Why is enhanced security needed for MCPS athletic events?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-SRO, but if you aren't going to have SROs, then make sure you at least double security. Those poor people are understaffed and exhausted.

SROs DON’T GO TO FOOTBALL GAMES!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Life without the SROs

SRO's don't go to football games

They used to! They often went to their away games too. They put in a lot more than their 40 hour weeks.

No they didn’t. They literally take the job because they want a 9-5 job and are not good on the street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/more-police-counselors-will-be-at-seneca-valley-high-to-address-fighting/

Fighting between students at a football game. I think it is interesting that middle school and elementary school students are banned without a parent. Makes me wonder how many kids were attending games late at night without parental supervision.

The elementary school kids is a real head scratcher. Was it just one kid and now all kids are banned I can’t imagine hordes of elementary schoolers going to games.

Does anyone think it's strange or inappropriate for middle schoolers to go to games by themselves? I could say the second about upper elementary, bit i recognize I'm probably an outlier there. I can't imagine a middle schooler going and staying with parents, though.

They are presumably not going to games by themselves. Just without a parent. Why would that be strange or inappropriate?

I personally think this is fine, too. I've seen a lot of parents dropping off a mob of 6th or 7th graders and picking them up at the end of the game and frankly, weighing the option of doing the same for my 7th grader this evening. I should say, though, that I have one who graduated HS last year and when her (then) MS sister asked to go to a game one time couple of years ago the HSer told me not to let her go because she would 'get beat up.' I'm sure HSer was exaggerating for effect, but she followed up saying there tend to be a lot of small skirmishes and there are kids who would target younger ones for bullying and it's not as safe as I would assume it to be in terms of sending a younger kid unaccompanied. And this was like 3 years ago, so if it's gotten worse this year then I'd recommend some thought before you send two 6th graders alone.

I also think it's fine for middle school students (especially 8th graders) to go to high school football games with friends. They should be a safe place for kids this age to gather without parental supervision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-SRO, but if you aren't going to have SROs, then make sure you at least double security. Those poor people are understaffed and exhausted.

SROs DON’T GO TO FOOTBALL GAMES!

They do but often run away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/more-police-counselors-will-be-at-seneca-valley-high-to-address-fighting/

Fighting between students at a football game. I think it is interesting that middle school and elementary school students are banned without a parent. Makes me wonder how many kids were attending games late at night without parental supervision.

The elementary school kids is a real head scratcher. Was it just one kid and now all kids are banned I can’t imagine hordes of elementary schoolers going to games.

Does anyone think it's strange or inappropriate for middle schoolers to go to games by themselves? I could say the second about upper elementary, bit i recognize I'm probably an outlier there. I can't imagine a middle schooler going and staying with parents, though.

They are presumably not going to games by themselves. Just without a parent. Why would that be strange or inappropriate?

I personally think this is fine, too. I've seen a lot of parents dropping off a mob of 6th or 7th graders and picking them up at the end of the game and frankly, weighing the option of doing the same for my 7th grader this evening[b]. I should say, though, that I have one who graduated HS last year and when her (then) MS sister asked to go to a game one time couple of years ago the HSer told me not to let her go because she would 'get beat up.' I'm sure HSer was exaggerating for effect, but she followed up saying there tend to be a lot of small skirmishes and there are kids who would target younger ones for bullying and it's not as safe as I would assume it to be in terms of sending a younger kid unaccompanied. And this was like 3 years ago, so if it's gotten worse this year then I'd recommend some thought before you send two 6th graders alone.

I guess you didn't get the memo dummy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/more-police-counselors-will-be-at-seneca-valley-high-to-address-fighting/

Fighting between students at a football game. I think it is interesting that middle school and elementary school students are banned without a parent. Makes me wonder how many kids were attending games late at night without parental supervision.

The elementary school kids is a real head scratcher. Was it just one kid and now all kids are banned I can’t imagine hordes of elementary schoolers going to games.

Does anyone think it's strange or inappropriate for middle schoolers to go to games by themselves? I could say the second about upper elementary, bit i recognize I'm probably an outlier there. I can't imagine a middle schooler going and staying with parents, though.

They are presumably not going to games by themselves. Just without a parent. Why would that be strange or inappropriate?

I personally think this is fine, too. I've seen a lot of parents dropping off a mob of 6th or 7th graders and picking them up at the end of the game and frankly, weighing the option of doing the same for my 7th grader this evening[b]. I should say, though, that I have one who graduated HS last year and when her (then) MS sister asked to go to a game one time couple of years ago the HSer told me not to let her go because she would 'get beat up.' I'm sure HSer was exaggerating for effect, but she followed up saying there tend to be a lot of small skirmishes and there are kids who would target younger ones for bullying and it's not as safe as I would assume it to be in terms of sending a younger kid unaccompanied. And this was like 3 years ago, so if it's gotten worse this year then I'd recommend some thought before you send two 6th graders alone.

I guess you didn't get the memo dummy

"changes MAY include..."

"MCPS and county leadership will review each large event to determine the necessary safety measures and those will be communicated by the school."

This hasn't been made policy across the board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/more-police-counselors-will-be-at-seneca-valley-high-to-address-fighting/

Fighting between students at a football game. I think it is interesting that middle school and elementary school students are banned without a parent. Makes me wonder how many kids were attending games late at night without parental supervision.

The elementary school kids is a real head scratcher. Was it just one kid and now all kids are banned I can’t imagine hordes of elementary schoolers going to games.

Does anyone think it's strange or inappropriate for middle schoolers to go to games by themselves? I could say the second about upper elementary, bit i recognize I'm probably an outlier there. I can't imagine a middle schooler going and staying with parents, though.

They are presumably not going to games by themselves. Just without a parent. Why would that be strange or inappropriate?

I personally think this is fine, too. I've seen a lot of parents dropping off a mob of 6th or 7th graders and picking them up at the end of the game and frankly, weighing the option of doing the same for my 7th grader this evening[b]. I should say, though, that I have one who graduated HS last year and when her (then) MS sister asked to go to a game one time couple of years ago the HSer told me not to let her go because she would 'get beat up.' I'm sure HSer was exaggerating for effect, but she followed up saying there tend to be a lot of small skirmishes and there are kids who would target younger ones for bullying and it's not as safe as I would assume it to be in terms of sending a younger kid unaccompanied. And this was like 3 years ago, so if it's gotten worse this year then I'd recommend some thought before you send two 6th graders alone.

I guess you didn't get the memo dummy

"changes MAY include..."

"MCPS and county leadership will review each large event to determine the necessary safety measures and those will be communicated by the school."

This hasn't been made policy across the board.

Possibly closing concessions I'd a maybe. Requiring student ID is a definite

Increasing the presence of police officers;
Increasing the number of MCPS security personnel, as well as school and central office administrative staff;
Enhancing lighting where necessary;
Possibly limiting the number of attendees, rescheduling events to weekend days, and/or changing event start times;
Requiring student IDs to attend and requiring elementary and middle school students to be accompanied by a parent or guardian; and
Potentially closing concession stands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because kids at certain schools are bringing weapons.
Because parents from certain schools are confronting athletes.
Because parents from certain schools are allowing young children to go by themselves (if they even know where they are)
Because there have always been fights but they are becoming more frequent.
Because it's not safe to even go to a football game anymore.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/more-police-counselors-will-be-at-seneca-valley-high-to-address-fighting/

Fighting between students at a football game. I think it is interesting that middle school and elementary school students are banned without a parent. Makes me wonder how many kids were attending games late at night without parental supervision.

The elementary school kids is a real head scratcher. Was it just one kid and now all kids are banned I can’t imagine hordes of elementary schoolers going to games.

Does anyone think it's strange or inappropriate for middle schoolers to go to games by themselves? I could say the second about upper elementary, bit i recognize I'm probably an outlier there. I can't imagine a middle schooler going and staying with parents, though.

They are presumably not going to games by themselves. Just without a parent. Why would that be strange or inappropriate?

I personally think this is fine, too. I've seen a lot of parents dropping off a mob of 6th or 7th graders and picking them up at the end of the game and frankly, weighing the option of doing the same for my 7th grader this evening. I should say, though, that I have one who graduated HS last year and when her (then) MS sister asked to go to a game one time couple of years ago the HSer told me not to let her go because she would 'get beat up.' I'm sure HSer was exaggerating for effect, but she followed up saying there tend to be a lot of small skirmishes and there are kids who would target younger ones for bullying and it's not as safe as I would assume it to be in terms of sending a younger kid unaccompanied. And this was like 3 years ago, so if it's gotten worse this year then I'd recommend some thought before you send two 6th graders alone.

I also think it's fine for middle school students (especially 8th graders) to go to high school football games with friends. They should be a safe place for kids this age to gather without parental supervision.

Not any more, sadly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is too long. Are W kids bringing knives to football games now?

No, the Whitman student brought it to morning drop-off:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-at-churchill-high-brought-knife-to-school-police-say/

Since there are no SROs any more, parents and students had to intervene when he brandished the knife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-SRO, but if you aren't going to have SROs, then make sure you at least double security. Those poor people are understaffed and exhausted.

SROs DON’T GO TO FOOTBALL GAMES!

BUT MANY OF US INSIST ON HAVING THEM WHEREVER THERE ARE KIDS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is too long. Are W kids bringing knives to football games now?

No, the Whitman student brought it to morning drop-off:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-at-churchill-high-brought-knife-to-school-police-say/

Since there are no SROs any more, parents and students had to intervene when he brandished the knife.

SROs more often than not turn tail when faced with any real danger. This is exactly what happened at Parkland. They are not a reliable solution to this problem. One remedy is to remove kids like this from the general population.

[Anonymous]

This is happening because parents have failed the kids. It starts at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is too long. Are W kids bringing knives to football games now?

No, the Whitman student brought it to morning drop-off:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-at-churchill-high-brought-knife-to-school-police-say/

Since there are no SROs any more, parents and students had to intervene when he brandished the knife.

SROs more often than not turn tail when faced with any real danger. This is exactly what happened at Parkland. They are not a reliable solution to this problem. One remedy is to remove kids like this from the general population.

So because one SRO turned tail during a mass shooting, we should get rid of all SROs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is too long. Are W kids bringing knives to football games now?

No, the Whitman student brought it to morning drop-off:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/student-at-churchill-high-brought-knife-to-school-police-say/

Since there are no SROs any more, parents and students had to intervene when he brandished the knife.

SROs more often than not turn tail when faced with any real danger. This is exactly what happened at Parkland. They are not a reliable solution to this problem. One remedy is to remove kids like this from the general population.

So because one SRO turned tail during a mass shooting, we should get rid of all SROs?

Bizarre and flawed reasoning, agree.