Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

[Anonymous]

He’s back to saying the seized documents were declassified today.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a lawyer. But this looks like the DoJ really knows what it’s doing and Trump’s lawyers have no clue. Even from the outside, it looks like a serious talent mismatch.

Maybe you are seeing what is portrayed to you?

Please name one thing Trump's lawyers have done right.

And again, the point is missed. How would I know and how would you know? Your media sources? Mine? I have made no decisions yet.

Take all the time you need. I've given up on people like you. I'm sure you have a mind like a steel trap, just like Trump.


Meanwhile, this is really the only thread I'm checking on this forum.

Could not have said it better myself. This is likely the same person that insists that I was told Trump mocked a disabled reporter when I saw him do it with my own eyes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s back to saying the seized documents were declassified today.

He must not have read DOJ’s filing which went into excruciating detail as to how everyone in Trump’s circle was treating the documents as if they were still classified this whole time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He’s back to saying the seized documents were declassified today.

He must not have read DOJ’s filing which went into excruciating detail as to how everyone in Trump’s circle was treating the documents as if they were still classified this whole time.

But he did confirm that he knew that he had them and didn’t hand them over. What the actual?

I just feel like his purpose is to try and get whatever is in those documents out in the public, and that’s really bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How are lawyers at fault if the client is lying to them?
- question from music major

So in this case—if Trump snuck down and took some documents and put them in his desk before letting his lawyers search the boxes…. It looks really bad for them, when they certify that there was no classified documents left on the premises. Or if he put some BACK in the boxes after they searched them. Remember, the lawyers also didn’t let investigators look in the boxes. Makes them look reallllllly guilty.

But they could have also just lied without being made to look like liars. Either way, now they’re under federal investigation.

What makes it look even worse is the Corcoran reportedly drafted it and had Bobb sign it.

In June, Corcoran and Trump’s OAN attorney Christina Bobb “together provided the Justice Department with a written assurance about Trump having returned classified materials,” according to the Post, although the New York Times says Corcoran drafted it and had the much younger Bobb sign it.

https://abovethelaw.com/2022/08/weird-how-all-trumps-old-lawyers-are-washing-their-hair-this-week/

Corcoran has been feeding a narrative to the NYT for the past three weeks. It is being reported uncritically by Haberman et al. One of things Corcoran (falsely) told the times was that the FBI was afforded access to the boxes in the storage room on June 3. DOJ says this was not the case. Treat the reporting accordingly.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crimes all the way down!

Shouldn’t his lawyers ask to be excused at this point? Don’t they have conflicts now because it appears they also engaged in obstruction? Is there anyone around him who doesn’t have criminal exposure at this point??

Wow is all I can say.

I think DOJ had an obligation before filing that brief last night to inform Trump's lawyers that they're in legal jeopardy or at the very least, material witnesses. That's why the new guy - who appears to be a good lawyer - was announced yesterday.

I’m sorry, but what? DOJ doesn’t have a team flying around the country informing people under investigation that they’re under investigation and to stop criming. Lying to the FBI in a sworn statement is a problem and you don’t need to be a lawyer for a former president to understand that.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone at DOJ picked up the phone and gave Jim Trusty, who worked at DOJ for decades, a call. Trusty wasn't representing Trump when this all went down, and based on what he said during this TV appearance, he seems a little misinformed. "Hey, Jim, just a heads up, your guy is going need some lawyers. Soon. Try to find someone good, appellate experience would be helpful, because the facts are not on your side."

Based on what a Trump spokesman told the Post quoted in here, Trusty is involved in this along with Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb. Wonder if he has any exposure. https://www.salon.com/2022/08/17/everyones-saying-no-hires-florida-insurance-lawyer-as-top-attorneys-refuse-to-work-for-him/

Trusty is just another kook looking to get in on that sweet right wing media grift. There is a fair possibility he got sandbagged and wasn’t told the truth by Trump and Bobb. Otherwise there’s no way he puts his signature on last week’s motion. Looking forward to when DOJ seeks to invade privilege with the understanding there will not be the ordinary trail of email and electronic communications because mobsters like Trump don’t use email.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?

He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.

Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.

Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s back to saying the seized documents were declassified today.

He must not have read DOJ’s filing which went into excruciating detail as to how everyone in Trump’s circle was treating the documents as if they were still classified this whole time.

But he did confirm that he knew that he had them and didn’t hand them over. What the actual?

I just feel like his purpose is to try and get whatever is in those documents out in the public, and that’s really bad.

Trump is grasping at straws. A leak of any of the classified materials isn’t going to help him politically, much h less legally, even though it’s not uncommon for greymail concerns to arise in this context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?

He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.

Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.

Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.

A trial would be great for fund raising.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s crimes all the way down!

Shouldn’t his lawyers ask to be excused at this point? Don’t they have conflicts now because it appears they also engaged in obstruction? Is there anyone around him who doesn’t have criminal exposure at this point??

Wow is all I can say.

I think DOJ had an obligation before filing that brief last night to inform Trump's lawyers that they're in legal jeopardy or at the very least, material witnesses. That's why the new guy - who appears to be a good lawyer - was announced yesterday.

I’m sorry, but what? DOJ doesn’t have a team flying around the country informing people under investigation that they’re under investigation and to stop criming. Lying to the FBI in a sworn statement is a problem and you don’t need to be a lawyer for a former president to understand that.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone at DOJ picked up the phone and gave Jim Trusty, who worked at DOJ for decades, a call. Trusty wasn't representing Trump when this all went down, and based on what he said during this TV appearance, he seems a little misinformed. "Hey, Jim, just a heads up, your guy is going need some lawyers. Soon. Try to find someone good, appellate experience would be helpful, because the facts are not on your side."

Based on what a Trump spokesman told the Post quoted in here, Trusty is involved in this along with Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb. Wonder if he has any exposure. https://www.salon.com/2022/08/17/everyones-saying-no-hires-florida-insurance-lawyer-as-top-attorneys-refuse-to-work-for-him/

Trusty is just another kook looking to get in on that sweet right wing media grift. There is a fair possibility he got sandbagged and wasn’t told the truth by Trump and Bobb. Otherwise there’s no way he puts his signature on last week’s motion. Looking forward to when DOJ seeks to invade privilege with the understanding there will not be the ordinary trail of email and electronic communications because mobsters like Trump don’t use email.

Dp- honestly, these are the people I want more than Trump.
Everyone who tried to get in on the grift at the expense of democracy. I want them burned at the stake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s crimes all the way down!

Shouldn’t his lawyers ask to be excused at this point? Don’t they have conflicts now because it appears they also engaged in obstruction? Is there anyone around him who doesn’t have criminal exposure at this point??

Wow is all I can say.

I think DOJ had an obligation before filing that brief last night to inform Trump's lawyers that they're in legal jeopardy or at the very least, material witnesses. That's why the new guy - who appears to be a good lawyer - was announced yesterday.

I’m sorry, but what? DOJ doesn’t have a team flying around the country informing people under investigation that they’re under investigation and to stop criming. Lying to the FBI in a sworn statement is a problem and you don’t need to be a lawyer for a former president to understand that.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone at DOJ picked up the phone and gave Jim Trusty, who worked at DOJ for decades, a call. Trusty wasn't representing Trump when this all went down, and based on what he said during this TV appearance, he seems a little misinformed. "Hey, Jim, just a heads up, your guy is going need some lawyers. Soon. Try to find someone good, appellate experience would be helpful, because the facts are not on your side."

Based on what a Trump spokesman told the Post quoted in here, Trusty is involved in this along with Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb. Wonder if he has any exposure. https://www.salon.com/2022/08/17/everyones-saying-no-hires-florida-insurance-lawyer-as-top-attorneys-refuse-to-work-for-him/

Trusty is just another kook looking to get in on that sweet right wing media grift. There is a fair possibility he got sandbagged and wasn’t told the truth by Trump and Bobb. Otherwise there’s no way he puts his signature on last week’s motion. Looking forward to when DOJ seeks to invade privilege with the understanding there will not be the ordinary trail of email and electronic communications because mobsters like Trump don’t use email.

Dp- honestly, these are the people I want more than Trump.
Everyone who tried to get in on the grift at the expense of democracy. I want them burned at the stake.

Don't write that, even metaphorically speaking. Because then you can't accuse the other side of inciting violence when they say equivalent things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s crimes all the way down!

Shouldn’t his lawyers ask to be excused at this point? Don’t they have conflicts now because it appears they also engaged in obstruction? Is there anyone around him who doesn’t have criminal exposure at this point??

Wow is all I can say.

I think DOJ had an obligation before filing that brief last night to inform Trump's lawyers that they're in legal jeopardy or at the very least, material witnesses. That's why the new guy - who appears to be a good lawyer - was announced yesterday.

I’m sorry, but what? DOJ doesn’t have a team flying around the country informing people under investigation that they’re under investigation and to stop criming. Lying to the FBI in a sworn statement is a problem and you don’t need to be a lawyer for a former president to understand that.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone at DOJ picked up the phone and gave Jim Trusty, who worked at DOJ for decades, a call. Trusty wasn't representing Trump when this all went down, and based on what he said during this TV appearance, he seems a little misinformed. "Hey, Jim, just a heads up, your guy is going need some lawyers. Soon. Try to find someone good, appellate experience would be helpful, because the facts are not on your side."

Based on what a Trump spokesman told the Post quoted in here, Trusty is involved in this along with Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb. Wonder if he has any exposure. https://www.salon.com/2022/08/17/everyones-saying-no-hires-florida-insurance-lawyer-as-top-attorneys-refuse-to-work-for-him/

Trusty is just another kook looking to get in on that sweet right wing media grift. There is a fair possibility he got sandbagged and wasn’t told the truth by Trump and Bobb. Otherwise there’s no way he puts his signature on last week’s motion. Looking forward to when DOJ seeks to invade privilege with the understanding there will not be the ordinary trail of email and electronic communications because mobsters like Trump don’t use email.

Dp- honestly, these are the people I want more than Trump.
Everyone who tried to get in on the grift at the expense of democracy. I want them burned at the stake.

Don't write that, even metaphorically speaking. Because then you can't accuse the other side of inciting violence when they say equivalent things.

Right. I assume we all I understand it’s metaphorical. But we can’t do that anymore, because we are living in the dumbest timeline. My bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?

He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.

Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.

Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.

Civil lawsuits are not criminal prosecutions. He has never plead guilty to anything as far as I am aware. And he’d have to be offered a deal in the first place—highly unlikely!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?

He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.

Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.

Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.

A trial cuts both ways. Trump is never going to testify under oath in his own defense and open himself up to cross examination. DOJ has to determine the degree to which they will offer evidence about the national security information in Trump’s possession on various dates (Goldilocks documents). Much of the trial could be closed to the public. DOJ has to produce Brady/Jencks investigatory materials. Much of the cadre will turn on the nature and proof of the “wilfullness” of Trump’s refusal to turn over the material and the subsequent obstruction. Trump ultimately wants to know who ratted him out and exact revenge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So how does this play out when they indict him? And if he is eventually convicted? House arrest? Exile? Can we deport him to stand trial at The Hague for other stuff he might be tried for?

He will eventually take a plea and pay a fine. No jail time.

Haha, hahahaha. As if Mr. Coup d’etat will ever admit fault.

Recall that Trump ponied up $25million to settle the Trump University lawsuit right as he took office. When it comes down to it, he is transactional. He'll take the plea with certain assurances , pay a fine, and live the rest of his days at Mar A Lago, which is what he wants to do anyway.

A trial would be a disaster. The GOP knows this, and deep down, so does Trump.

He will have himself declared mentally incompetent before he faces any criminal prosecution.