Why was the thread on the sexual assault at a Loudoun county school deleted?

Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail says that they confirmed it was the same person.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10083783/Loudoun-County-father-arrested-school-meeting-says-daughter-raped-boy-girls-bathroom.html

"The boy was charged with sodomy for the alleged assault on Smith's daughter in May, but the sheriff's department did not release details of it at the time. The same boy was charged on October 7 with assaulting a different girl in a different school. A sheriff's spokesman confirmed to DailyMail.com that it was the same boy, but they could not reveal his identity "


If you believe the Daily Mail, which I don’t. Do you really think the sheriff’s spokesperson confirmed this to the Daily Mail but nobody else?

Why have no charges been announced with regard to the alleged first assault? Supposedly, there was a report and they have the alleged perp in hand.


I believe Luke Rosiak who originally broke the story. He’s my neighbor. The reason you don’t is because he’s conservative.


No, I don't believe him because he wrote a series of articles about Imran Awan that turned out to be false. Those articles resulted in considerable harassment against Awan and his family (protesters even went to his kids' school and harassed them).


Please show me evidence of falsehood. Thanks.
Anonymous
Can we discuss this? I think this deserves some research/analysis:

“Buta Biberaj, (Loudon) county’s progressive, top elected prosecutor, who has close ties to the school board’s most liberal members, appeared in court to personally prosecute Smith for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Biberaj ran on a platform of ending ‘mass incarceration,’ but she wanted to put Smith in jail for the misdemeanors.”

jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:Please show me evidence of falsehood. Thanks.


Rosiak wrote a series of articles about Imran Awan that contained many false allegations. See this article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/ex-congressional-it-staffer-set-to-be-sentenced-after-prosecutors-debunk-conspiracy-theories/2018/08/21/0b1006ee-a4b1-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html

"In releasing Imran Awan, 38, U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan read aloud passages of court filings in which federal prosecutors debunked allegations promulgated on right-leaning news sites and fanned by President Trump on Twitter that suggested Awan was a Pakistani operative who secretly compromised computer files with cover from House Democrats."

While the false allegations appeared on many right-wing news sites, Rosiak was the original source.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss this? I think this deserves some research/analysis:

“Buta Biberaj, (Loudon) county’s progressive, top elected prosecutor, who has close ties to the school board’s most liberal members, appeared in court to personally prosecute Smith for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Biberaj ran on a platform of ending ‘mass incarceration,’ but she wanted to put Smith in jail for the misdemeanors.”



Assuming this quote is factual, yes (you don't provide a source). But, the discussion should not divert to discussing Smith's unsubstantiated allegation.

To be clear, if the allegation is subsequently confirmed, then everyone is free to discuss it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail says that they confirmed it was the same person.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10083783/Loudoun-County-father-arrested-school-meeting-says-daughter-raped-boy-girls-bathroom.html

"The boy was charged with sodomy for the alleged assault on Smith's daughter in May, but the sheriff's department did not release details of it at the time. The same boy was charged on October 7 with assaulting a different girl in a different school. A sheriff's spokesman confirmed to DailyMail.com that it was the same boy, but they could not reveal his identity "


If you believe the Daily Mail, which I don’t. Do you really think the sheriff’s spokesperson confirmed this to the Daily Mail but nobody else?

Why have no charges been announced with regard to the alleged first assault? Supposedly, there was a report and they have the alleged perp in hand.


I believe Luke Rosiak who originally broke the story. He’s my neighbor. The reason you don’t is because he’s conservative.


Wow! Haha! Did you know your neighbor wrote false articles about somebody?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss this? I think this deserves some research/analysis:

“Buta Biberaj, (Loudon) county’s progressive, top elected prosecutor, who has close ties to the school board’s most liberal members, appeared in court to personally prosecute Smith for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Biberaj ran on a platform of ending ‘mass incarceration,’ but she wanted to put Smith in jail for the misdemeanors.”



What is that quote from?

I find the recall petition concerning Biberaj to be bad faith and beyond the pale. But, you know, that's par for the course for people who call themselves "conservative" today. The completely irony of whining about Soros funding her campaign and then using dark money to underwrite a silly recall campaign.

In any case, it makes perfect sense to prosecute Smith to see he was jailed. Smith needs to be made an example of -- the good people of Loudoun County are sick and tired of these outside agitators coming into our communities and carrying on at school board meetings in the way Smith did. It's like you think what happened on Jan. 6 was acceptable behavior for expressing your political views. It was not.

Loudoun voted overwhelmingly for Biden. Jennifer Wexton has won multiple terms in office. This is a bright blue county. If and when conservatives can express themselves in a civil manner, we'd be happy to hear what they have to say. But so long as they carry on like lunatics with belligerent behavior at school board meetings over imaginary issues and engage in trying to recall duly elected officials simply because they don't like that they're of a different political party than their own -- no, we won't have that anymore. You can go crawl back under your rock. You are not empowered.
Anonymous
Jeff used to surgically remove offensive posts. And leave the content. That is a better way. This is a really sad but important topic. Deleting it in its entirety seems very politically convenient.
Anonymous
Also it is being reported by WTOP. Just saying.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:Jeff used to surgically remove offensive posts. And leave the content. That is a better way. This is a really sad but important topic. Deleting it in its entirety seems very politically convenient.


Unfortunately, in the case of these threads there was no way to surgically remove inappropriate posts.

Again, why is nobody discussing the confirmed allegation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jeff used to surgically remove offensive posts. And leave the content. That is a better way. This is a really sad but important topic. Deleting it in its entirety seems very politically convenient.



Why is this an "important topic?" Why is it any more significant than other assaults in schools?

If you want to discuss assaults in schools, I'm all for it. But I don't think that's the motivation behind people demanding Smith's story be accepted as gospel.

I think Jeff should lock this thread.
Anonymous
I full heartedly believe transgender girls should be allowed to use the ladies room.

But I am horrified at the thought of a local school system trying to cover up a rape allegation. And the people trying to discredit the victim because it seemingly conflicts with their agenda. These discussions may be ugly but they need to be allowed.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff used to surgically remove offensive posts. And leave the content. That is a better way. This is a really sad but important topic. Deleting it in its entirety seems very politically convenient.


Unfortunately, in the case of these threads there was no way to surgically remove inappropriate posts.

Again, why is nobody discussing the confirmed allegation?


Well, we’ve posted that information here but you deleted it.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:I full heartedly believe transgender girls should be allowed to use the ladies room.

But I am horrified at the thought of a local school system trying to cover up a rape allegation. And the people trying to discredit the victim because it seemingly conflicts with their agenda. These discussions may be ugly but they need to be allowed.


If you believe that the school system is trying to cover up a rape allegation, then you must believe that the police and prosecutors are also trying to cover it up. What is more likely, that there is a fairly large conspiracy among Loudon County officials to engage in a cover-up or a father, his lawyer, and a partisan reporter with a history of false reporting are not telling the truth?
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff used to surgically remove offensive posts. And leave the content. That is a better way. This is a really sad but important topic. Deleting it in its entirety seems very politically convenient.


Unfortunately, in the case of these threads there was no way to surgically remove inappropriate posts.

Again, why is nobody discussing the confirmed allegation?


Well, we’ve posted that information here but you deleted it.


It was included in thread primarily devoted to the other allegation. You have all kinds of time to post here but no ability to start a thread about a confirmed allegation? Forgive me if I am skeptical that concerns about sexual assault are your prime motivator.
Anonymous
Fox News says they talked to the Sheriff's office and confirmed a May 28 incident.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/loudoun-county-parents-demand-superintendent-resign-over-alleged-sexual-assaults

'"We can confirm a May 28, 2021 case that involved a thorough 2-month-long investigation that was conducted to determine the facts of the case prior to arrest," the sheriff’s office told Fox News. "This case is still pending court proceedings. The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office is not able to provide any documents that pertain to a pending case." The sheriff's office confirmed that the case involved sexual assault.'

They were not able to get the office to confirm that it was the same individual.
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