CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

[Anonymous]

I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

There is real stuff that is happening to people and they are dying and won't be looking forward to Easter decorations and hunting for eggs. People get over not going to prom or graduation. They don't get over dying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear.
I'm sick of it.

Correct. That is definitely NOT the choice.

[Anonymous]

Im A-ok with Trump and his family walking in grocery stores, kissing babies, shaking hands, posing for pictures with MAGA hats. In fact they should go all out for their reelection campaign and hold huge rallies, give in-studio interviews to FoxNews. It is all well and good because they are bold.

I'll be home. I am meek and I have my books to keep me company.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

WTF you are out of your mind, uneducated fool. None of the things you mention take precedence over lives that can be saved. I am ashamed to call myself an American alongside people like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

I admire you. So many things to worry about.. all so important..

Because you know, at the end of the day it is much better to be sick of it then to be sick by CV.
You are saying things now, but did you experience the other thing to truly know the trade off?
If all people will get sick at once, you.. no matter how healthy you are, if you will get flu or cold
at the same time as CV your system might to overboard and you might need a ventilator and
then what?

Yes, all those things you said.. beautiful things.. but pail in comparison with a funeral.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

Do you think your daughter will be more heartbroken if some of her relatives die?

Do you realize that when we talk about overwhelmed hospital staff we're talking about patients dying, not just nurses that are a little tired.

You sound like a child.

+1

+1
PP is perhaps young and never suffered a real loss. i mean who can be heartbroken because of easter plans gone awry? this, as thousands are dying around us. it’s just boggles the mind.

[Anonymous]

Just saw report that 26yo financial systems specialist at IMF in DC has died of covid-19. So sad.

[Anonymous]

I saw an interview with a nurse in Italy (northern part) who says that at her hospital they have basically stopped counting / reporting the dead for now. They are so tired, overworked and exhausted that they are just getting through each shift. They will figure out the count and reporting when they have time and staff to do it. Death has become so much a part of their everyday activity it just doesn't carry the significance it did at the start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw an interview with a nurse in Italy (northern part) who says that at her hospital they have basically stopped counting / reporting the dead for now. They are so tired, overworked and exhausted that they are just getting through each shift. They will figure out the count and reporting when they have time and staff to do it. Death has become so much a part of their everyday activity it just doesn't carry the significance it did at the start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

So 5 percent of us have to drown in our own liquid-filled lungs on the floor of a converted gymn-cum-hospital so that your daughter can munch on her Jeebus-buiscuits? No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

So 5 percent of us have to drown in our own liquid-filled lungs on the floor of a converted gymn-cum-hospital so that your daughter can munch on her Jeebus-buiscuits? No thanks.

There are ways to say that without being disrespectful of others’ religious traditions. I think the OP is ridiculously entitled, but she doesn’t represent the attitude and priorities of most Christians. Why insult all people for whom the Eucharist is sacred to score a point on one silly person who just happens to be Christian? OP is as worried it seems about grandparents not getting to play bingo at the senior center.
I’m not Jewish, but I know my child is sad to miss the annual big Passover Seder with her dad’s family. I’m not mocking her for mourning the loss of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

Read about the family in NJ where 3 have died and 4 are ill (3-very) after a family dinner. Would you really risk that for your family???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

Healthcare worker here. Opening up by Easter would be disastrous. Have you seen the estimates, even conservative, of what this will do to our healthcare system? Understand this doesn't just affect the sick, but the people who need basic routine medical care and the system is too overburdened to get it. Have you seen what is happening in Italy? Are you prepared to die? Are you prepared to say goodbye to some of your loved ones? Patients in ICU in my hospital are mostly under age 60 and without significant prior medical history other than asthma or smoking.

We are at war. But in this war you just have to stay home, not worry about bombs being dropped. The bullets you dodge are touching the virus. It is not so hard for you to do your part in this war as it is in real wars with bombs and bullets. Grow up. Man up. Chin up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

It's okay to vent, but no, none of these things should prevail over human life. I'm Catholic too, and life is preeminent over ritual. And your young daughter will benefit far more if she has parents and grandparents in the years to come. Maybe explain to her the sacrifices Jesus made for us and why we celebrate Easter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick and tired of the way this gets framed as a choice between economy/GDP vs health. THAT IS NOT IT AT ALL. The choice is between real life vs living in fear. The people who are criticizing the shutdowns and school closures and cancellation of Easter are not doing it because they worship the GDP over people's lives. They do it because THEY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES. They care about their high school senior who won't have graduation or prom. They care about their second grader who won't have First Communion. They care about their high school junior who can't take the SATs. They care about their middle schooler who is cut off completely from the teaching he/she needs. They care about their elderly parents who are being told they can't go exercise at the community center, or can't see their only friends. I have been told I can't visit my Dad, who is in an elder rehab care center, because of COVID-19 fears.

This is real stuff that is happening to people, and we are being told to accept it because otherwise hospitals and nurses might get overwhelmed. I'm sick of it.

My daughter -- 7 years old -- has been making Easter decorations for two weeks and preparing for the big Easter dinner we normally host, with grandparents and cousins and aunts and uncles. She is actually excited about Easter Mass. She wants to hunt for Easter eggs and have fun with her cousins. It is heartbreaking to tell her this might not happen. The President is absolutely correct to say that this crap needs to end by Easter.

I'm sick of it.

Do you think your daughter will be more heartbroken if some of her relatives die?

Do you realize that when we talk about overwhelmed hospital staff we're talking about patients dying, not just nurses that are a little tired.

You sound like a child.

+1

+1
PP is perhaps young and never suffered a real loss. i mean who can be heartbroken because of easter plans gone awry? this, as thousands are dying around us. it’s just boggles the mind.

+2. That PP sounds astoundingly selfish and shortsighted. She also sounds like one of those “magical childhood” proponents. We’ve explained to our 8yo what’s going on, and she gets the sacrifice for the greater good. She understands that Grandma can’t come visit right from FL now because we don’t want to get her sick, or anyone else.