TJ lost to Lake Braddock high school in Science Olympiad state competition

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Anonymous wrote:TJ lost to Lake Braddock high school in Science Olympiad state competition. Good job Lake Braddock high school!! This is a lesson for parents who think there’s no better high school than TJ.

More evidence that the old admission process just wasn't working.

TJ dominated Lake Braddock twice and then narrowly lost to Lake Braddock at the state competition. Braddock has a good team and TJ had a bad day. It happens.

The new admissions criteria is good for broadening access. It's not particularly good at selecting competitive students who win at competitions. I think most pro-reform supporters can acknowledge that.

Pro-reform here and I would agree completely. I think they will still select many students who will be capable of winning competitions, but a) those students might very well have better things to do with their time and b) they really don't need more than a few of them for each competition in order to be successful.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ lost to Lake Braddock high school in Science Olympiad state competition. Good job Lake Braddock high school!! This is a lesson for parents who think there’s no better high school than TJ.

More evidence that the old admission process just wasn't working.

TJ dominated Lake Braddock twice and then narrowly lost to Lake Braddock at the state competition. Braddock has a good team and TJ had a bad day. It happens.

The new admissions criteria is good for broadening access. It's not particularly good at selecting competitive students who win at competitions. I think most pro-reform supporters can acknowledge that.

Pro-reform here and I would agree completely. I think they will still select many students who will be capable of winning competitions, but a) those students might very well have better things to do with their time and b) they really don't need more than a few of them for each competition in order to be successful.

I agree that the new classes of students will likely care less about competitions than previous classes. It takes a certain amount of competitive spirit to prepare for and do well at these sorts of competitions. The old admissions criteria took into account extracurricular achievements and could more easily identify and include the best of them. There is nothing about the new admissions criteria that would indicate a kid enjoys competitions.

B) is a bit of wishful thinking. Just taking math as an example, the previous classes of TJ students would have 20+ AIME qualifiers each year. The latest class had 8. Not only does TJ have fewer high level mathletes, those 10+ other mathletes will be at other schools competing directly against TJ.

TJ's dominance will never be the same until it rewards extracurricular achievements in its admissions. But I imagine that's a feature and not a bug to many pro-reform advocates.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ lost to Lake Braddock high school in Science Olympiad state competition. Good job Lake Braddock high school!! This is a lesson for parents who think there’s no better high school than TJ.

More evidence that the old admission process just wasn't working.

TJ dominated Lake Braddock twice and then narrowly lost to Lake Braddock at the state competition. Braddock has a good team and TJ had a bad day. It happens.

The new admissions criteria is good for broadening access. It's not particularly good at selecting competitive students who win at competitions. I think most pro-reform supporters can acknowledge that.

Pro-reform here and I would agree completely. I think they will still select many students who will be capable of winning competitions, but a) those students might very well have better things to do with their time and b) they really don't need more than a few of them for each competition in order to be successful.

I agree that the new classes of students will likely care less about competitions than previous classes. It takes a certain amount of competitive spirit to prepare for and do well at these sorts of competitions. The old admissions criteria took into account extracurricular achievements and could more easily identify and include the best of them. There is nothing about the new admissions criteria that would indicate a kid enjoys competitions.

B) is a bit of wishful thinking. Just taking math as an example, the previous classes of TJ students would have 20+ AIME qualifiers each year. The latest class had 8. Not only does TJ have fewer high level mathletes, those 10+ other mathletes will be at other schools competing directly against TJ.

TJ's dominance will never be the same until it rewards extracurricular achievements in its admissions. But I imagine that's a feature and not a bug to many pro-reform advocates.

If your school doesn't offer AMCs and you don't have the funds to pay for math competition prep (like most of the Asian mathletes have been doing for years), you're not going to do well or be interested in these competitions. Does it matter in the long run? No. Many of these students have been pushed into these competitions because they thought it was the way into TJ and then MIT. YMMV.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ lost to Lake Braddock high school in Science Olympiad state competition. Good job Lake Braddock high school!! This is a lesson for parents who think there’s no better high school than TJ.

More evidence that the old admission process just wasn't working.

TJ dominated Lake Braddock twice and then narrowly lost to Lake Braddock at the state competition. Braddock has a good team and TJ had a bad day. It happens.

The new admissions criteria is good for broadening access. It's not particularly good at selecting competitive students who win at competitions. I think most pro-reform supporters can acknowledge that.

Pro-reform here and I would agree completely. I think they will still select many students who will be capable of winning competitions, but a) those students might very well have better things to do with their time and b) they really don't need more than a few of them for each competition in order to be successful.

I agree that the new classes of students will likely care less about competitions than previous classes. It takes a certain amount of competitive spirit to prepare for and do well at these sorts of competitions. The old admissions criteria took into account extracurricular achievements and could more easily identify and include the best of them. There is nothing about the new admissions criteria that would indicate a kid enjoys competitions.

B) is a bit of wishful thinking. Just taking math as an example, the previous classes of TJ students would have 20+ AIME qualifiers each year. The latest class had 8. Not only does TJ have fewer high level mathletes, those 10+ other mathletes will be at other schools competing directly against TJ.

TJ's dominance will never be the same until it rewards extracurricular achievements in its admissions. But I imagine that's a feature and not a bug to many pro-reform advocates.

If your school doesn't offer AMCs and you don't have the funds to pay for math competition prep (like most of the Asian mathletes have been doing for years), you're not going to do well or be interested in these competitions. Does it matter in the long run? No. Many of these students have been pushed into these competitions because they thought it was the way into TJ and then MIT. YMMV.

AMCs are offered for free by FCAG. You can also contact any nearby school that is offering them and join there. There are also tons of free resources on the AoPS website. 8th graders who are highly gifted in math should be able to qualify for AIME without spending any money at all.

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Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Science Olympiad is not a huge deal at TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Science Olympiad is not a huge deal at TJ.

Are you really so insecure that you can't admit TJ lost fair and square? TJ usually fields 3 competitive teams of 20, and it is hard to get on a team.

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Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Science Olympiad is not a huge deal at TJ.

Are you really so insecure that you can't admit TJ lost fair and square? TJ usually fields 3 competitive teams of 20, and it is hard to get on a team.

Maybe Curie will start offering Science Bowl classes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Science Olympiad is not a huge deal at TJ.

Are you really so insecure that you can't admit TJ lost fair and square? TJ usually fields 3 competitive teams of 20, and it is hard to get on a team.

No, I just know TJ very well.

Science Bowl at TJ is sort of like soccer in America. The best athletes don't play soccer here in the way they do in nearly every other country in the world, and that's why America loses at soccer more than they should.

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I've had kids at both TJ and LB - and they are both great schools. Congrats to the LBSS Science Olympiad team!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Academic competitions performances are not the criteria for National HS ranking, unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Science Olympiad is not a huge deal at TJ.

Are you really so insecure that you can't admit TJ lost fair and square? TJ usually fields 3 competitive teams of 20, and it is hard to get on a team.

No, I just know TJ very well.

Science Bowl at TJ is sort of like soccer in America. The best athletes don't play soccer here in the way they do in nearly every other country in the world, and that's why America loses at soccer more than they should.

Science Olympiad is not the same thing as Science Bowl. TJ rules Science bowl in VA. TJ has been representing VA in the National Science bowl forever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Science Olympiad is not a huge deal at TJ.

Are you really so insecure that you can't admit TJ lost fair and square? TJ usually fields 3 competitive teams of 20, and it is hard to get on a team.

No, I just know TJ very well.

Science Bowl at TJ is sort of like soccer in America. The best athletes don't play soccer here in the way they do in nearly every other country in the world, and that's why America loses at soccer more than they should.

Science Olympiad is not the same thing as Science Bowl. TJ rules Science bowl in VA. TJ has been representing VA in the National Science bowl forever.

My apologies. I have dealt with both. Neither are a huge deal at TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Science Olympiad is not a huge deal at TJ.

Are you really so insecure that you can't admit TJ lost fair and square? TJ usually fields 3 competitive teams of 20, and it is hard to get on a team.

No, I just know TJ very well.

Science Bowl at TJ is sort of like soccer in America. The best athletes don't play soccer here in the way they do in nearly every other country in the world, and that's why America loses at soccer more than they should.

Science Olympiad is not the same thing as Science Bowl. TJ rules Science bowl in VA. TJ has been representing VA in the National Science bowl forever.

My apologies. I have dealt with both. Neither are a huge deal at TJ.

Science bowl is

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Huge congrats to Lake Braddock students! They worked hard and deserved to win!
Now let's see how this is going to influence the national HS ranking. If the main criteria is merit-based academic success of students, then this may be the beginning of an end for TJ's ride as #1 HS in the country. Science Olympiad is a huge deal at TJ, and the student preparation cannot be overstated, so this is really a surprising turn of events for TJ.

Science Olympiad is not a huge deal at TJ.

Are you really so insecure that you can't admit TJ lost fair and square? TJ usually fields 3 competitive teams of 20, and it is hard to get on a team.

No, I just know TJ very well.

Science Bowl at TJ is sort of like soccer in America. The best athletes don't play soccer here in the way they do in nearly every other country in the world, and that's why America loses at soccer more than they should.

Science Olympiad is not the same thing as Science Bowl. TJ rules Science bowl in VA. TJ has been representing VA in the National Science bowl forever.

My apologies. I have dealt with both. Neither are a huge deal at TJ.

Science bowl is

It genuinely is not.