RHONJ: Dr Bill is a cheater

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Anonymous wrote:Bill cheating was surprising but explained what I consider plastic surgery overload on her part. I would imagine some of her insecurities might stem from her husband cheating. I think she should stop getting surgery because she already has messed up her face. And I thought she was really pretty. I also worry about the message she is sending to to her kids with her obsession with her looks and her husband being a plastic surgeon.

Being blindsided by cheating in a loving marriage does a real traumatic number on you—even when the OW was ugly. Lol So I can see why she got caught up in plastic surgery. I’m sure her self-esteem tanked. Being in the public eye is that much worse.

I’m not surprised only because I know of many marriages I admired with men that for all purposes seemed to be great family men and devoted husbands have an affair at midlife. If they can work through it with therapy and he gets help on his own there is a lot of hope for them.

And what doesn’t help that trauma is being judged by people outside of the marriage. Beyoncé has spoken about the shame and abuse people put on a woman who chooses to stay in a marriage with infidelity, no matter the reason or the work done by the spouse to change.

Could care less, she does not represent my moral compass.

That was nicely said. Beyonce is one of the dumbest women out there....not to be used as any role model. Her problem is like many - low self esteem which happens in all walks of life.

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Anonymous wrote:She said she had been talking to the surgeon on istagram for 1 year.

If Bill truly loved her, he wouldn't have cheated for 2 YEARS. That's different than a fling/ error in judgment. Would he have stayed if she cheated?

If he truly loved the OW, he would have left his marriage.

Nope, it’s way more complicated than that when you have kids and are in a long term marriage. You can love the OW, but not want to break up your own family.

It's possible, but not very common with men, particularly in midlife. Many men cheat for variety and escapism and some messed up insecurities they have with aging. 65% will report they love their wives and are happy in their marriages. It's a 'them' problem, not a 'we' problem. When women cheat, it is more often about an exit affair. Women and men fundamentally approach sex differently. All of the sex industries: prostitution, porn, high paid escorts, red light districts are designed for men because men can have sex with no love. Women may think they can but always catch the feels.

I find it amusing that the argument is that the man can love the OW, but a cheating man can't love his wife. This is some weird Bridges of Madison County fantasy with no insight into the cheating sex industry like online affair websites, etc.

It's not uncommon for cheating to occur when a wife is preoccupied with pregnancy/kids, ill parents, etc. It's sick but it is when marriages are most ripe for infidelity because men run scared and often sex grows temporarily stagnant at home. Add in a guy that got rich over time and now has women looking for that $ and his own grown sense of entitlement that grows from achieving that success.

Nobody knows what went on in their marriage or the type of therapy he got and the changes he made, and the additional work they did on their marriage. But, their kids were extremely happy and home life was stable so they did a very good job of shielding them from this major crisis in their marriage. Some marriages grow stronger after being blown apart like this and rebuilding. That many kids is going to strain any marriage.

They are both creepy looking, plastic surgery and all. Just like most of Hollywood. And, on another note, wtf did Jennifer Aniston do fillers? She looks more like a man every single day.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s old news. It happened TEN years ago. They obviously have worked through it. I understand how awful it is to go through. She didn’t tell a soul. Friends or her family. This is why it’s so isolating and traumatic for the betrayed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pagesix.com/2022/02/01/jennifer-aydins-daughter-discovered-dads-affair-on-tiktok/amp/

You'll never know. She may consider him dead for all we know. I stayed with someone that cheated but couldn't stand him. I put myself and my finances first, and yes often the guy thinks the woman forgave him. Except in reality she praying for a banana peel.

I know a guy like this because he does not want to give his cheater SAHW any $$ or the house. She's basically dead to him.

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Anonymous wrote:Bill cheating was surprising but explained what I consider plastic surgery overload on her part. I would imagine some of her insecurities might stem from her husband cheating. I think she should stop getting surgery because she already has messed up her face. And I thought she was really pretty. I also worry about the message she is sending to to her kids with her obsession with her looks and her husband being a plastic surgeon.

Being blindsided by cheating in a loving marriage does a real traumatic number on you—even when the OW was ugly. Lol So I can see why she got caught up in plastic surgery. I’m sure her self-esteem tanked. Being in the public eye is that much worse.

I’m not surprised only because I know of many marriages I admired with men that for all purposes seemed to be great family men and devoted husbands have an affair at midlife. If they can work through it with therapy and he gets help on his own there is a lot of hope for them.

And what doesn’t help that trauma is being judged by people outside of the marriage. Beyoncé has spoken about the shame and abuse people put on a woman who chooses to stay in a marriage with infidelity, no matter the reason or the work done by the spouse to change.

Could care less, she does not represent my moral compass.

That was nicely said. Beyonce is one of the dumbest women out there....not to be used as any role model. Her problem is like many - low self esteem which happens in all walks of life.

Does Hillary Clinton have low self-esteem? Bill actually weighed her down by the time she was Secretary of State, she could have cut him loose.

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Anonymous wrote:Bill cheating was surprising but explained what I consider plastic surgery overload on her part. I would imagine some of her insecurities might stem from her husband cheating. I think she should stop getting surgery because she already has messed up her face. And I thought she was really pretty. I also worry about the message she is sending to to her kids with her obsession with her looks and her husband being a plastic surgeon.

Being blindsided by cheating in a loving marriage does a real traumatic number on you—even when the OW was ugly. Lol So I can see why she got caught up in plastic surgery. I’m sure her self-esteem tanked. Being in the public eye is that much worse.

I’m not surprised only because I know of many marriages I admired with men that for all purposes seemed to be great family men and devoted husbands have an affair at midlife. If they can work through it with therapy and he gets help on his own there is a lot of hope for them.

And what doesn’t help that trauma is being judged by people outside of the marriage. Beyoncé has spoken about the shame and abuse people put on a woman who chooses to stay in a marriage with infidelity, no matter the reason or the work done by the spouse to change.

Could care less, she does not represent my moral compass.

That was nicely said. Beyonce is one of the dumbest women out there....not to be used as any role model. Her problem is like many - low self esteem which happens in all walks of life.

Does Hillary Clinton have low self-esteem? Bill actually weighed her down by the time she was Secretary of State, she could have cut him loose.

I agree. He was one of the reasons she lost the election. No one wanted that predator back in the W.H. alone with Huma and creepy Wiener.

There's a reason she surrounds herself with bad people....but yes she should have gotten rid of him after their stint in the W.H.

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Anonymous wrote:Bill cheating was surprising but explained what I consider plastic surgery overload on her part. I would imagine some of her insecurities might stem from her husband cheating. I think she should stop getting surgery because she already has messed up her face. And I thought she was really pretty. I also worry about the message she is sending to to her kids with her obsession with her looks and her husband being a plastic surgeon.

Jen looks like she is miserable. She is on the road to butchering her face and body because her husband's philandering is making her so insecure and nuts. It's painful to watch her in that huge house of horrors that she exists in. Sad.

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It's horrible, I'm so saddened, but I wasn't surprised. Most men cheat. They just do. I never condone it, or excuse it, but I know it will happen. The worst part of this situation was the 2 years long part - and that she found out while pregnant.

I can't stand Margaret either. She's so dismissive of her own affair. Yuck.

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Anonymous wrote:It's horrible, I'm so saddened, but I wasn't surprised. Most men cheat. They just do. I never condone it, or excuse it, but I know it will happen. The worst part of this situation was the 2 years long part - and that she found out while pregnant.

I can't stand Margaret either. She's so dismissive of her own affair. Yuck.

I don't think she's being dismissive. She admits that it was wrong, and chose to divulge all the dirty details before she was outed. Along with her affair with her boss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She said she had been talking to the surgeon on istagram for 1 year.

If Bill truly loved her, he wouldn't have cheated for 2 YEARS. That's different than a fling/ error in judgment. Would he have stayed if she cheated?

If he truly loved the OW, he would have left his marriage.

Nope, it’s way more complicated than that when you have kids and are in a long term marriage. You can love the OW, but not want to break up your own family.

It's possible, but not very common with men, particularly in midlife. Many men cheat for variety and escapism and some messed up insecurities they have with aging. 65% will report they love their wives and are happy in their marriages. It's a 'them' problem, not a 'we' problem. When women cheat, it is more often about an exit affair. Women and men fundamentally approach sex differently. All of the sex industries: prostitution, porn, high paid escorts, red light districts are designed for men because men can have sex with no love. Women may think they can but always catch the feels.

I find it amusing that the argument is that the man can love the OW, but a cheating man can't love his wife. This is some weird Bridges of Madison County fantasy with no insight into the cheating sex industry like online affair websites, etc.

We aren’t talking about the cheating sex industry. We are talking about a 2 year relationship Dr Bill had with OW. I don’t doubt there were feelings of real love there, but he’s not going to leave his family for the OW. That doesn’t mean he didn’t love her. People in affairs really love each other but it doesn’t mean it can work out long term or that they will leave their spouses for their affair partner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She said she had been talking to the surgeon on istagram for 1 year.

If Bill truly loved her, he wouldn't have cheated for 2 YEARS. That's different than a fling/ error in judgment. Would he have stayed if she cheated?

If he truly loved the OW, he would have left his marriage.

Nope, it’s way more complicated than that when you have kids and are in a long term marriage. You can love the OW, but not want to break up your own family.

It's possible, but not very common with men, particularly in midlife. Many men cheat for variety and escapism and some messed up insecurities they have with aging. 65% will report they love their wives and are happy in their marriages. It's a 'them' problem, not a 'we' problem. When women cheat, it is more often about an exit affair. Women and men fundamentally approach sex differently. All of the sex industries: prostitution, porn, high paid escorts, red light districts are designed for men because men can have sex with no love. Women may think they can but always catch the feels.

I find it amusing that the argument is that the man can love the OW, but a cheating man can't love his wife. This is some weird Bridges of Madison County fantasy with no insight into the cheating sex industry like online affair websites, etc.

We aren’t talking about the cheating sex industry. We are talking about a 2 year relationship Dr Bill had with OW. I don’t doubt there were feelings of real love there, but he’s not going to leave his family for the OW. That doesn’t mean he didn’t love her. People in affairs really love each other but it doesn’t mean it can work out long term or that they will leave their spouses for their affair partner.

Cheating once i might be able to forgive but 2 YEARS! Oh hell no. You gotta have some self respect. There's no way that daughter of hers is gonna be ok what with her mom cutting up her face that looks just like her own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She said she had been talking to the surgeon on istagram for 1 year.

If Bill truly loved her, he wouldn't have cheated for 2 YEARS. That's different than a fling/ error in judgment. Would he have stayed if she cheated?

If he truly loved the OW, he would have left his marriage.

Nope, it’s way more complicated than that when you have kids and are in a long term marriage. You can love the OW, but not want to break up your own family.

It's possible, but not very common with men, particularly in midlife. Many men cheat for variety and escapism and some messed up insecurities they have with aging. 65% will report they love their wives and are happy in their marriages. It's a 'them' problem, not a 'we' problem. When women cheat, it is more often about an exit affair. Women and men fundamentally approach sex differently. All of the sex industries: prostitution, porn, high paid escorts, red light districts are designed for men because men can have sex with no love. Women may think they can but always catch the feels.

I find it amusing that the argument is that the man can love the OW, but a cheating man can't love his wife. This is some weird Bridges of Madison County fantasy with no insight into the cheating sex industry like online affair websites, etc.

We aren’t talking about the cheating sex industry. We are talking about a 2 year relationship Dr Bill had with OW. I don’t doubt there were feelings of real love there, but he’s not going to leave his family for the OW. That doesn’t mean he didn’t love her. People in affairs really love each other but it doesn’t mean it can work out long term or that they will leave their spouses for their affair partner.

You are a woman. The length of time it goes on dies not directly correlate to love. I had a no strings thing with a married woman for years and certainly didn’t love her. We met once a month and sometimes went months without seeing one another. Who knows if he saw this pharmacy rep just when she was “in port”. Pharma reps travel constantly. If they worked in the same office and saw each other every day or were banging several times a week that’s on thing. But I had less sex in a 3-year affair overall than I did in a 5-month one.

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People in affairs are often in no-string situations particularly when they are married. It’s the premise of Ashley Madison. It’s a sex hookup site, not find your soul mate . Pp is thinking of the romanticized Hollywood version. Things are much sketchier IRL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's horrible, I'm so saddened, but I wasn't surprised. Most men cheat. They just do. I never condone it, or excuse it, but I know it will happen. The worst part of this situation was the 2 years long part - and that she found out while pregnant.

I can't stand Margaret either. She's so dismissive of her own affair. Yuck.

I don't think she's being dismissive. She admits that it was wrong, and chose to divulge all the dirty details before she was outed. Along with her affair with her boss.

Margaret constantly cheated on her husband. She had an affair with the musician from Foreigner and the guy she is married to now was the plumber her husband hired when they she started banging. Banging the hired help . Classy. The woman is complete trash. She jokes and thinks her infidelity is cute. I could see why a woman like that would be a serious trigger for a woman that had been betrayed in her marriage. Hearing a trashy woman bragging about banging married men and infidelity. That had to be so traumatic to listen to with what she had been dealing with privately with no friend or family support for years.

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^ and she banged her boss too, presumably he was also married. The woman is a walking venereal disease that can’t keep her legs closed.

[Anonymous]

While touched on, it is bizarre her plastic surgeon husband didn’t operate on her. If it was purely about her being a difficult patient, why not go with one of his referrals? Or she agrees to keep her complaining down? Or somewhere else in the uS? And we never hear HIM say why he refused.

They are on tv and it would be free advertising for him. Possibilities:

- he told her her nose and chin were fine and not to do it

- he didn’t want the world critiquing his work

That’s what I think it is. Bc he did many other procedures on her and her being a difficult patient never came up.