DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

There isn't consistent training at DCU?
What are the players doing instead of training?

Which academy anywhere doesn't have turnover in both kids and coaches?
In America especially, where youth levels aren't as glorified as other true soccer countries, almost every youth level coach is padding their resume to move up to older groups and senior levels

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill

I think the bolded section above was an attempt at an answer.

[Anonymous]

Here's the most updated list of players from the DMV area that were rejected or cut from DCU Academy or chose to go to other academies and became high level successful professional players:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill

DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill

DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill

DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .

Then all the MLS Academies are selling lies

btw, I didn't know the academy had a fan base. Are they at all the academy games?

Can you share where you have the detailed information of all the academy players at dcu from the day they enter the academy and all their interactions with dcu staff and the milestones data of their progress or lack of?
(since you say you know they're not focused on progressing)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the most updated list of players from the DMV area that were rejected or cut from DCU Academy or chose to go to other academies and became high level successful professional players:

Is that a zero or a nil?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill

DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .

+1

Don’t worry guys, the vigilante pro DCUA poster will be here soon to say something to the effect that…

Doesn’t matter, academy is academy, ur kid should be so lucky to be at the level and they’re probably not.

The chances of going pro is very low.

Pull bootstraps up and just deal, everything is the player and parents fault.

We should have zero expectations.

I need verifiable facts and data for anything that opposes my views. And if you have them, they don’t count because I don’t consider them facts or data.

And so on and so forth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill

DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .

Then all the MLS Academies are selling lies

btw, I didn't know the academy had a fan base. Are they at all the academy games?

Can you share where you have the detailed information of all the academy players at dcu from the day they enter the academy and all their interactions with dcu staff and the milestones data of their progress or lack of?
(since you say you know they're not focused on progressing)

Ah, there he is. Like clockwork.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill

DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .

Then all the MLS Academies are selling lies

btw, I didn't know the academy had a fan base. Are they at all the academy games?

Can you share where you have the detailed information of all the academy players at dcu from the day they enter the academy and all their interactions with dcu staff and the milestones data of their progress or lack of?
(since you say you know they're not focused on progressing)

Ah, there he is. Like clockwork.

You're there like clockwork with nothing but 'because I said so'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And no one is bitter or angry or hating. Just exposing the lie DCU sold you and most other parents in the DMV. You should be thankful for this thread because without it, you'd have no idea how really poor DCU is comparatively because they are masterful at smoke and mirrors

My kid has no chance of being on that level, but what is dcu promising parents that is a lie that they can't deliver?
Is it in a contract?

I think it’s consistent training that will get them to the next level. There’s turnover at the academy and perhaps not a consistent training philosophy.

By entering an MLS academy, the academies will have rights to where you move next. In other words, they have a say on the terms of you leaving their academy. Maybe some have contracted out of these provisions by just paying for the training benefit of an academy? I don’t know if that is happening personally.

There’s an Austin FC 16 year old goal keeper who is apparently prevented from moving to another academy bc Austin is asking for a lot. Even though the leaving goalkeeper wants to leave due to change of coaching that has relegated them to backup goalkeeper despite otherwise stellar performances.

I think the anti-DCUA poster is concerned that players who don’t have as many choices (made by their circumstances won’t allow them to move to go to a different academy) are stuck with DCUA and don’t get the training and exposure they need to make it pro.

I do think there’s some merit to that with how they’ve handled recent homegrowns (eg, fletcher) and ppl blaming them for stunting their opportunities.

Personally, I think those with dual citizenships are going to try to move to Europe and just bypass MLS academies. I mean Cavan Sullivan should be in Europe by now, not playing MLSPro. Should Cavan pan out well and thrive once he moves at 18, more MLS academies will hopefully take trailing more seriously.

I believe the PP asked, what are the promises the previous PP is stating DC academy is making to parents that they can't fulfill

DCU is promising to develop your son to be a pro (the sole purpose of the academy) and actually not taking any real steps to do that. The PP said DCU is selling a lie. Which is true. The lie is that it is trying to produce pro players and about developing them. DCU is only about appeasing the MLS with the academy and if a pro develops great. If not, they don't care. There is no promotion relegation so it doesn't matter from a footballing perspective. DCUs business model is not selling youth players. It is milking the fan base. So at DCUs academy the players who are there aren't in a system that is focused on progressing them as players because their progress isn't a bottom line goal. It is a nice to have, not a need to have. At youth Academies that actually care about producing pros, the sale of youth players is part of their business. DCU doesn't share this vision as a club. .

Then all the MLS Academies are selling lies

btw, I didn't know the academy had a fan base. Are they at all the academy games?

Can you share where you have the detailed information of all the academy players at dcu from the day they enter the academy and all their interactions with dcu staff and the milestones data of their progress or lack of?
(since you say you know they're not focused on progressing)

Ah, there he is. Like clockwork.

You're there like clockwork with nothing but 'because I said so'

Ditto

[Anonymous]

Only in today's era of Fox news and internet conspiracy groups being accepted, would the people asking for facts and figures to collaborate biased emotional accusations and claims be considered the bad guys lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only in today's era of Fox news and internet conspiracy groups being accepted, would the people asking for facts and figures to collaborate biased emotional accusations and claims be considered the bad guys lol

Facts have been given. You've chosen to ignore them. Like fox news

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only in today's era of Fox news and internet conspiracy groups being accepted, would the people asking for facts and figures to collaborate biased emotional accusations and claims be considered the bad guys lol

Facts have been given. You've chosen to ignore them. Like fox news

Can Admin end this nonsense 😒

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only in today's era of Fox news and internet conspiracy groups being accepted, would the people asking for facts and figures to collaborate biased emotional accusations and claims be considered the bad guys lol

Fact 1: 3 pages ago, it was shared that DCU is THE ONLY MLS team without a 2nd team. If you don't know why this is anti-development, I can help you.

Fact 2: DCUA's academy starts @ U14. Conversely, Philly Union runs a juniors program at U9 and sponsors The Swag which is developing players from 4-8 to prepare for the juniors program. Red Bulls pre-academy starts at U10. Both Philly Union and Red Bulls academies have more players on the USMNT than DCUA.

Fact 3: DCUA Talent Center will host "Open Tryouts will take place on February 25, 2024" per the website on 9/15/25.

Fact 4: DCUA lists P2P clubs as a gateway into their academy. Bethesda is not a P2P program but has provided DC United with more academy players than PPA. Is it incompetent to not have a pathway with one of the most productive talent-producing clubs in the area? (I think P2P is a joke but that is my opinion and I am sticking to facts).

What are DCUA's facts that refute those above?