UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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He doesn’t seem like he was taking care of himself. He looks way skinnier in the new photos than the old ones.

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Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

Are you willing to commit perjury to get on the jury in the first place? Because it will require that.

Sure. Prove I perjured myself. You cannot.

You’re right. But having picked about 15 criminal juries, I’ve looked a lot of potential jurors in the eye. People have a much harder time lying when they’re standing alone in front of a judge, a prosecutor, and a defense attorney than you might think.

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I feel so much empathy for his family. How devastatingly tragic.

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Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

Are you willing to commit perjury to get on the jury in the first place? Because it will require that.

hopefully you will be truthful in voir dire (sp) and not be put on the jury.

murderers need to be penalized..

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Selecting a jury is going to be tough. Who hasn't had negative experiences with health insurance out there? I wouldn't want to be on that jury.

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Anonymous wrote:Selecting a jury is going to be tough. Who hasn't had negative experiences with health insurance out there? I wouldn't want to be on that jury.

If it goes to trial and verdict, they'll deliberate in under a day.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a link that suggests his family is loaded or owns assisted living facilities? A quick Google showed just a John Mangione as the administrator of a nursing home but that’s not typically the owner. Where are people getting this?

The mom lives and works in dallas as a nurse.
Divorced?

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Can anyone decipher his career/LinkedIn? Shouldn't a good looking extremely smart prep school kid with an Ivy BA (and MA?) in computer science be making major cash by age 27? Or be the founder of some startup or app with a huge VC valuation?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel so much empathy for his family. How devastatingly tragic.

Which family?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a link that suggests his family is loaded or owns assisted living facilities? A quick Google showed just a John Mangione as the administrator of a nursing home but that’s not typically the owner. Where are people getting this?

Smells like a (right wing) disinformation campaign trying to blunt the kid's viral popularity.

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Anonymous wrote:AP: It’s something Will Flanary, a Portland-based ophthalmologist and comedian with a large social media following, saw online a lot in the shooting’s immediate aftermath and found very telling.

“It’s zero sympathy,” he said. “And the lesson to take away from that is not, ‘Let’s shame people for celebrating a murder.’ No, it’s: ‘Look at the amount of anger that people have toward this system that’s taken advantage of people and do something to try to fix that.’”

Flanary’s content, published under the name Dr. Glaucomflecken, started out as niche eye doctor jokes and a way to cope with his own experiences with two cancer diagnoses and a sudden cardiac arrest. But it has evolved, featuring character skits that call attention to and satirize the decisions of large health insurers, including UnitedHealthcare.

He said he’s never seen conversations around health insurance policy take off the way they did this week — and he hopes these new voices can help bring about change.

“I’m always talking about how powerful social media can be with advocacy,” he said, “because it really is the only way to put a significant amount of pressure on these corporations who are doing bad things for patients.”

I saw dr. Flanary/Glaucomflenken in person some months ago. He brought up some particular video he'd done that embarrassed one of the big insurance companies--it might have been UHC but can't remember for sure, it was not one of the Blues. They reversed something they were doing, and he was big about people making noise. I'm a bit surprised the AP article doesn't quote him saying something about not using murder to get social media to pay attention.

Exactly: Give in to the bully, give in to the temper tantruming people.

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Anonymous wrote:he looks like he had an AMAZING life.
What went wrong???????

Got radicalized by anti-establishment radicals including climate activists. They’re looking to see if he had ties to antifa.

DP. I don’t think so. I think he lost his job and health insurance. The back X-rays on his FB with pins will be preexisting if there is a gap in coverage.

Special enrollment, ACA, if no money and you're in a medicaid expansion state you get coverage. If you have more income than the expansion allows you still get tax credit. He'd be smart enough to know this stuff.

Plus, people who end up with big problems with their back usually shoot the doctor.

Pre existing conditions no longer exist under the ACA laws.

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Anonymous wrote:This trial is going to be a circus.

He’s going to take a plea.

Yeah no way this goes to trial unless he pleads insanity and even then very good chance of a plea.

Crime is on video, footage of him at Starbucks, and they found the gun and the fake idea he used to check into the NYC hostel PLUS a 3-page "manifesto" that will show motive, on him in Altoona.

He's cooked.

Probably, but that also means they don't need to offer him anything. Posters here may have fanciful ideas about jury nullification, but there's no way a jury doesn't convict on first degree murder here.

Yeah?

If I’m on that jury, I’ll hold out until it hangs. I don’t care what they say, I just won’t convict. Period.

Now, there’s plenty of people out there like me.

There were 2 jurors on a trial I served on who said nothing would change their minds to convict, unless they’d been standing there. A lot of people who say what pp above you did haven’t ever served on a jury, or it was a cut and dry case.

This will be the Gen Z OJ Simpson case. He has a massive amount of fangirls right now.

As usual, Gen Z makes Black culture mainstream.

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Anonymous wrote:Selecting a jury is going to be tough. Who hasn't had negative experiences with health insurance out there? I wouldn't want to be on that jury.

In NYC they’ll get away with secretly picking sympathetic people who have past ties with the industry.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel so much empathy for his family. How devastatingly tragic.

I suspect the family saw mental health symptoms in the prior couple of years.

I believe the guy he killed had several kids.