DA vs ECNL vs everything else

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

And my understanding is that FCV and Bethesda have been the most represented teams at the 04 age group at the NTC. I don't have roster however to confirm that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

Is it possible that over a period of a couple years 5 kids were invited? Maybe, however getting an invite once and being invited back are totally different stories. There is no way there are currently 5 04 McLean girls at the NTC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

The most recent Regional NTC had 5 Mclean players including Drake's DD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

Is it possible that over a period of a couple years 5 kids were invited? Maybe, however getting an invite once and being invited back are totally different stories. There is no way there are currently 5 04 McLean girls at the NTC.

4 mclean 04s
1 Mclean 05 (Don't know if on roster but easy to check)

All at 04 NTC

Roster to prove it.

Feel free to defend it all you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

The most recent Regional NTC had 5 Mclean players including Drake's DD

All were 04s or were some 03s too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

Is it possible that over a period of a couple years 5 kids were invited? Maybe, however getting an invite once and being invited back are totally different stories. There is no way there are currently 5 04 McLean girls at the NTC.

4 mclean 04s
1 Mclean 05 (Don't know if on roster but easy to check)

All at 04 NTC

Roster to prove it.

Feel free to defend it all you want.

have a link to that roster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

The most recent Regional NTC had 5 Mclean players including Drake's DD

All were 04s or were some 03s too?

at least one birth year 04 at MYS plays 03

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not looking for validation but shooting down flawed analysis by folks who promote GDA/ECNL as the only way to go. BTW, Pipeline is in institution for boys and girls, with strong teams most age groups across genders. Not too dissimilar to Arlington.

Arlington has DA on the boys side and now on the girls side, just sayin.

What flawed analysis? DA/ECNL provide tremendous leverage in regards to showcase events. By nature of simply being on the DA or ECNL team your player has guaranteed access to that showcase leverage. Pipeline, institution as it may be, can only apply to showcase events outside of that environment. If you just compare the coaching list of Jeff Cup or Disney to that of a GDA or ECNL showcase the contrast is striking. That is factual.

So again, stay at Pipeline, you don't need DA or ECNL. But, there are few, if any, clubs that fit that mold in NoVA. With ECNL's rampant expansion in NoVA a kid with college ambition has very little choice left. GDA= Arlington, Spirit, FCV. ECNL=VDA, Loudoun, BRYC, McLean. That is seven clubs in NOVA alone with some showcase league affiliation. So, in NOVA, in order to avoid clubs in the showcase leagues one is left finding the right team with clubs like: CYA, SYA, VSA, Herndon, Sterling, ODFC, whatever Annandale is anymore, SYC, PWSI, Great Falls, Reston, VYS, Alexandira, Gunston, LMVSC, etc....

Of those clubs, VSA, PWSI, Great Falls/Reston and even VYS all have affiliations with either DA or ECNL so the teams in the older ages have already been picked of their best players in support of the DA or ECNL team. So where is the super club with a super team left for a college bound player to go?

And on your side of the river Pipeline is still affiliated with Spirit MD so it is likely that their top 2-3 players still choose DA over remaining with Pipeline.

My only point is that there are players outside of ECNL/DA that get picked up by USWNT and top schools (UCLA, UNC, Stanford, etc.). If there is a great player outside of those leagues, they will get discovered.

[Anonymous]

Are some of you so shocked that you doubt the player allotment?

Will you be as shocked once you see the roster or will you defend it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

Is it possible that over a period of a couple years 5 kids were invited? Maybe, however getting an invite once and being invited back are totally different stories. There is no way there are currently 5 04 McLean girls at the NTC.

4 mclean 04s
1 Mclean 05 (Don't know if on roster but easy to check)

All at 04 NTC

Roster to prove it.

Feel free to defend it all you want.

Here is something even more humorous. Arlington 04 team beat that Mclean 04 ECNL team 3-0 at OBGC and again down at CASL I believe where ASA won the entire 04 bracket and Mclean did not even make the semi-finals. So how is it that 4 MYS kids from 04 are at NTC but ASA not represented beyond I hear one player?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

Is it possible that over a period of a couple years 5 kids were invited? Maybe, however getting an invite once and being invited back are totally different stories. There is no way there are currently 5 04 McLean girls at the NTC.

4 mclean 04s
1 Mclean 05 (Don't know if on roster but easy to check)

All at 04 NTC

Roster to prove it.

Feel free to defend it all you want.

Here is something even more humorous. Arlington 04 team beat that Mclean 04 ECNL team 3-0 at OBGC and again down at CASL I believe where ASA won the entire 04 bracket and Mclean did not even make the semi-finals. So how is it that 4 MYS kids from 04 are at NTC but ASA not represented beyond I hear one player?

I can answer that. Because Arlington 04s have athletic physical kids that can win games but are not developed as soccer players yet. GDA hopefully changes that for them. The NTC isn’t interested in girls that are primarily good at kicking the ball real hard, running real fast in a straight line and knocking people over. That may get you some trophies but won’t develop the top level soccer players. Too many parents are clueless to understand this however judging by the cheering on the sidelines for really long kicks to no one or out of bounds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

Is it possible that over a period of a couple years 5 kids were invited? Maybe, however getting an invite once and being invited back are totally different stories. There is no way there are currently 5 04 McLean girls at the NTC.

4 mclean 04s
1 Mclean 05 (Don't know if on roster but easy to check)

All at 04 NTC

Roster to prove it.

Feel free to defend it all you want.

Here is something even more humorous. Arlington 04 team beat that Mclean 04 ECNL team 3-0 at OBGC and again down at CASL I believe where ASA won the entire 04 bracket and Mclean did not even make the semi-finals. So how is it that 4 MYS kids from 04 are at NTC but ASA not represented beyond I hear one player?

Team wins and losses esp at u14 mean nothing to an NTC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

Is it possible that over a period of a couple years 5 kids were invited? Maybe, however getting an invite once and being invited back are totally different stories. There is no way there are currently 5 04 McLean girls at the NTC.

4 mclean 04s

1 Mclean 05 (Don't know if on roster but easy to check)

All at 04 NTC

Roster to prove it.

Feel free to defend it all you want.

have a link to that roster?

If your DD has ever been invited to a USTC you would know that they dont publish the rosters. They send you a PDF invite, and then you accept it via a link. So unless someone has posted their invite for the USTC in VA you would not know who was invited unless you were given that PDF or were staff at a club who is copied on the invites (the director of club and player's coach).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am talking about Diane Drakes former age group 04...of which is the most represented club at that age at NTC. A team that sits 6 out of 8 but has almost half of their starting field players at NTC.

Sounds legit.

Nepotism and politics OR the appearance thereof must be avoided at all cost.

Barely any MD 04 kids at the same NYC. Don't forget, this is a regional NTC. Not a VA NTC.

Half of starting field players would 5 players. There is no chance that McLean team has had 5 players at the NTC. That's simply a lie.

Is it possible that over a period of a couple years 5 kids were invited? Maybe, however getting an invite once and being invited back are totally different stories. There is no way there are currently 5 04 McLean girls at the NTC.

4 mclean 04s

1 Mclean 05 (Don't know if on roster but easy to check)

All at 04 NTC

Roster to prove it.

Feel free to defend it all you want.

Here is something even more humorous. Arlington 04 team beat that Mclean 04 ECNL team 3-0 at OBGC and again down at CASL I believe where ASA won the entire 04 bracket and Mclean did not even make the semi-finals. So how is it that 4 MYS kids from 04 are at NTC but ASA not represented beyond I hear one player?

Team wins and losses esp at u14 mean nothing to an NTC.

That is not the point. They are indicative of talent on the team. If a team had 4 starters at the NTC then they should not be losing to little old Arlington 04 from CCL.