 grades including missing assignments are uploaded to Synergy and students are rushing to turn in missing assignments, there is a yo-yo affect with the grades in Synergy.

The lack of timely information is ultimately harmful for the entire learning process. MCPS has had two school years to fix the reporting delays. Students need feedback in a timely fashion to learn from mistakes and fill in gaps. Parents at this point should contact the Board of Ed for the poor choice in a dual grade book system that do not work well together.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our 5th grader has only had four assignments graded all quarter (except in Math, which is a different teacher). There have been over 40 assignments given. The kids joke that turning in assignments is like submitting to a black hole because they disappear and are never heard from again. It isn't good motivation for the kids or a chance to reflect on their work.

Not all assignments are graded. Is it possible they have online assignments that are graded online?

These were the online assignments. But as of tonight there are now almost 30 assignments with grades in the system verses the 4 earlier today. Granted there is still no feedback for the students and no chance to ask questions about what they did well or need help on. But at least there are grades now? There are no grades in canvas either - just in synergy. I just heard from a friend because their kid has 10 missing assignments, but the parent had no idea because they weren’t graded or listed as missing until now. Their kid’s excuse was that the assignments never seem to get graded, so he didn’t think it mattered. I get that teachers are busy teaching, but I think kids deserve feedback as they do the work. Not a whole cascade of grades the last day. This is the first year we have experienced this.

This is ridiculous. Kids this age and their parents shouldn’t suddenly find out there are ten missing assignments without having a chance to submit them. This is BS and I hope your friend complains.

Yes, it is totally irritating and unfair to the students. In one of the classes it is impossible to determine whether an assignment was turned in properly until it is graded, unless you open up the assignment to check. Things seem to disappear into the void!


Um, the kid knows all about the missing assignments because she didn't hand them in! Stop treating students like infants.

I usually see any missing assignments immediately on ParentVue and get on my kid to turn it in. It's their responsibility. Period.

Right, but in our case there were no missing assignment in ParentVue because there were only four assignments listed until Friday when suddenly there were over 20.

We’ve experienced this as well as the situation where all the assignments can be seen in ParentVue but many remain ungraded for weeks or until the end. It’s ridiculous. It’s definitely not all teachers but also not just one.

The feedback was much clearer under the old grade reporting system. The problem with Parentvue is that teachers enter grades in Canvas but the grades are delayed to be visible in Synergy (the official grade book visible to Parents and Students) till the teacher syncs Synergy with Canvas. When all of the sudden 20 grades including missing assignments are uploaded to Synergy and students are rushing to turn in missing assignments, there is a yo-yo affect with the grades in Synergy.

The lack of timely information is ultimately harmful for the entire learning process. MCPS has had two school years to fix the reporting delays. Students need feedback in a timely fashion to learn from mistakes and fill in gaps. Parents at this point should contact the Board of Ed for the poor choice in a dual grade book system that do not work well together.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When are grades due?

April 5

Thanks!