Searching for more safety schools for my DS

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Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

You don't really believe that, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

No, they are not. Not even close. BU mayyybe but not Northeastern and definitely not Tufts.

Agree that Tufts is not a safety for anybody--especially without showing previous interest, huge yield protection there. However, Northeastern and BU are 100% safeties for a candidate like OPs son. I guy, from Sidwell or St. Albans (assuming it's one of those-if it's GDS, Burke, or Maret, it's true, those won't have quite the same rate of acceptance). But those grades put a kid at the top 15% of StA or Sidwell.

This.
3 B+ grades from Sidwell/STA is likely in the top 10%. He's a very, very competitive applicant.
It's very different from public. This is not a public/private debate--just calling a spade a spade. These are about as good as a kid's grades get at these privates.

Still not a safety anywhere. A safety should be a true safety for everyone--for the under 10% chance things go wrong. You just need 1--and you only need to deploy it if RD deadlines roll around and you don't have another acceptance in hand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

By definition, they aren't safeties for anyone due to low admission rates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

No, they are not. Not even close. BU mayyybe but not Northeastern and definitely not Tufts.

Agree that Tufts is not a safety for anybody--especially without showing previous interest, huge yield protection there. However, Northeastern and BU are 100% safeties for a candidate like OPs son. I guy, from Sidwell or St. Albans (assuming it's one of those-if it's GDS, Burke, or Maret, it's true, those won't have quite the same rate of acceptance). But those grades put a kid at the top 15% of StA or Sidwell.

This.
3 B+ grades from Sidwell/STA is likely in the top 10%. He's a very, very competitive applicant.
It's very different from public. This is not a public/private debate--just calling a spade a spade. These are about as good as a kid's grades get at these privates.

But what is your statement based on? Is it your gut feeling that privates are so much better? or can you offer some measureable/objectives data that points to privates superioty over public? I dare you to back up your condensending post of "this is not about private vs public but privates are so much better".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

No, they are not. Not even close. BU mayyybe but not Northeastern and definitely not Tufts.

Agree that Tufts is not a safety for anybody--especially without showing previous interest, huge yield protection there. However, Northeastern and BU are 100% safeties for a candidate like OPs son. I guy, from Sidwell or St. Albans (assuming it's one of those-if it's GDS, Burke, or Maret, it's true, those won't have quite the same rate of acceptance). But those grades put a kid at the top 15% of StA or Sidwell.

You're high or clueless if you think that BU or Northeastern are safeties for any kid. Or you don't know the meaning of the phrase 'safety school'. Last year BU accepted just over 18% of all applicants (75k+ total). Northeastern accepted just over 20% of the 64k+ applicants. OP's son is a good match for either school, but no guarantees whatsoever. These are targets, not safeties.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

No, they are not. Not even close. BU mayyybe but not Northeastern and definitely not Tufts.

Agree that Tufts is not a safety for anybody--especially without showing previous interest, huge yield protection there. However, Northeastern and BU are 100% safeties for a candidate like OPs son. I guy, from Sidwell or St. Albans (assuming it's one of those-if it's GDS, Burke, or Maret, it's true, those won't have quite the same rate of acceptance). But those grades put a kid at the top 15% of StA or Sidwell.

OP here. It's not Sidwell or StA. It's one of the other 3 you identified.

He does have Tufts on his list. His college counselor advises that Tufts is definitely not a safety for anyone.

Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. Reading carefully and taking notes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

You completely misunderstand what a "safety" school actually is. It is mostly about the admissions rate; where you rank in your class at Sidwell is not a factor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

No, they are not. Not even close. BU mayyybe but not Northeastern and definitely not Tufts.

Agree that Tufts is not a safety for anybody--especially without showing previous interest, huge yield protection there. However, Northeastern and BU are 100% safeties for a candidate like OPs son. I guy, from Sidwell or St. Albans (assuming it's one of those-if it's GDS, Burke, or Maret, it's true, those won't have quite the same rate of acceptance). But those grades put a kid at the top 15% of StA or Sidwell.

This.
3 B+ grades from Sidwell/STA is likely in the top 10%. He's a very, very competitive applicant.
It's very different from public. This is not a public/private debate--just calling a spade a spade. These are about as good as a kid's grades get at these privates.

But what is your statement based on? Is it your gut feeling that privates are so much better? or can you offer some measureable/objectives data that points to privates superioty over public? I dare you to back up your condensending post of "this is not about private vs public but privates are so much better".

Good Lord, you are sensitive. The point is--not that privates are better--just that the grading scales at some Top private schools are deflated. no one said that private was better. just that the smartest kids in the class max out at about a 3.9--and grades aren't not weighted. In public there are many kids with a 4.0. then you can weigh up to a 4.7+.

I have kids in BOTH public and private High schools. the grading scales are just DIFFERENT. That's the only point.

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If he likes cities, Temple, Pitt, Drexel, DePaul, Loyola might be closer to true safeties (but apply ASAP!)

[Anonymous]

SMU and Denver

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

You completely misunderstand what a "safety" school actually is. It is mostly about the admissions rate; where you rank in your class at Sidwell is not a factor.

Especially since Sidwell doesn't rank and never has.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

No, they are not. Not even close. BU mayyybe but not Northeastern and definitely not Tufts.

Agree that Tufts is not a safety for anybody--especially without showing previous interest, huge yield protection there. However, Northeastern and BU are 100% safeties for a candidate like OPs son. I guy, from Sidwell or St. Albans (assuming it's one of those-if it's GDS, Burke, or Maret, it's true, those won't have quite the same rate of acceptance). But those grades put a kid at the top 15% of StA or Sidwell.

OP here. It's not Sidwell or StA. It's one of the other 3 you identified.

He does have Tufts on his list. His college counselor advises that Tufts is definitely not a safety for anyone.

Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. Reading carefully and taking notes!

Oh, well, that does change whether these are safeties. Tufts is a definite reach, and I would say Northeastern may be a target, definitely not a safety. BU may be closer (I think previous poster is confusin BU with BC).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

No, they are not. Not even close. BU mayyybe but not Northeastern and definitely not Tufts.

Agree that Tufts is not a safety for anybody--especially without showing previous interest, huge yield protection there. However, Northeastern and BU are 100% safeties for a candidate like OPs son. I guy, from Sidwell or St. Albans (assuming it's one of those-if it's GDS, Burke, or Maret, it's true, those won't have quite the same rate of acceptance). But those grades put a kid at the top 15% of StA or Sidwell.

OP here. It's not Sidwell or StA. It's one of the other 3 you identified.

He does have Tufts on his list. His college counselor advises that Tufts is definitely not a safety for anyone.

Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. Reading carefully and taking notes!

Oh, well, that does change whether these are safeties. Tufts is a definite reach, and I would say Northeastern may be a target, definitely not a safety. BU may be closer (I think previous poster is confusin BU with BC).

BU's acceptance rate is in the teens. Both BU and BC are roughly in reach territory, albeit low reach rather than super reach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

Your absurdly ill-informed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Target/safety would be case western
Likely safety Brandeis (although maybe it’s too small?)
True safety Belmont (it’s a pretty campus near Vandy)

Brandeis is small and it's not really in a college town. I think Tufts, BU, and Northeastern would be better if he's interested in the urban or college city/town lifestyle.

I’m what world are Tufts, BU and NE safeties for this applicant?

From a rigorous DC private (Sidwell or similar) they are safeties. It's a different world than public.
With only three B+ grades he is likely top 20% in the class, maybe even top 10%.

No, they are not. Not even close. BU mayyybe but not Northeastern and definitely not Tufts.

Agree that Tufts is not a safety for anybody--especially without showing previous interest, huge yield protection there. However, Northeastern and BU are 100% safeties for a candidate like OPs son. I guy, from Sidwell or St. Albans (assuming it's one of those-if it's GDS, Burke, or Maret, it's true, those won't have quite the same rate of acceptance). But those grades put a kid at the top 15% of StA or Sidwell.

GDS is the peer of StA and Sidwell as far as acceptance rates.

I agree with others that Brown and Chicago are very, very different schools besides that they're both in cities and about the same size. He needs to look a little deeper into what he wants out of college. Look at the Fiske Guide.

Mid-size schools my GDS kid with similar stats was told to look at were

William & Mary, Richmond, Miami, Villanova, Lehigh, Rochester, Case, Bucknell, SMU, Santa Clara, GW, American, TCU, Pepperdine