Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

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Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!


Trump will never see the inside of a federal penitentiary, even if convicted by a jury of his peers. He after all is a former president. Could he be subjected to a type of home confinement? More likely. The wildcard is where the grand juries investigating Jan 6 and Georgia election rigging are headed.
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Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!


Trump will never see the inside of a federal penitentiary, even if convicted by a jury of his peers. He after all is a former president. Could he be subjected to a type of home confinement? More likely. The wildcard is where the grand juries investigating Jan 6 and Georgia election rigging are headed.


I’d be fine if the USG bought him a private island to live out his days with his family. Hotel California type arrangement.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


He will have himself declared mentally incompetent before he faces any criminal prosecution.


There’s no way. He’s a very stable genius. He said so himself. You can be assured he’s looked at whether the US has extradition treaties with Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Russia.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


A trial cuts both ways. Trump is never going to testify under oath in his own defense and open himself up to cross examination. DOJ has to determine the degree to which they will offer evidence about the national security information in Trump’s possession on various dates (Goldilocks documents). Much of the trial could be closed to the public. DOJ has to produce Brady/Jencks investigatory materials. Much of the cadre will turn on the nature and proof of the “wilfullness” of Trump’s refusal to turn over the material and the subsequent obstruction. Trump ultimately wants to know who ratted him out and exact revenge.



This is probably correct. But the only way he will find out is if he is indicted. It’s an interesting problem. Maybe what they’ve found is all DOJ needs to keep him in line and under surveillance under surveillance indefinitely.
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Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!


Trump will never see the inside of a federal penitentiary, even if convicted by a jury of his peers. He after all is a former president. Could he be subjected to a type of home confinement? More likely. The wildcard is where the grand juries investigating Jan 6 and Georgia election rigging are headed.


I’d be fine if the USG bought him a private island to live out his days with his family. Hotel California type arrangement.


Let's learn from the Elba mistake, and go straight to St Helena.

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Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!


Trump will never see the inside of a federal penitentiary, even if convicted by a jury of his peers. He after all is a former president. Could he be subjected to a type of home confinement? More likely. The wildcard is where the grand juries investigating Jan 6 and Georgia election rigging are headed.


I’d be fine if the USG bought him a private island to live out his days with his family. Hotel California type arrangement.


The time to proclaim himself a political prisoner in the tradition of Mandela would be measured in nanoseconds. But DJT would throw himself off the roof of Trump Tower before allocuting to a crime as part of a plea. He will never admit to being a felon or accept responsibility for his actions. His options are severely constrained so his next move is to declare his candidacy for 2024 and go all in on the path to authoritarianism.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!


Trump will never see the inside of a federal penitentiary, even if convicted by a jury of his peers. He after all is a former president. Could he be subjected to a type of home confinement? More likely. The wildcard is where the grand juries investigating Jan 6 and Georgia election rigging are headed.


I’d be fine if the USG bought him a private island to live out his days with his family. Hotel California type arrangement.


Let's learn from the Elba mistake, and go straight to St Helena.



Time is on our side. I'd be fine with Elba.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s crimes all the way down!

Shouldn’t his lawyers ask to be excused at this point? Don’t they have conflicts now because it appears they also engaged in obstruction? Is there anyone around him who doesn’t have criminal exposure at this point??

Wow is all I can say.


I think DOJ had an obligation before filing that brief last night to inform Trump's lawyers that they're in legal jeopardy or at the very least, material witnesses. That's why the new guy - who appears to be a good lawyer - was announced yesterday.


I’m sorry, but what? DOJ doesn’t have a team flying around the country informing people under investigation that they’re under investigation and to stop criming. Lying to the FBI in a sworn statement is a problem and you don’t need to be a lawyer for a former president to understand that.


I wouldn't be surprised if someone at DOJ picked up the phone and gave Jim Trusty, who worked at DOJ for decades, a call. Trusty wasn't representing Trump when this all went down, and based on what he said during this TV appearance, he seems a little misinformed. "Hey, Jim, just a heads up, your guy is going need some lawyers. Soon. Try to find someone good, appellate experience would be helpful, because the facts are not on your side."


Based on what a Trump spokesman told the Post quoted in here, Trusty is involved in this along with Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb. Wonder if he has any exposure. https://www.salon.com/2022/08/17/everyones-saying-no-hires-florida-insurance-lawyer-as-top-attorneys-refuse-to-work-for-him/


Trusty is just another kook looking to get in on that sweet right wing media grift. There is a fair possibility he got sandbagged and wasn’t told the truth by Trump and Bobb. Otherwise there’s no way he puts his signature on last week’s motion. Looking forward to when DOJ seeks to invade privilege with the understanding there will not be the ordinary trail of email and electronic communications because mobsters like Trump don’t use email.


Dp- honestly, these are the people I want more than Trump.
Everyone who tried to get in on the grift at the expense of democracy. I want them burned at the stake.


Don't write that, even metaphorically speaking. Because then you can't accuse the other side of inciting violence when they say equivalent things.



Yep, I'll never forgive Bannon "Heads on spikes".
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Trump attorney Bobb was among the 1/6 architects...

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I hope there is a way that he can no longer be involved in American politics. he cannot endorse or speak on behalf of any candidate.

if he is jailed, will USSS be force to protect him in the pokey?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


A trial cuts both ways. Trump is never going to testify under oath in his own defense and open himself up to cross examination. DOJ has to determine the degree to which they will offer evidence about the national security information in Trump’s possession on various dates (Goldilocks documents). Much of the trial could be closed to the public. DOJ has to produce Brady/Jencks investigatory materials. Much of the cadre will turn on the nature and proof of the “wilfullness” of Trump’s refusal to turn over the material and the subsequent obstruction. Trump ultimately wants to know who ratted him out and exact revenge.



I say release as much as possible. By now surely we've had enough time to change the codes, move the nukes, relocate the spies, etc. etc.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!


Trump will never see the inside of a federal penitentiary, even if convicted by a jury of his peers. He after all is a former president. Could he be subjected to a type of home confinement? More likely. The wildcard is where the grand juries investigating Jan 6 and Georgia election rigging are headed.


I’d be fine if the USG bought him a private island to live out his days with his family. Hotel California type arrangement.
LOL like Napoleon.

But he came back
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


He will have himself declared mentally incompetent before he faces any criminal prosecution.


I'm the PP, and yeah, I think Trump will do whatever he has to do to avoid the inside of a courtroom for a criminal trial. It's a space he does not control and if he's not in control he's afraid of appearing weak. It's also in DOJ's best interest to avoid the circus of a trial and the risk of a jury doing something unpredictable. I get that people want to see Trump in jail, but it's not going to happen. He may even end up pardoned someday.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!


Trump will never see the inside of a federal penitentiary, even if convicted by a jury of his peers. He after all is a former president. Could he be subjected to a type of home confinement? More likely. The wildcard is where the grand juries investigating Jan 6 and Georgia election rigging are headed.


It needs to be home confinement with no Internet access. Period.
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Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?


He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.


Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.


Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.


Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!


Trump will never see the inside of a federal penitentiary, even if convicted by a jury of his peers. He after all is a former president. Could he be subjected to a type of home confinement? More likely. The wildcard is where the grand juries investigating Jan 6 and Georgia election rigging are headed.


I’d be fine if the USG bought him a private island to live out his days with his family. Hotel California type arrangement.


The time to proclaim himself a political prisoner in the tradition of Mandela would be measured in nanoseconds. But DJT would throw himself off the roof of Trump Tower before allocuting to a crime as part of a plea. He will never admit to being a felon or accept responsibility for his actions. His options are severely constrained so his next move is to declare his candidacy for 2024 and go all in on the path to authoritarianism.


Yeah. Sadly this is also probably correct. The other option is to cooperate with law enforcement and not run, and hope they go easy on him. He’d have to start playing nice though.
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