FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:To those who want a boundary change on this forum:
1. Do you have a child attending or soon attending high school?
2. Do you want your child to attend the current high school?

Yes and yes. The schools need to be rebalanced. Whether our HS pyramid is affected or not doesn’t matter to me, nor whether my kids get moved. I also expect the boundaries to be reviews at least every 10 years though major changes may not always be necessary.

I object to parents feeling entitled to a specific pyramid especially if they live in neighborhoods in the edges. This is a county wide district not some podunk city district that has a few high schools.

Tell me your kids are in a poor performing school without telling me that they are…

Tell me you think keeping like with like and property values are more important to you than educatio without telling me they are.

How does having higher performing students help underperforming students? The things that cause them to underperform are in their homes.

It doesn’t but neither do expansions or new schools. It does however utilize existing infrastructure to alleviate capacity burden on others.

Again, people should be far more outraged over what is going on (or not) and what’s coming next. The boundary study and POTENTIAL changes are smoke and mirrors to keep you distracted.

This thread is on a spool being wound round and round arguing the same things over and over and over and over. At the end of the day, it will not make a difference.

You sound like a Madison parent unhappy about the grading practices there but unlikely to be affected by potential boundary changes because your school already got a large addition. Others haven't been so lucky when it comes to facilities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To those who want a boundary change on this forum:
1. Do you have a child attending or soon attending high school?
2. Do you want your child to attend the current high school?

Yes and yes. The schools need to be rebalanced. Whether our HS pyramid is affected or not doesn’t matter to me, nor whether my kids get moved. I also expect the boundaries to be reviews at least every 10 years though major changes may not always be necessary.

I object to parents feeling entitled to a specific pyramid especially if they live in neighborhoods in the edges. This is a county wide district not some podunk city district that has a few high schools.

Tell me your kids are in a poor performing school without telling me that they are…

Tell me you think keeping like with like and property values are more important to you than educatio without telling me they are.

How does having higher performing students help underperforming students? The things that cause them to underperform are in their homes.

DP. This is not about helping the lower-achieving students at low-enrollment schools. Those students get more attention and often smaller classes at those schools. If you increase the enrollments at those schools, the neediest kids get less attention, not more.

The main constituency of this School Board are middle and upper-middle class families who buy in areas zoned for schools with lower average test scores. They think they are doing God's work by doing so and deserve to be rewarded by having other MC and UMC kids redistricted into their schools. This will reward them in two ways: (1) their MC and UMC kids will have more high-achieving peers, so their schools will have more academic electives and be able to offer more sessions of challenging classes; and (2) they will get an equity boost if they are homeowners.

The problem for these families and more generally for FCPS is that other MC and UMC families who thought their kids would attend other schools won't necessarily go along with the redistricting. Some will, but many won't, so they are inviting a vicious cycle where some groups of parents are constantly asking for a diminishing supply of high-achieving kids to be redistributed.

So off the mark. Get your head out of your rear. Those people don’t care whether boundaries change. They object to the entitlement that many show, demand, and often get. All are created equal, except some are more special.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire almost 200 page thread can be summed up with one of two (or both) statements:

"Oh no, I am racist!" or "Oh no, my home value!"

Can we lock it now?

No. It can be summed up in this way: leave it alone.

Or else what? The SB doesn’t need out permission. They needed and got enough votes to get their positions. I’m not a fan of theirs but this petty sniping is unproductive. Agree the thread needs to be shut down.

Did you grow up in Russia or something? We live in a democracy. No of course the SB doesn’t need our permission. But they are elected and we have every right to try communicate to our elected REPRESENTATIVES what we want them to do on our behalf. That’s how it works.

Right, but they should not just roll over to people that want to maintain their housing equity.

Weird take. Do you have no sense of community or do you just look at everything through the prism of an economic zero-sum game?

Do people really think that property values are the motive? Good grief. When a neighborhood was moved from Chantilly to Oakton, the residents were extremely upset. Why? They lived close to Chantilly and had an attachment to it. People ended up with kids in two different high schools--which is quite disruptive. Another neighborhood which initially had attended Oakton--then switched to Westfield--and then to South Lakes. This in a period of just a few years. If the School Board thinks that people are only motivated by property values, then they need to get out into the communities and the schools more.

People have LITERALLY said ad much in this thread, repeatedly.
People have different motivations, so that isn't everybody's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To those who want a boundary change on this forum:
1. Do you have a child attending or soon attending high school?
2. Do you want your child to attend the current high school?

Yes and yes. The schools need to be rebalanced. Whether our HS pyramid is affected or not doesn’t matter to me, nor whether my kids get moved. I also expect the boundaries to be reviews at least every 10 years though major changes may not always be necessary.

I object to parents feeling entitled to a specific pyramid especially if they live in neighborhoods in the edges. This is a county wide district not some podunk city district that has a few high schools.

Tell me your kids are in a poor performing school without telling me that they are…

Tell me you think keeping like with like and property values are more important to you than educatio without telling me they are.

How does having higher performing students help underperforming students? The things that cause them to underperform are in their homes.

DP. This is not about helping the lower-achieving students at low-enrollment schools. Those students get more attention and often smaller classes at those schools. If you increase the enrollments at those schools, the neediest kids get less attention, not more.

The main constituency of this School Board are middle and upper-middle class families who buy in areas zoned for schools with lower average test scores. They think they are doing God's work by doing so and deserve to be rewarded by having other MC and UMC kids redistricted into their schools. This will reward them in two ways: (1) their MC and UMC kids will have more high-achieving peers, so their schools will have more academic electives and be able to offer more sessions of challenging classes; and (2) they will get an equity boost if they are homeowners.

The problem for these families and more generally for FCPS is that other MC and UMC families who thought their kids would attend other schools won't necessarily go along with the redistricting. Some will, but many won't, so they are inviting a vicious cycle where some groups of parents are constantly asking for a diminishing supply of high-achieving kids to be redistributed.

So off the mark. Get your head out of your rear. Those people don’t care whether boundaries change. They object to the entitlement that many show, demand, and often get. All are created equal, except some are more special.

They are, in fact, the main proponents of boundary changes. Not many others want them.

And what you churlishly call "entitlement" is what others just think of as reasonable expectations. You couldn't wear your resentment on your sleeve more openly if you tried.

[Anonymous]

My guess is that --other than the SB, the only people that want the boundary changes are the parents in the poorer performing schools who want to pull in higher achieving students from other neighborhoods.

They want to take kids out of neighborhoods that have been in schools for over thirty years and place send them further away.
What is "right" about that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that --other than the SB, the only people that want the boundary changes are the parents in the poorer performing schools who want to pull in higher achieving students from other neighborhoods.

They want to take kids out of neighborhoods that have been in schools for over thirty years and place send them further away.
What is "right" about that?

Your guess is wrong. But that's what happens when you make guesses for people you know nothing about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that --other than the SB, the only people that want the boundary changes are the parents in the poorer performing schools who want to pull in higher achieving students from other neighborhoods.

They want to take kids out of neighborhoods that have been in schools for over thirty years and place send them further away.
What is "right" about that?

Your guess is wrong. But that's what happens when you make guesses for people you know nothing about.

DP. Maybe not everyone at the schools with lower average scores wants higher achieving kids redistricted into their schools. But some do, and they have an outsized influence on the current School Board. Marcia St. John-Cunning is basically their spirit animal, and she's far from alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is that --other than the SB, the only people that want the boundary changes are the parents in the poorer performing schools who want to pull in higher achieving students from other neighborhoods.

They want to take kids out of neighborhoods that have been in schools for over thirty years and place send them further away.
What is "right" about that?

Your guess is wrong. But that's what happens when you make guesses for people you know nothing about.

Then, why are they doing it? And, they should release the names of the people on the committee. Dollars to doughnuts they are there to protect their own neighborhoods.

This reeks of the South Lakes PTSA of 2008--picking and choosing the neighborhoods they wanted. With the support of Stu Gibson. The PTSA rejected "poorer" neighborhoods and picked the affluent ones. They wanted the wealthier Reston neighborhoods that went to Herndon High, but Herndon went ballistic. So, they went after Westfield neighborhoods successfully.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those who want a boundary change on this forum:
1. Do you have a child attending or soon attending high school?
2. Do you want your child to attend the current high school?

Yes and yes. The schools need to be rebalanced. Whether our HS pyramid is affected or not doesn’t matter to me, nor whether my kids get moved. I also expect the boundaries to be reviews at least every 10 years though major changes may not always be necessary.

I object to parents feeling entitled to a specific pyramid especially if they live in neighborhoods in the edges. This is a county wide district not some podunk city district that has a few high schools.

Tell me your kids are in a poor performing school without telling me that they are…

NP. My school is in a middle of the road pyramid. I'm not worried about whether is performs better or worse. I'm worried about overcrowding.

Literally and figuratively you find/seek comfort in mediocrity.

How did your parents raise you? So what if they are - did you need to wrote that out as a reponse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that --other than the SB, the only people that want the boundary changes are the parents in the poorer performing schools who want to pull in higher achieving students from other neighborhoods.

They want to take kids out of neighborhoods that have been in schools for over thirty years and place send them further away.
What is "right" about that?

Some kids might get redistricted to schools that are actually closer to their homes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that --other than the SB, the only people that want the boundary changes are the parents in the poorer performing schools who want to pull in higher achieving students from other neighborhoods.

They want to take kids out of neighborhoods that have been in schools for over thirty years and place send them further away.
What is "right" about that?

Some kids might get redistricted to schools that are actually closer to their homes.

My neighborhood already goes to the closest school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those who want a boundary change on this forum:
1. Do you have a child attending or soon attending high school?
2. Do you want your child to attend the current high school?

Yes and yes. The schools need to be rebalanced. Whether our HS pyramid is affected or not doesn’t matter to me, nor whether my kids get moved. I also expect the boundaries to be reviews at least every 10 years though major changes may not always be necessary.

I object to parents feeling entitled to a specific pyramid especially if they live in neighborhoods in the edges. This is a county wide district not some podunk city district that has a few high schools.

Tell me your kids are in a poor performing school without telling me that they are…

Tell me you think keeping like with like and property values are more important to you than educatio without telling me they are.

How does having higher performing students help underperforming students? The things that cause them to underperform are in their homes.

It doesn’t but neither do expansions or new schools. It does however utilize existing infrastructure to alleviate capacity burden on others.

Again, people should be far more outraged over what is going on (or not) and what’s coming next. The boundary study and POTENTIAL changes are smoke and mirrors to keep you distracted.

This thread is on a spool being wound round and round arguing the same things over and over and over and over. At the end of the day, it will not make a difference.

Well share with the class. What is it we should be focused on instead?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those who want a boundary change on this forum:
1. Do you have a child attending or soon attending high school?
2. Do you want your child to attend the current high school?

Yes and yes. The schools need to be rebalanced. Whether our HS pyramid is affected or not doesn’t matter to me, nor whether my kids get moved. I also expect the boundaries to be reviews at least every 10 years though major changes may not always be necessary.

I object to parents feeling entitled to a specific pyramid especially if they live in neighborhoods in the edges. This is a county wide district not some podunk city district that has a few high schools.

Tell me your kids are in a poor performing school without telling me that they are…

NP. My school is in a middle of the road pyramid. I'm not worried about whether is performs better or worse. I'm worried about overcrowding.

Literally and figuratively you find/seek comfort in mediocrity.

How did your parents raise you? So what if they are - did you need to wrote that out as a reponse?

I sleep well at night. Come after my kids and make an enemy is a pretty fundamental approach to life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that --other than the SB, the only people that want the boundary changes are the parents in the poorer performing schools who want to pull in higher achieving students from other neighborhoods.

They want to take kids out of neighborhoods that have been in schools for over thirty years and place send them further away.
What is "right" about that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those who want a boundary change on this forum:
1. Do you have a child attending or soon attending high school?
2. Do you want your child to attend the current high school?

Yes and yes. The schools need to be rebalanced. Whether our HS pyramid is affected or not doesn’t matter to me, nor whether my kids get moved. I also expect the boundaries to be reviews at least every 10 years though major changes may not always be necessary.

I object to parents feeling entitled to a specific pyramid especially if they live in neighborhoods in the edges. This is a county wide district not some podunk city district that has a few high schools.

Tell me your kids are in a poor performing school without telling me that they are…

Tell me you think keeping like with like and property values are more important to you than educatio without telling me they are.

How does having higher performing students help underperforming students? The things that cause them to underperform are in their homes.

It doesn’t but neither do expansions or new schools. It does however utilize existing infrastructure to alleviate capacity burden on others.

Again, people should be far more outraged over what is going on (or not) and what’s coming next. The boundary study and POTENTIAL changes are smoke and mirrors to keep you distracted.

This thread is on a spool being wound round and round arguing the same things over and over and over and over. At the end of the day, it will not make a difference.

Well share with the class. What is it we should be focused on instead?

I and others have said it several times already in this thread and older ones. It’s not worth repeating because you are distracted by boundary changes. It won’t matter whether you go to a so-called good or best school or not.