CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TY for posting that letter from the doctor at NY Pres. That is extremely upsetting. And why is it that he says that the manufacturer is "beginning to accelerate" production? DCUM posters (and anyone with any sense) were talking about the mask shortage in JANUARY. I remember someone posting that 3M was ramping up production and adding production shifts in the U.S. I don't know if they were making that up or what, but the idea that they were NOT accelerating production 2+ months ago is just horrifying. Why is everyone asleep at the switch? We had some many months to prepare.

VP Pence said that in a press briefing last week. They’re just lying about everything now.

Governors are begging for feds to step in and use Defense Production Act to ramp up productions of masks, other PPE, ventilators, etc, but Trump prefers to let states bid on the open market, against each other, so private sector can maximize profits.

This is happening RIGHT NOW.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/new-york-gov-cuomo-wants-federal-government-to-command-supplies-of-ventilators-and-masks-51584915722

We lost precious weeks in Jan and Feb because of his inaction, and we continue to lose time. We should’ve been making ventilators weeks ago. WHY ISN’T ANYONE DOING ANYTHING?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TY for posting that letter from the doctor at NY Pres. That is extremely upsetting. And why is it that he says that the manufacturer is "beginning to accelerate" production? DCUM posters (and anyone with any sense) were talking about the mask shortage in JANUARY. I remember someone posting that 3M was ramping up production and adding production shifts in the U.S. I don't know if they were making that up or what, but the idea that they were NOT accelerating production 2+ months ago is just horrifying. Why is everyone asleep at the switch? We had some many months to prepare.

VP Pence said that in a press briefing last week. They’re just lying about everything now.

Governors are begging for feds to step in and use Defense Production Act to ramp up productions of masks, other PPE, ventilators, etc, but Trump prefers to let states bid on the open market, against each other, so private sector can maximize profits.

This is happening RIGHT NOW.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/new-york-gov-cuomo-wants-federal-government-to-command-supplies-of-ventilators-and-masks-51584915722

We lost precious weeks in Jan and Feb because of his inaction, and we continue to lose time. We should’ve been making ventilators weeks ago. WHY ISN’T ANYONE DOING ANYTHING?!

There is plenty being done. Deep breaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TY for posting that letter from the doctor at NY Pres. That is extremely upsetting. And why is it that he says that the manufacturer is "beginning to accelerate" production? DCUM posters (and anyone with any sense) were talking about the mask shortage in JANUARY. I remember someone posting that 3M was ramping up production and adding production shifts in the U.S. I don't know if they were making that up or what, but the idea that they were NOT accelerating production 2+ months ago is just horrifying. Why is everyone asleep at the switch? We had some many months to prepare.

VP Pence said that in a press briefing last week. They’re just lying about everything now.

Governors are begging for feds to step in and use Defense Production Act to ramp up productions of masks, other PPE, ventilators, etc, but Trump prefers to let states bid on the open market, against each other, so private sector can maximize profits.

This is happening RIGHT NOW.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/new-york-gov-cuomo-wants-federal-government-to-command-supplies-of-ventilators-and-masks-51584915722

We lost precious weeks in Jan and Feb because of his inaction, and we continue to lose time. We should’ve been making ventilators weeks ago. WHY ISN’T ANYONE DOING ANYTHING?!

There is plenty being done. Deep breaths.

LOL you are delusional. They weren’t doing jack three weeks ago - except maybe investing in medical manufacturing while telling the rest of us all was well - and they aren’t doing jack now. What a shtshow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/opinion/sanders-biden-socialism.html

I think it’s a perspective that really needs to be heard.

Sorry pasted wrong link:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html

Agree! “Use a two-week isolation strategy,’’ Katz answered. Tell everyone to basically stay home for two weeks, rather than indefinitely. (This includes all the reckless college students packing the beaches of Florida.) If you are infected with the coronavirus it will usually present within a two-week incubation period.

“Those who have symptomatic infection should then self-isolate — with or without testing, which is exactly what we do with the flu,’’ Katz said. “Those who don’t, if in the low-risk population, should be allowed to return to work or school, after the two weeks end.”

Effectively, we’d ‘reboot’ our society in two or perhaps more weeks from now. "

Love this idea! Finally somebody sensible

[Anonymous]

Where's biden in all this? The most likely democratic nominee totally absent..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/opinion/sanders-biden-socialism.html

I think it’s a perspective that really needs to be heard.

Sorry pasted wrong link:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html

Agree! “Use a two-week isolation strategy,’’ Katz answered. Tell everyone to basically stay home for two weeks, rather than indefinitely. (This includes all the reckless college students packing the beaches of Florida.) If you are infected with the coronavirus it will usually present within a two-week incubation period.

“Those who have symptomatic infection should then self-isolate — with or without testing, which is exactly what we do with the flu,’’ Katz said. “Those who don’t, if in the low-risk population, should be allowed to return to work or school, after the two weeks end.”

Effectively, we’d ‘reboot’ our society in two or perhaps more weeks from now. "

Love this idea! Finally somebody sensible

Exactly. We would not be facing Great Depression II if there were a clear end to the societal upheaval.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where's biden in all this? The most likely democratic nominee totally absent..

He’s an old dude, and he already said what he’d have done differently: better people, better decisions, but no travel ban early on. But yeah, a younger challenger would be running a shadow presidency. No idea what Lunch Bucket is doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/opinion/sanders-biden-socialism.html

I think it’s a perspective that really needs to be heard.

Sorry pasted wrong link:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html

Agree! “Use a two-week isolation strategy,’’ Katz answered. Tell everyone to basically stay home for two weeks, rather than indefinitely. (This includes all the reckless college students packing the beaches of Florida.) If you are infected with the coronavirus it will usually present within a two-week incubation period.

“Those who have symptomatic infection should then self-isolate — with or without testing, which is exactly what we do with the flu,’’ Katz said. “Those who don’t, if in the low-risk population, should be allowed to return to work or school, after the two weeks end.”

Effectively, we’d ‘reboot’ our society in two or perhaps more weeks from now. "

Love this idea! Finally somebody sensible

Except you need to be able to test! I’ve had a recurrent runny nose for the last five months. Is it a virus? Dry air? Something else? In order for people to isolate longer than 14 days, you need a test, otherwise people will write it off as another cold, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where's biden in all this? The most likely democratic nominee totally absent..

Biden should stay out of this. He will only look silly and he can't really do anything for anybody right now. He has already made a number of public foibles speaking about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where's biden in all this? The most likely democratic nominee totally absent..

Right now it’s not Biden’s job.

Trump and his crappy Administration failed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there any truth to the story that losing the sense of smell is correlated to covid-19? Is this real?

It’s true. There is a recent article in NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-symptoms-smell-taste.html

[Anonymous]

Looks like loss of sense or distortion of smell and/or taste is a way to find asymptomatic cases. From the website of the Head, Nose and Throat Doctors

https://www.entnet.org/content/coronavirus-disease-2019-resources

Anecdotal evidence is rapidly accumulating from sites around the world that anosmia (loss of smell) and dysgeusia (distortion of sense of taste) are significant symptoms associated with the COVID-19 pandemic. Anosmia, in particular, has been seen in patients ultimately testing positive for the coronavirus with no other symptoms. We propose that these symptoms be added to the list of screening tools for possible COVID-19 infection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/opinion/sanders-biden-socialism.html

I think it’s a perspective that really needs to be heard.

Sorry pasted wrong link:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html

Agree! “Use a two-week isolation strategy,’’ Katz answered. Tell everyone to basically stay home for two weeks, rather than indefinitely. (This includes all the reckless college students packing the beaches of Florida.) If you are infected with the coronavirus it will usually present within a two-week incubation period.

“Those who have symptomatic infection should then self-isolate — with or without testing, which is exactly what we do with the flu,’’ Katz said. “Those who don’t, if in the low-risk population, should be allowed to return to work or school, after the two weeks end.”

Effectively, we’d ‘reboot’ our society in two or perhaps more weeks from now. "

Love this idea! Finally somebody sensible

Except you need to be able to test! I’ve had a recurrent runny nose for the last five months. Is it a virus? Dry air? Something else? In order for people to isolate longer than 14 days, you need a test, otherwise people will write it off as another cold, etc.

Yeah, this strategy only works if you have an easily accessible test so you can know at the end of 2 weeks if you have the virus or not.

Since people can have the virus without symptoms, and spread it to others... a household could start with a child with the virus but no symptoms, and at the end of 14 days mom and dad could be infected but showing no symptoms yet. 2 week reboot is over -- but mom and dad now go out and spread their germs for a few days before coming down with a cough. Since there's no test .. how do you prevent that from happening over and over again?

This strategy also ignores the fact that many young people with the virus need hospitalization. It's not just the elderly who are clogging up the hospitals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should read:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/opinion/sanders-biden-socialism.html

I think it’s a perspective that really needs to be heard.

Sorry pasted wrong link:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/opinion/coronavirus-economy.html

Agree! “Use a two-week isolation strategy,’’ Katz answered. Tell everyone to basically stay home for two weeks, rather than indefinitely. (This includes all the reckless college students packing the beaches of Florida.) If you are infected with the coronavirus it will usually present within a two-week incubation period.

“Those who have symptomatic infection should then self-isolate — with or without testing, which is exactly what we do with the flu,’’ Katz said. “Those who don’t, if in the low-risk population, should be allowed to return to work or school, after the two weeks end.”

Effectively, we’d ‘reboot’ our society in two or perhaps more weeks from now. "

Love this idea! Finally somebody sensible

Except you need to be able to test! I’ve had a recurrent runny nose for the last five months. Is it a virus? Dry air? Something else? In order for people to isolate longer than 14 days, you need a test, otherwise people will write it off as another cold, etc.

Yeah, this strategy only works if you have an easily accessible test so you can know at the end of 2 weeks if you have the virus or not.

Since people can have the virus without symptoms, and spread it to others... a household could start with a child with the virus but no symptoms, and at the end of 14 days mom and dad could be infected but showing no symptoms yet. 2 week reboot is over -- but mom and dad now go out and spread their germs for a few days before coming down with a cough. Since there's no test .. how do you prevent that from happening over and over again?

This strategy also ignores the fact that many young people with the virus need hospitalization. It's not just the elderly who are clogging up the hospitals.

+1

It also ignores that the "vulnerable" health-wise are simultaneously made the most vulnerable economic-wise, if they aren't participating in the economy as the majority is. It feeds into the individualistic mentality of US society, screw the most vulnerable, and let's make them even more vulnerable, so the rest of us can get back to pretending this isn't happening.

[Anonymous]

Unsure if this has already been posted, but here’s a Johns Hopkins University link to a real-time COVID-19 map of cases:
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6