Snow forecast

[Anonymous]

NWS just upgraded MoCo to a Winter Weather Advisory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NWS just upgraded MoCo to a Winter Weather Advisory.

Yes!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NWS just upgraded MoCo to a Winter Weather Advisory.

Yes!

We need a warning. Then we’ll be golden.

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Anonymous wrote:What weather report are you relying on?

I’m seeing a mostly rain event.

Here are a few highlights…

Capital Weather Gang
D.C.-area forecast: From highs in the 60s today, to a winter storm watch tonight with accumulating snow likely
The chance of measurable snow has gone up considerably

By A. Camden Walker and Dan Stillman
Today at 6:30 a.m. EST|Updated today at 9:35 a.m. EST

Forecast Summary
Today’s warmth ends as a late-day cold front moves through, tanking temperatures into the 30s late tonight, and setting the stage for a period of snow overnight into midday Monday. The National Weather Service has issued a winter storm watch for much of the region.
The watch, previously only in effect from the District south, was expanded Sunday morning to the north and northwest to include Loudoun, Montgomery and Howard counties although confidence in meaningful amounts decreases to the north and west (Fauquier County is under a winter weather advisory for the possibility of 2 to 4 inches).
Preliminarily we think a general range is 2 to 6 inches for the D.C. metro area, but it’s too early to call this our final forecast. We will attempt to fine-tune this and map it out later today after another set of model runs.

Right.

So moco is north of DC, and this report says snow would be iffy north of the city.

All the models I’ve seen point to rain in moco. Rain.

It would need to be a lot colder earlier on and shift north for us to get snow.

2-6 inches for the DC metro area. Mo Co is part of the DC metro area.

I’m a lifelong moco resident. While the dc metro area refers to moco, mcps does not base school closings on over-inclusive weather reports. This weather prediction makes clear that the likely snow event covers dc and parts south. The inclusion of moco is on the bubble/very iffy.

I doubt we will get snow. If anything, perhaps a dusting.

But if staff are calling out, it’s a great time for a fake snow day.

The "always open" crowd is super committed!

I’m definitely not the “always open” crowd. I’m just watching the weather.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

That's the only reason they are still going in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NWS just upgraded MoCo to a Winter Weather Advisory.

Yes!

We need a warning. Then we’ll be golden.

+1

[Anonymous]

Not surprised. A warm Christmas usually equals snow a week or two later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

It’s going to be subject reviews for the next several weeks- no new learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

I entirely understand staffing issues with the difficulty of finding subs. But that’s a terrible excuse to use to close schools when mcps hasn’t done anything to improve the situation. Double or triple sub pay for the rest of the year and see how bad the problem is after that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

I entirely understand staffing issues with the difficulty of finding subs. But that’s a terrible excuse to use to close schools when mcps hasn’t done anything to improve the situation. Double or triple sub pay for the rest of the year and see how bad the problem is after that.

Again. You’re still not getting it because they won’t do it. What does it take to get this county to actually listen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

I entirely understand staffing issues with the difficulty of finding subs. But that’s a terrible excuse to use to close schools when mcps hasn’t done anything to improve the situation. Double or triple sub pay for the rest of the year and see how bad the problem is after that.

Many of the substitutes in MCPS are retired teachers. They tend to sub for the same school(s) and the staff get to know them. They’re not substituting for the money. They enjoy working with the kids. They’re staying out of school for health reasons and avoiding unnecessary exposure from being around young people. Increasing the pay likely won’t lead to an increase in substitute availability among this crew of substitutes. It may catch the attention of very young 20 something age group. These are some of the people working in schools now as “moderators” or something like that. At our school, these are the people now supervising lunch/recess. They have little experience and poor behavior management skills. They are lovely people and the students adore them, but they don’t really know how to manage groups of children. Having them in charge all day in a classroom would not result in a productive day of learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

You really don’t see the connection?

Young kids, in particular, can't learn without in-person support and monitoring, for both safety and educational reasons. There are very limited options for short-term child care environments in a position to support virtual learning in an effective way. And they're very expensive.

What are working parents supposed to do that isn't terrible for their kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

I entirely understand staffing issues with the difficulty of finding subs. But that’s a terrible excuse to use to close schools when mcps hasn’t done anything to improve the situation. Double or triple sub pay for the rest of the year and see how bad the problem is after that.

Many of the substitutes in MCPS are retired teachers. They tend to sub for the same school(s) and the staff get to know them. They’re not substituting for the money. They enjoy working with the kids. They’re staying out of school for health reasons and avoiding unnecessary exposure from being around young people. Increasing the pay likely won’t lead to an increase in substitute availability among this crew of substitutes. It may catch the attention of very young 20 something age group. These are some of the people working in schools now as “moderators” or something like that. At our school, these are the people now supervising lunch/recess. They have little experience and poor behavior management skills. They are lovely people and the students adore them, but they don’t really know how to manage groups of children. Having them in charge all day in a classroom would not result in a productive day of learning.

Those are some gross generalizations. I hear what you’re saying about retirees, but they’re not the only group, and they’re not immune to interest in money. Paying more might not increase the pool, but will increase the likelihood that people will take jobs. And it would probably pull over subs that might otherwise sub in neighbor districts.

Other districts have done this and it has generally worked. I’d rather my kids have a 20-something in the classroom than the mess that is virtual, particularly when it comes to teachers that end up playing double duty by caring for their own kids during the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a mid-size MCPS elementary school and we currently have 17 staff members out tomorrow. I hate snow but maybe it is divine intervention LOL.

Oh my! How in the world is this going to work? There will absolutely not be substitutes for all of these positions. If you get one or two subs, you’ll be lucky. What a mess!

It’s not going to work. I’m seriously not sure how the “if we close school, close everything” crowd doesn’t still grasp staff and sub shortages. Such a stupid group of people that also pretend education means in person. If there’s no one to teach the kids, no one is learning anything. Just be honest and call it what it is… daycare. “Single issue education voters…” yeah right. We see right through you.

I entirely understand staffing issues with the difficulty of finding subs. But that’s a terrible excuse to use to close schools when mcps hasn’t done anything to improve the situation. Double or triple sub pay for the rest of the year and see how bad the problem is after that.

Again. You’re still not getting it because they won’t do it. What does it take to get this county to actually listen?

Ok, but then it’s on MCPS to find a way to keep schools staffed. They’ve already been pulling paraeducators. Central staff have done a little bit, and could do more. For elementary, I suppose they could cancel specials and use those teachers as well (obviously an unpopular choice with the teachers, but maybe they should have thought about this when MCEA negotiated the sub pay rate).