South West County HS?

[Anonymous]

I think the issue with Clifton ES was there was no municipal water at the site-it was on well water? I think ?? Seems like a simple enough problem to solve.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will people volunteer for their houses to be condemned at a different location?

If they build at Hutchison some of the houses around the school would likely be taken in eminent domain. That land would be needed for the larger building and for parking as well.

I don’t know how many of the houses are occupied by renters vs. owners. Presumably those holding the houses as investment properties wouldn’t fight selling them, and if that’s most of the neighborhood then easily done.

If the county is worried about traffic they could use some of the purchased land to cut another road.

They can’t build on the Hutchison property but on the other side of the toll road from Hutchison they can. It’s vacant land and parkland over there. The county has taken park land and built schools on it in the past so I can see them doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will people volunteer for their houses to be condemned at a different location?

If they build at Hutchison some of the houses around the school would likely be taken in eminent domain. That land would be needed for the larger building and for parking as well.

I don’t know how many of the houses are occupied by renters vs. owners. Presumably those holding the houses as investment properties wouldn’t fight selling them, and if that’s most of the neighborhood then easily done.

If the county is worried about traffic they could use some of the purchased land to cut another road.

They can’t build on the Hutchison property but on the other side of the toll road from Hutchison they can. It’s vacant land and parkland over there. The county has taken park land and built schools on it in the past so I can see them doing this.

Where? Frying Pan Park?

[Anonymous]

They can’t build on the Hutchison property but on the other side of the toll road from Hutchison they can. It’s vacant land and parkland over there. The county has taken park land and built schools on it in the past so I can see them doing this.


Where? Frying Pan Park?

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If you are thinking of the area between Centreville rd and 28--right next to the DTR, then you have not been there lately..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the issue with Clifton ES was there was no municipal water at the site-it was on well water? I think ?? Seems like a simple enough problem to solve.

Yes, it was on well water and septic before it closed.
There is currently a study being done for adaptive reuse of the school.

[Anonymous]

Hutchison is NOWHERE near Centreville or Chantilly HS. Maybe they could take some of EC Lawrence park land and build a high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hutchison is NOWHERE near Centreville or Chantilly HS. Maybe they could take some of EC Lawrence park land and build a high school.

Hutchison has no redeeming qualities for a new high school. The neighborhoods who are closest are: Herndon; South Lakes; and Westfield. They'd have to take those neighborhoods from South Lakes that they fought so hard to get.

There are neighborhoods along Lee Highway near Centreville that border Centreville High School, and get sent to Fairfax--read the comment section in the boundary survey--many comments that their kids should be at Centreville or Chantilly, and not Fairfax.

The Hutchison site makes no sense. It appears that some want it there because it would take some low income kids out of Herndon High. The irony, of course, is that the new Metro will increase higher income people in that corridor. I suspect that the current Hutchison neighborhoods will get rebuilt and renovated.

When Herndon/Langley boundaries were set, Herndon had nowhere near the low income kids it does now. Neighborhoods change.

[Anonymous]

I think I remember Strauss implying years ago that there would be a high school there and it’s the widely held assumption at this point.

What evidence is there that FCPS intends to build there? Anything in black and white?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hutchison is NOWHERE near Centreville or Chantilly HS. Maybe they could take some of EC Lawrence park land and build a high school.

Hutchison has no redeeming qualities for a new high school. The neighborhoods who are closest are: Herndon; South Lakes; and Westfield. They'd have to take those neighborhoods from South Lakes that they fought so hard to get.

There are neighborhoods along Lee Highway near Centreville that border Centreville High School, and get sent to Fairfax--read the comment section in the boundary survey--many comments that their kids should be at Centreville or Chantilly, and not Fairfax.

The Hutchison site makes no sense. It appears that some want it there because it would take some low income kids out of Herndon High. The irony, of course, is that the new Metro will increase higher income people in that corridor. I suspect that the current Hutchison neighborhoods will get rebuilt and renovated.

When Herndon/Langley boundaries were set, Herndon had nowhere near the low income kids it does now. Neighborhoods change.

So seed a new HS with kids from Herndon, Westfield and South Lakes. Move part of Centreville to Westfield, part of Chantilly to Centreville, part of Oakton to South Lakes, and part of Langley to Herndon.

[Anonymous]

The fact that FCPS can’t move forward with building new schools and adding capacity where it is most needed due to the incompetence of Jeff Platenberg and the corruption of the School Board is contributing heavily to FCPS’s decline. Meanwhile LCPS hums along building and opening new schools that are beautiful and a reasonable size.

[Anonymous]

So seed a new HS with kids from Herndon, Westfield and South Lakes. Move part of Centreville to Westfield, part of Chantilly to Centreville, part of Oakton to South Lakes, and part of Langley to Herndon.

So, you want to play fruitbasket turnover? Move lots of kids unnecessarily when they are currently fine where they are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So seed a new HS with kids from Herndon, Westfield and South Lakes. Move part of Centreville to Westfield, part of Chantilly to Centreville, part of Oakton to South Lakes, and part of Langley to Herndon.

So, you want to play fruitbasket turnover? Move lots of kids unnecessarily when they are currently fine where they are?

FCPS should build the new school at the first available location where sufficient land can be assembled, adjust the boundaries as needed, and tell people like you that you can leave if you can’t deal with it. They identified the need for an additional high school years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So seed a new HS with kids from Herndon, Westfield and South Lakes. Move part of Centreville to Westfield, part of Chantilly to Centreville, part of Oakton to South Lakes, and part of Langley to Herndon.

So, you want to play fruitbasket turnover? Move lots of kids unnecessarily when they are currently fine where they are?

FCPS should build the new school at the first available location where sufficient land can be assembled, adjust the boundaries as needed, and tell people like you that you can leave if you can’t deal with it. They identified the need for an additional high school years ago.

That is a terrible location for a high school for any kids and for the community. The traffic patterns are terrible and almost all the students would still be coming from the other side of the toll road. But, it is clear why you want it. You revealed it in your plan. Why would you build a new school for kids to relieve schools that don't need relief and disrupt them. Any time there is a change there is disruption. This would disrupt twice as many people for no good reason. And, unlike fruitbasket turnover, this is not a game.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand who thinks a high school in that location is a good idea? Who benefits from that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So seed a new HS with kids from Herndon, Westfield and South Lakes. Move part of Centreville to Westfield, part of Chantilly to Centreville, part of Oakton to South Lakes, and part of Langley to Herndon.

So, you want to play fruitbasket turnover? Move lots of kids unnecessarily when they are currently fine where they are?

FCPS should build the new school at the first available location where sufficient land can be assembled, adjust the boundaries as needed, and tell people like you that you can leave if you can’t deal with it. They identified the need for an additional high school years ago.

That is a terrible location for a high school for any kids and for the community. The traffic patterns are terrible and almost all the students would still be coming from the other side of the toll road. But, it is clear why you want it. You revealed it in your plan. Why would you build a new school for kids to relieve schools that don't need relief and disrupt them. Any time there is a change there is disruption. This would disrupt twice as many people for no good reason. And, unlike fruitbasket turnover, this is not a game.

All I did was explain how a new HS, even if built near Hutchison, could ultimately provide relief to the most crowded high schools in western Fairfax - Chantilly and Centreville. It requires moving more kids to even out the enrollments than if they’d built a school at a different site that is apparently no longer available, but it wouldn’t be the first time that happened.

Sadly, I can’t force the Saudis to return the land near Carson but then neither can you. It doesn’t mean that a school that’s been on two bonds, including the 2021 bond, should be dropped.