Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 5

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Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I just watched this. She claims Kavanaugh was wearing "his Georgetown Prep uniform" when she met him. Um, there IS NO GP UNIFORM. A jacket and tie, but no uniform. She said she thinks he was "proud" of his uniform. Wow, that's not a lie at all. She's *completely* believable.

You literally just described a school uniform.

A bunch of boys prep schools have the uniform of a jacket and tie. How would it identify Georgetown Prep vs an entirely different boys school?

She said he was wearing a basketball team uniform from his school.

Do you have a source? I haven't read that one.

All dozen of these parties happened during basketball season? And after games, for him to be wearing his uniform? And he'd go to these parties sweaty and gross?

I am a few years younger than Kavanaugh and did not hang out with private school kids, but that still doesn't seem particularly plausible.

Combine the oddness with the lack of the other gang-raped women speaking out, or other people talking about drunken orgy parties (if she got the rape aspect wrong, as she seemed to walk back in the NBC interview), and none of it passes the smell test.

She had other people who were willing to speak with the FBI only. After seeing the trash treatment and picking apart of meaningless details, I can understand why a victim or a witness would ONLY want to talk to the FBI.

They'd rather go to talk to the FBI, which is under the EXECUTIVE BRANCH, than the police?

Please.

They aren't filing a police report because they don't want to dig in further than they have and actually get in trouble for a false report.

You are making ZERO SENSE.

Swetnick already wrote a sworn statement. It would have to be actually investigated with a REAL INVESTIGATION by the FBI. If it is found that she lied, then she could be put in jail and lose her security clearance.
Remember, she is ONE OF THE PEOPLE who asked for a real investigation by the FBI. Who resisted a real investigation by the FBI? KAvanaugh.

A sworn affidavit does not have to be investigated by the FBI.
If this truly happened, and Kavanaugh is truly the monster her affidavit made him out to be (and not the boy at parties she later described), then surely it would be worth her going to the police to file a report and follow up. The police have explicitly said they would investigate.

But she's not interested in having the police investigate.

That doesn't speak well of her.

Nothing she says speaks well of her. Especially her enthusiasm at accusing Kavanaugh and Judge of terrible acts (spiking the punch and gang rape) in her sworn statement, and then complete back peddling of those accusations (well, they were in the house...) while on TV. She knows she's lied and has been caught.

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Anonymous wrote:And then she totally retracts her sworn statement where she said Kavanaugh and Judge spiked the punch bowl. Now she says merely, they were "near" the punch bowl. Sorry, this woman is lying. Anyone who insists otherwise just looks idiotic.

No she did not.

No she did not what? Did you watch the video? She completely backpeddles when asked about the punch bowl. She knows she can't claim they spiked the punch, but by golly, they were standing nearby! And later, the four names she provides as having gone with her to these parties: one says they have no recollection of any of this, one is dead, and two aren't responding. Oh, Julie. What a farce.

Did you actually read her sworn statement? She didn't retract anything. She stuck with her sworn statement.
She knew him to be lecherous and grope women - she saw that. She said how she saw him behaving at these parties and what was going on around him. Her sworn statement is important in light of the other two accusations. Also a lot depends on what the other witnesses she has tell the FBI. Hopefully the FBI will do a real investigation in the future.

I'm wondering whether YOU actually read her sworn statement. Here is the part specifically about the punch bowl:

"During the years 1981-82, I became aware of efforts by Mark Judge, Brett Kavanaugh and others to "spike" the "punch" at house parties I attended with drugs and/or grain alcohol so as to cause girls to lose their inhibitions and their ability to say "No."

But in her interview, when specifically questioned about these allegations, she walks it back to say, well, they were standing *near* the punch bowl. What a bunch of BS.

Became aware does not say saw. Became aware means that she saw things that made her put 2 and 2 together and realize what was going on. This is why the FBI should investigate and not yahoos with a computer who like to parse words. This is what that means in court testimony. She did not see it, but she saw other things that made her realize what was happening.

This is what the police should investigate. If only she would report it. After all, she said everyone in the county was aware of it!

(Does this stuff remind anyone else of the McMartin Preschool case?)

No. It does remind me of OJ though.

Reminds me of the UVA and Duke cases.

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And yet unfortunately the liberals decided not to focus on these things but instead of an allegation of sexual assault that had zero evidence to back it up.

Zero evidence? Julie Swetnick is a woman with an impeccable reputation. She was at 10 parties where Kavanaugh was spiking the punch bowl and gang raping women. She had 4 witnesses that could back up her story but Trump made sure the FBI would not investigate her claim.

Is this supposed to be a joke. This allegation blew the whole case for the Democrats. Not believable at all.

I know that when I head out to a gang rape, I always pack a punch bowl. It adds a touch of class.

Anybody who thinks that a 20 year old woman who went to Gaithersburg High is going to be hanging out with a bunch of 16-17 year old Georgetown Prep students on 10 different occasions clearly never went to private school in this area.

And punch bowls? What high school party have you ever seen a punch bowl at?

I went to public school in MoCo. While in high school I hung out with many prep school kids - including kids from Georgetown Prep. No crazy animal house parties for us (we were NOT the Brett Kavanaugh type of high schoolers). But we certainly socialized together and we were all kids were from affluent families. I'm not sure why posters are suggesting that it impossible that public school and private school kids didn't mix. Depending on the neighborhood, we certainly did.

Swetnick was 20 years old hanging out with 16-17 year old kids not once but 10 times. There was a spiked punch bowl and a line of guys waiting to rape drunk girls. Where are all the other rape victims? Who continues going to these parties afterwards?

Brock Turner's victim was also in her 20s, a college graduate. Do you think she was lying about being at the frat party?

There were two witnesses who pulled her away so there was proof and it also was reported immediately. Attending a frat party in your early 20's is not the same thing as attending a high school party.

she said they were mixed aged parties and had kids from high school and college.

Yes she did say that and what a credible witness she is. There is not one witness to back her story up. If these boys were doing this to multiple girls there would be more victims. Correct? She also never stated that kavanaugh participated in the rape. He stood by the punch bowl.

She had witnesses who were willing to speak with the FBI.

Funny how none of them corroborated her story.

HAve the FBI interviewed her????? NO

Has she gone to the police to follow up on this terrible crime?
No.

The vast majority of sexual assaults go unreported. It doesn't make the crimes less terrible. It means people don't want to be victimized again (which is exactly what has happened to Dr. Ford, Ramirez and Swetnick). We had many, many posters on these kavanaugh threads who shared their stories of sexual assault and most of them had not reported them to the police.

But it hasn't gone unreported. She chose to enter the public arena with it.

Why enter the public arena, but not file a police report?

???? how many times do we need to cover this?
TIRESOME

Until you make a reasonable argument why someone would enter the public arena, accuse someone of running a gang-rape ring, and yet have no interest in filing a police report about it.

I agree, that with a security clearance at risk, her behavior is bizarre. But that's just how she is. Attend gang raping parties repeatedly, do nothing. Claim everyone in the county knows about them, nobody does. Say he's a gang raping menace, oh maybe he was just giving people drinks. Care deeply enough to enter the public arena in an attempt to prevent him from being confirmed, but not actually follow up with the police to potentially get more facts to help make sure he isn't confirmed and perhaps is even charged.

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Anonymous wrote:Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

There is no clearing your name. I can't prove I didn't assault someone 35 years ago. I can call for all the investigations in the world and I'm not going to be able to prove a thing. If someone accuses me, they are more than welcome to investigate.

Have you called for an investigation to prove that you didn't sexually assault some one when you were 17? If you haven't, you're guilty.

[Anonymous]

Charged with what? The statute of limitations has run.

[Anonymous]

Here's another sexual predator:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6266985/First-gymnast-win-world-title-forced-perform-oral-sex-coach-daily-two-years.html

These are your people, GOP! Go and defend him! Why hasn't she gone to the police?

Maybe Trump can give him a cabinet position!

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Anonymous wrote:Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

There is no clearing your name. I can't prove I didn't assault someone 35 years ago. I can call for all the investigations in the world and I'm not going to be able to prove a thing. If someone accuses me, they are more than welcome to investigate.

Have you called for an investigation to prove that you didn't sexually assault some one when you were 17? If you haven't, you're guilty.

He had the ability back in JULY, before anything was public knowledge. But he didn't. Instead he was busy tampering with witnesses about the assault on Ramirez.

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Anonymous wrote:Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

There is no clearing your name. I can't prove I didn't assault someone 35 years ago. I can call for all the investigations in the world and I'm not going to be able to prove a thing. If someone accuses me, they are more than welcome to investigate.

Have you called for an investigation to prove that you didn't sexually assault some one when you were 17? If you haven't, you're guilty.

If you're in a position to do so, but instead rush to be sworn in hours after a confirmation vote, it shows that you're scared of something. Obviously not scared of unhappy Democrats. Scared of something else.

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Anonymous wrote:Charged with what? The statute of limitations has run.

We don't know if the statue of limitations has run until the police investigate. They're willing to do so. But no one's willing to report a crime.
Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

There is no clearing your name. I can't prove I didn't assault someone 35 years ago. I can call for all the investigations in the world and I'm not going to be able to prove a thing. If someone accuses me, they are more than welcome to investigate.

Have you called for an investigation to prove that you didn't sexually assault some one when you were 17? If you haven't, you're guilty.

He had the ability back in JULY, before anything was public knowledge. But he didn't. Instead he was busy tampering with witnesses about the assault on Ramirez.

If there's evidence, then hey! Another way to get him off the court.

No one's reporting it? Huh.

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Anonymous wrote:Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

There is no clearing your name. I can't prove I didn't assault someone 35 years ago. I can call for all the investigations in the world and I'm not going to be able to prove a thing. If someone accuses me, they are more than welcome to investigate.

Have you called for an investigation to prove that you didn't sexually assault some one when you were 17? If you haven't, you're guilty.

If you're in a position to do so, but instead rush to be sworn in hours after a confirmation vote, it shows that you're scared of something. Obviously not scared of unhappy Democrats. Scared of something else.

There was no rush.
Having people hold things to the last hour, and then giving them a time limit to resolve them, is not rushing.
If you tell your child 2 hours before they have to leave in the morning, but they wait until 5 minutes before to get their stuff together? You didn't rush them.

Kavanaugh's nomination was orderly, and they even allowed for extra time to handle the last minute accusation.

And once he was confirmed, crickets.
No one following up on the apparently obvious perjury.
No one filing police reports.
All smoke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

There is no clearing your name. I can't prove I didn't assault someone 35 years ago. I can call for all the investigations in the world and I'm not going to be able to prove a thing. If someone accuses me, they are more than welcome to investigate.

Have you called for an investigation to prove that you didn't sexually assault some one when you were 17? If you haven't, you're guilty.

PRECISELY. There is no disproving a negative.

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Anonymous wrote:Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

There is no clearing your name. I can't prove I didn't assault someone 35 years ago. I can call for all the investigations in the world and I'm not going to be able to prove a thing. If someone accuses me, they are more than welcome to investigate.

Have you called for an investigation to prove that you didn't sexually assault some one when you were 17? If you haven't, you're guilty.

If you're in a position to do so, but instead rush to be sworn in hours after a confirmation vote, it shows that you're scared of something. Obviously not scared of unhappy Democrats. Scared of something else.

There was no rush.
Having people hold things to the last hour, and then giving them a time limit to resolve them, is not rushing.
If you tell your child 2 hours before they have to leave in the morning, but they wait until 5 minutes before to get their stuff together? You didn't rush them.

Kavanaugh's nomination was orderly, and they even allowed for extra time to handle the last minute accusation.

And once he was confirmed, crickets.
No one following up on the apparently obvious perjury.
No one filing police reports.
All smoke.

Gorsuch was sworn in 3 days after the confirmation vote. Kavanaugh was sworn in 3 hours after the confirmation vote. No rush?

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Anonymous wrote:Whelan's insane coverup put the nail in the coffin for me.
That and the refusal for Kavanaugh to call for an investigation to clear his name.


He will always be the SCJ who "kavanaughs" women.

There is no clearing your name. I can't prove I didn't assault someone 35 years ago. I can call for all the investigations in the world and I'm not going to be able to prove a thing. If someone accuses me, they are more than welcome to investigate.

Have you called for an investigation to prove that you didn't sexually assault some one when you were 17? If you haven't, you're guilty.

If you're in a position to do so, but instead rush to be sworn in hours after a confirmation vote, it shows that you're scared of something. Obviously not scared of unhappy Democrats. Scared of something else.

There was no rush.
Having people hold things to the last hour, and then giving them a time limit to resolve them, is not rushing.
If you tell your child 2 hours before they have to leave in the morning, but they wait until 5 minutes before to get their stuff together? You didn't rush them.

Kavanaugh's nomination was orderly, and they even allowed for extra time to handle the last minute accusation.

And once he was confirmed, crickets.
No one following up on the apparently obvious perjury.
No one filing police reports.
All smoke.

Gorsuch was sworn in 3 days after the confirmation vote. Kavanaugh was sworn in 3 hours after the confirmation vote. No rush?

Yep.
Kavanaugh is a slimeball. He did a lot of bad things. He did a lot of bad things trying to get to be a supreme court justice too. I think he will be impeached and removed, eventually.

There are no crickets. Congress has to have him investigated for perjury since it was at a congressional hearing that he lied. That won't happen until Democrats are the majority.

There will be no police reports until a more recent victim comes forward, and who knows if there even is one who would go to the police? If they exist, they would have seen what happened to the earlier victims.

Saying that it was all smoke is ridiculous. If it was all smoke, why no FBI investigation? The "can't prove a negative" thing is ridiculous. They would have looked at the therapist notes from Dr. Ford, they would have interviewed Ramirez's list of people she supplied, they would have interviewed Swetnick and her witnesses, and they would have interviewed Kavanaugh.

He is guilty guilty guilty.