DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:what going dcua older age groups lost to Toronto FC, dcua u16 is considered the best of academies?


As someone who is not fond of DCU, RESULTS DON’T MATTER. I recently heard a guy from Sporting in Portugal talked about how their U19 would lose a lot because they are playing their best U17’s in the U19 division. We have no idea what the academies are doing with their teams.

It feels like a broken record as this point. Go to a monastery and search your inner soul on why your ego must win all of the time.

DCUA can lose every game in every bracket. If they produce 2-3 sellable players or 1st teamers in each age bracket versus almost everyone just going to college, the academy would be an overwhelming success. D1 is not a flex for an academy product. Kudos to you, but no where near a flex.

The DMV has the kids, parents and resources to succeed but the emperor has no clothes. As long as uneducated parents keep blindly sending their kids to DCUA and DCUA selects talented kids from uneducated families who don’t know how to take the next step, it will simply continue to be the way high-achieving parents with talented son get their sons into Princeton and Penn.



Are the parents with a kid at dcua and one at premier league club Bournemouth uneducated and blind?

How about the parents of the dcua kid who just completed a trial at Chelsea? They also uneducated and blind?

Maybe you mean the parents of the dcua kids playing for concacaf youth national teams being uneducated and blind


I'm saying all of those parents KNOW DCU is trash and are looking for ways to get their get out. But they use it to the best of their ability. And yes, many of those parents don't fully understand the system.

For instance, all of those said parents thinking a CONCACAF call up to another nations youth team would give them exposure and maybe increasing their chances of a USYNT call up not knowing they were killing their chances as a result because they cap tied their son and by the time a one time switch would be viable it will be too late. Yeah, a lot of ignorance even among people you think are successful.

Kid left DCU for Bournemouth because DCU wasted his time and youth years. How has that turned out?

Let me know how the "trial" at Chelsea went? With connections and politics anything can happen.

What you know for sure is that if you're at DCU for a long period of time, you will not be ready for a higher level of football. this has played out over the last few years consistently.
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Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]what going dcua older age groups lost to Toronto FC, dcua u16 is considered the best of academies?[/quote]

As someone who is not fond of DCU, RESULTS DON’T MATTER. I recently heard a guy from Sporting in Portugal talked about how their U19 would lose a lot because they are playing their best U17’s in the U19 division. We have no idea what the academies are doing with their teams.

It feels like a broken record as this point. Go to a monastery and search your inner soul on why your ego must win all of the time.

DCUA can lose every game in every bracket. If they produce 2-3 sellable players or 1st teamers in each age bracket versus almost everyone just going to college, the academy would be an overwhelming success. D1 is not a flex for an academy product. Kudos to you, but no where near a flex.

The DMV has the kids, parents and resources to succeed but the emperor has no clothes. As long as uneducated parents keep blindly sending their kids to DCUA and DCUA selects talented kids from uneducated families who don’t know how to take the next step, it will simply continue to be the way high-achieving parents with talented son get their sons into Princeton and Penn.

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Are the parents with a kid at dcua and one at premier league club Bournemouth uneducated and blind?

How about the parents of the dcua kid who just completed a trial at Chelsea? They also uneducated and blind?

Maybe you mean the parents of the dcua kids playing for concacaf youth national teams being uneducated and blind[/quote]

I'm saying all of those parents KNOW DCU is trash and are looking for ways to get their get out. But they use it to the best of their ability. And yes, many of those parents don't fully understand the system.

For instance, all of those said parents thinking a CONCACAF call up to another nations youth team would give them exposure and maybe increasing their chances of a USYNT call up not knowing they were killing their chances as a result because they cap tied their son and by the time a one time switch would be viable it will be too late. Yeah, a lot of ignorance even among people you think are successful.

Kid left DCU for Bournemouth because DCU wasted his time and youth years. How has that turned out?

Let me know how the "trial" at Chelsea went? With connections and politics anything can happen.

What you know for sure is that if you're at DCU for a long period of time, you will not be ready for a higher level of football. this has played out over the last few years consistently.
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You are just a bitter angry hater with an axe to grind

btw mister know it all, several national senior team players for multiple countries represented different countries at youth level. You don't know squat
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:what going dcua older age groups lost to Toronto FC, dcua u16 is considered the best of academies?


As someone who is not fond of DCU, RESULTS DON’T MATTER. I recently heard a guy from Sporting in Portugal talked about how their U19 would lose a lot because they are playing their best U17’s in the U19 division. We have no idea what the academies are doing with their teams.

It feels like a broken record as this point. Go to a monastery and search your inner soul on why your ego must win all of the time.

DCUA can lose every game in every bracket. If they produce 2-3 sellable players or 1st teamers in each age bracket versus almost everyone just going to college, the academy would be an overwhelming success. D1 is not a flex for an academy product. Kudos to you, but no where near a flex.

The DMV has the kids, parents and resources to succeed but the emperor has no clothes. As long as uneducated parents keep blindly sending their kids to DCUA and DCUA selects talented kids from uneducated families who don’t know how to take the next step, it will simply continue to be the way high-achieving parents with talented son get their sons into Princeton and Penn.



Are the parents with a kid at dcua and one at premier league club Bournemouth uneducated and blind?

How about the parents of the dcua kid who just completed a trial at Chelsea? They also uneducated and blind?

Maybe you mean the parents of the dcua kids playing for concacaf youth national teams being uneducated and blind


Yes, if they are run educated if they chose DCUA over Philly, Red Bulls or international opportunities.

We have those options.

Sit in your corner and enjoy your kid spending 45 minutes on the bus tomorrow while my kid get in 4k touches during your travel time.

😒
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]what going dcua older age groups lost to Toronto FC, dcua u16 is considered the best of academies?[/quote]

As someone who is not fond of DCU, RESULTS DON’T MATTER. I recently heard a guy from Sporting in Portugal talked about how their U19 would lose a lot because they are playing their best U17’s in the U19 division. We have no idea what the academies are doing with their teams.

It feels like a broken record as this point. Go to a monastery and search your inner soul on why your ego must win all of the time.

DCUA can lose every game in every bracket. If they produce 2-3 sellable players or 1st teamers in each age bracket versus almost everyone just going to college, the academy would be an overwhelming success. D1 is not a flex for an academy product. Kudos to you, but no where near a flex.

The DMV has the kids, parents and resources to succeed but the emperor has no clothes. As long as uneducated parents keep blindly sending their kids to DCUA and DCUA selects talented kids from uneducated families who don’t know how to take the next step, it will simply continue to be the way high-achieving parents with talented son get their sons into Princeton and Penn.

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Are the parents with a kid at dcua and one at premier league club Bournemouth uneducated and blind?

How about the parents of the dcua kid who just completed a trial at Chelsea? They also uneducated and blind?

Maybe you mean the parents of the dcua kids playing for concacaf youth national teams being uneducated and blind[/quote]

I'm saying all of those parents KNOW DCU is trash and are looking for ways to get their get out. But they use it to the best of their ability. And yes, many of those parents don't fully understand the system.

For instance, all of those said parents thinking a CONCACAF call up to another nations youth team would give them exposure and maybe increasing their chances of a USYNT call up not knowing they were killing their chances as a result because they cap tied their son and by the time a one time switch would be viable it will be too late. Yeah, a lot of ignorance even among people you think are successful.

Kid left DCU for Bournemouth because DCU wasted his time and youth years. How has that turned out?

Let me know how the "trial" at Chelsea went? With connections and politics anything can happen.

What you know for sure is that if you're at DCU for a long period of time, you will not be ready for a higher level of football. this has played out over the last few years consistently.
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You are just a bitter angry hater with an axe to grind

btw mister know it all, several national senior team players for multiple countries represented different countries at youth level. You don't know squat [/quote]

Good come back. 👍 The rules changed relatively recently about representing multiple nations even at the youth level. You're uneducated just like most. You're not on my level. Keep trying.
Anonymous
And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:what going dcua older age groups lost to Toronto FC, dcua u16 is considered the best of academies?


As someone who is not fond of DCU, RESULTS DON’T MATTER. I recently heard a guy from Sporting in Portugal talked about how their U19 would lose a lot because they are playing their best U17’s in the U19 division. We have no idea what the academies are doing with their teams.

It feels like a broken record as this point. Go to a monastery and search your inner soul on why your ego must win all of the time.

DCUA can lose every game in every bracket. If they produce 2-3 sellable players or 1st teamers in each age bracket versus almost everyone just going to college, the academy would be an overwhelming success. D1 is not a flex for an academy product. Kudos to you, but no where near a flex.

The DMV has the kids, parents and resources to succeed but the emperor has no clothes. As long as uneducated parents keep blindly sending their kids to DCUA and DCUA selects talented kids from uneducated families who don’t know how to take the next step, it will simply continue to be the way high-achieving parents with talented son get their sons into Princeton and Penn.



Are the parents with a kid at dcua and one at premier league club Bournemouth uneducated and blind?

How about the parents of the dcua kid who just completed a trial at Chelsea? They also uneducated and blind?

Maybe you mean the parents of the dcua kids playing for concacaf youth national teams being uneducated and blind


Yes, if they are run educated if they chose DCUA over Philly, Red Bulls or international opportunities.

We have those options.

Sit in your corner and enjoy your kid spending 45 minutes on the bus tomorrow while my kid get in 4k touches during your travel time.

😒


If you chose DCU over pretty much any other academy you've made a poor decision. It's that simple. It's not a serious academy. It's no better than pay to play in our area. What is so sad is that it should be better and our kids are missing out as a result. No one holds DCU accountable and this is why they don't have to be better
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors


My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:what going dcua older age groups lost to Toronto FC, dcua u16 is considered the best of academies?


As someone who is not fond of DCU, RESULTS DON’T MATTER. I recently heard a guy from Sporting in Portugal talked about how their U19 would lose a lot because they are playing their best U17’s in the U19 division. We have no idea what the academies are doing with their teams.

It feels like a broken record as this point. Go to a monastery and search your inner soul on why your ego must win all of the time.

DCUA can lose every game in every bracket. If they produce 2-3 sellable players or 1st teamers in each age bracket versus almost everyone just going to college, the academy would be an overwhelming success. D1 is not a flex for an academy product. Kudos to you, but no where near a flex.

The DMV has the kids, parents and resources to succeed but the emperor has no clothes. As long as uneducated parents keep blindly sending their kids to DCUA and DCUA selects talented kids from uneducated families who don’t know how to take the next step, it will simply continue to be the way high-achieving parents with talented son get their sons into Princeton and Penn.



Are the parents with a kid at dcua and one at premier league club Bournemouth uneducated and blind?

How about the parents of the dcua kid who just completed a trial at Chelsea? They also uneducated and blind?

Maybe you mean the parents of the dcua kids playing for concacaf youth national teams being uneducated and blind


Yes, if they are run educated if they chose DCUA over Philly, Red Bulls or international opportunities.

We have those options.

Sit in your corner and enjoy your kid spending 45 minutes on the bus tomorrow while my kid get in 4k touches during your travel time.

😒


If you chose DCU over pretty much any other academy you've made a poor decision. It's that simple. It's not a serious academy. It's no better than pay to play in our area. What is so sad is that it should be better and our kids are missing out as a result. No one holds DCU accountable and this is why they don't have to be better


Can't say this makes much or any sense

There is one professional academy in our area and only a few in the country.
There isn't a open door policy to take all who apply and there are only limited spots available at each one.

How can everyone with a kid on that level get into any academy they choose especially in a different part of the country?
Isn't every academy in an area with already many talented locals to choose from?

Why disrupt the kid and family to send your 12, 13, 14 year old to live away with strangers in an environment (MLS) that has very minimum successes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors


My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?


I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors


My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?


I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.


I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors


My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?


I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.


There isn't consistent training at DCU?
What are the players doing instead of training?

Which academy anywhere doesn't have turnover in both kids and coaches?
In America especially, where youth levels aren't as glorified as other true soccer countries, almost every youth level coach is padding their resume to move up to older groups and senior levels
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors


My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?


I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.


I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill


I think the bolded section above was an attempt at an answer.

Anonymous
Here's the most updated list of players from the DMV area that were rejected or cut from DCU Academy or chose to go to other academies and became high level successful professional players:

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors


My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?


I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.


I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill


DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors


My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?


I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.


I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill


DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .


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