South West County HS?

Anonymous
The BOS should be investigated for selling the Carson site to Saudi Arabia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The BOS should be investigated for selling the Carson site to Saudi Arabia.


We've already seen what types of "investigation" of Democratic office holders Steve Descano can arrange.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The BOS should be investigated for selling the Carson site to Saudi Arabia.


Amen.

They did this behind the backs of the local community. Gave the excuse that there was not enough property for a new high school. Interesting, that there was more acreage there than at the Hutchison site. And, traffic patterns would have been far more acceptable--though still too far north to provide the relief needed for the overcrowded schools. Hutchison is even farther north and provides little relief to overcrowded schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The BOS should be investigated for selling the Carson site to Saudi Arabia.


Amen.

They did this behind the backs of the local community. Gave the excuse that there was not enough property for a new high school. Interesting, that there was more acreage there than at the Hutchison site. And, traffic patterns would have been far more acceptable--though still too far north to provide the relief needed for the overcrowded schools. Hutchison is even farther north and provides little relief to overcrowded schools.


There is never any consistency in what FCPS does. Never.

They always try to defend their decisions as a matter of principle, when it’s actually almost always a matter of expediency and/or politics.

FCPS is poorly and dishonesty run at the administrative/School Board level, but sometimes there are amazing principals and teachers who, like families, deserve better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The BOS should be investigated for selling the Carson site to Saudi Arabia.


Amen.

They did this behind the backs of the local community. Gave the excuse that there was not enough property for a new high school. Interesting, that there was more acreage there than at the Hutchison site. And, traffic patterns would have been far more acceptable--though still too far north to provide the relief needed for the overcrowded schools. Hutchison is even farther north and provides little relief to overcrowded schools.


Adding capacity at the Hutchison can still provide relief for overcrowded or oversized schools. It just requires more steps to get there.
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Anonymous wrote:Will people volunteer for their houses to be condemned at a different location?


If they build at Hutchison some of the houses around the school would likely be taken in eminent domain. That land would be needed for the larger building and for parking as well.

I don’t know how many of the houses are occupied by renters vs. owners. Presumably those holding the houses as investment properties wouldn’t fight selling them, and if that’s most of the neighborhood then easily done.

If the county is worried about traffic they could use some of the purchased land to cut another road.


Another road? Where? 28 and Centreville are both parking lots at rush hour--at least, before the pandemic. The new Metro will bring more traffic.


Looking at the map, I would think cutting a road from Parcher to Herndon parkway would be a good idea. And parcher to Astoria circle
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will people volunteer for their houses to be condemned at a different location?


If they build at Hutchison some of the houses around the school would likely be taken in eminent domain. That land would be needed for the larger building and for parking as well.

I don’t know how many of the houses are occupied by renters vs. owners. Presumably those holding the houses as investment properties wouldn’t fight selling them, and if that’s most of the neighborhood then easily done.

If the county is worried about traffic they could use some of the purchased land to cut another road.


Another road? Where? 28 and Centreville are both parking lots at rush hour--at least, before the pandemic. The new Metro will bring more traffic.


Looking at the map, I would think cutting a road from Parcher to Herndon parkway would be a good idea. And parcher to Astoria circle


Except that the overcrowded schools are all in the other direction. The students would almost all be coming from the other side of the DTR. Remember, this is supposed to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly and Centreville.

Look at a map. None of the overcrowded schools are congruent to the Hutchison site.
Anonymous
Maybe they can take some of the land they own near Westfield HS, build a new middle school, and turn a middle school that needs to be renovated into a high school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will people volunteer for their houses to be condemned at a different location?


If they build at Hutchison some of the houses around the school would likely be taken in eminent domain. That land would be needed for the larger building and for parking as well.

I don’t know how many of the houses are occupied by renters vs. owners. Presumably those holding the houses as investment properties wouldn’t fight selling them, and if that’s most of the neighborhood then easily done.

If the county is worried about traffic they could use some of the purchased land to cut another road.


Another road? Where? 28 and Centreville are both parking lots at rush hour--at least, before the pandemic. The new Metro will bring more traffic.


Looking at the map, I would think cutting a road from Parcher to Herndon parkway would be a good idea. And parcher to Astoria circle


Except that the overcrowded schools are all in the other direction. The students would almost all be coming from the other side of the DTR. Remember, this is supposed to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly and Centreville.

Look at a map. None of the overcrowded schools are congruent to the Hutchison site.


And, pretty sure that Astoria is adjacent to the Innovation Station development for the new Metro.
Hutchison would be a terrible choice--
Anonymous
They have to build where they can. Land is expensive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They have to build where they can. Land is expensive.


That’s true. And I doubt the Hutchison site is any closer to Herndon than Madison is to Oakton.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They have to build where they can. Land is expensive.


That’s true. And I doubt the Hutchison site is any closer to Herndon than Madison is to Oakton.


But, Herndon is not the school that most needs relief.

1. The schools that most need relief are not near the site (Chantilly, Centreville) Neither are the neighborhoods that attend those schools.
2. The traffic patterns are quite different from Oakton and Madison. Traffic alone should prevent this site from being used. There is only one artery that comes from the south. In fact, there is only one artery period. (Elden/Centreville) Add this to the new metro station nearby and it would be a traffic nightmare. Every school bus and Metro bus would be lined up on Centreville Rd blocking entrances to the DTR.
3. The location is not large enough to build a high school, fields, parking, etc. There is already a school on the site. Adding a school, parking, stadium, practice fields, etc. would be very difficult.








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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They have to build where they can. Land is expensive.


That’s true. And I doubt the Hutchison site is any closer to Herndon than Madison is to Oakton.


But, Herndon is not the school that most needs relief.

1. The schools that most need relief are not near the site (Chantilly, Centreville) Neither are the neighborhoods that attend those schools.
2. The traffic patterns are quite different from Oakton and Madison. Traffic alone should prevent this site from being used. There is only one artery that comes from the south. In fact, there is only one artery period. (Elden/Centreville) Add this to the new metro station nearby and it would be a traffic nightmare. Every school bus and Metro bus would be lined up on Centreville Rd blocking entrances to the DTR.
3. The location is not large enough to build a high school, fields, parking, etc. There is already a school on the site. Adding a school, parking, stadium, practice fields, etc. would be very difficult.










What about the Clifton ES site?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They have to build where they can. Land is expensive.


That’s true. And I doubt the Hutchison site is any closer to Herndon than Madison is to Oakton.


But, Herndon is not the school that most needs relief.

1. The schools that most need relief are not near the site (Chantilly, Centreville) Neither are the neighborhoods that attend those schools.
2. The traffic patterns are quite different from Oakton and Madison. Traffic alone should prevent this site from being used. There is only one artery that comes from the south. In fact, there is only one artery period. (Elden/Centreville) Add this to the new metro station nearby and it would be a traffic nightmare. Every school bus and Metro bus would be lined up on Centreville Rd blocking entrances to the DTR.
3. The location is not large enough to build a high school, fields, parking, etc. There is already a school on the site. Adding a school, parking, stadium, practice fields, etc. would be very difficult.










What about the Clifton ES site?


I know nothing about that site, but the area would make a lot more sense to provide relief. It would also enable those who live in Centreville's back yard to go to Centreville rather than Fairfax.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The 2013 bond had $10M for the South West County HS. The 2021 bond had $13.5M for the Western HS. Since they've confirmed it's just one HS, it clearly means they aren't limiting themselves to building in the southwestern part of the county. I know that may not sit well with one group in particular, which wants the new HS as far from its current boundaries as possible. But it is what it is.


It also menas that they aren’t limiting themselves to building it in Herndon.
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