Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are going to be some people out there on Connecticut Avenue shaking their fists at the construction crews building the bike lanes.

When is that going to happen? When does construction start? Why is the city slow walking this?

It says a lot that cyclists are focused more on arguing with people who oppose the change than any concern about when this is actually is going to happen. If lives are so at stake, why are you still arguing with opponents and giving them the middle finger but have no concern about when these bike lanes will be delivered. It’s almost as if the goal is exercising power and not about safety or anything else.

Or it's almost as if you can argue on an anonymous message board and also simultaneously be eager for the bike lanes to be delivered. But more to the point, it's up to the city when the bike lanes are installed — nothing anyone posts here is going to affect that timing one way or the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

You’re so busy trying to win online battles that you’ve lost the plot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

You’re so busy trying to win online battles that you’ve lost the plot.

DP. More accurately, you lost the fight against Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, so you're trying to win online battles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Please provide a link to the completed designs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Please provide a link to the completed designs.

Is DCUM the only website that you know how to navigate to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

You’re so busy trying to win online battles that you’ve lost the plot.

DP. More accurately, you lost the fight against Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, so you're trying to win online battles.

Thanks for confirming that this is all about some weird psychological need for displaying dominance and not an actual concern for bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

You’re so busy trying to win online battles that you’ve lost the plot.

DP. More accurately, you lost the fight against Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, so you're trying to win online battles.

Thanks for confirming that this is all about some weird psychological need for displaying dominance and not an actual concern for bike lanes.

You keep insisting that DC residents have no say-so over the Old Georgetown Road bike lanes because they're in Bethesda, Maryland, and yet here you are, busy hating on the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, which are in DC and have been strongly supported by DC voters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

You’re so busy trying to win online battles that you’ve lost the plot.

DP. More accurately, you lost the fight against Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, so you're trying to win online battles.

Thanks for confirming that this is all about some weird psychological need for displaying dominance and not an actual concern for bike lanes.

You keep insisting that DC residents have no say-so over the Old Georgetown Road bike lanes because they're in Bethesda, Maryland, and yet here you are, busy hating on the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, which are in DC and have been strongly supported by DC voters.

You’re confusing me with a different person. But it’s interesting that there is only one cycling poster here. Makes sense because hardly anyone bikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

You’re so busy trying to win online battles that you’ve lost the plot.

DP. More accurately, you lost the fight against Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, so you're trying to win online battles.

Thanks for confirming that this is all about some weird psychological need for displaying dominance and not an actual concern for bike lanes.

You keep insisting that DC residents have no say-so over the Old Georgetown Road bike lanes because they're in Bethesda, Maryland, and yet here you are, busy hating on the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, which are in DC and have been strongly supported by DC voters.

You’re confusing me with a different person. But it’s interesting that there is only one cycling poster here. Makes sense because hardly anyone bikes.

No dude, we can tell its you on both threads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

You’re so busy trying to win online battles that you’ve lost the plot.

DP. More accurately, you lost the fight against Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, so you're trying to win online battles.

Thanks for confirming that this is all about some weird psychological need for displaying dominance and not an actual concern for bike lanes.

You keep insisting that DC residents have no say-so over the Old Georgetown Road bike lanes because they're in Bethesda, Maryland, and yet here you are, busy hating on the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes, which are in DC and have been strongly supported by DC voters.

You’re confusing me with a different person. But it’s interesting that there is only one cycling poster here. Makes sense because hardly anyone bikes.

No dude, we can tell its you on both threads.

There’s no conspiracy dude. Put down the hoppy IPA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

Sorry, what is your point supposed to be? Like, for someone like me, who already rides my bike/drives my car/takes Metro on Connecticut now and will continue doing all three once there are bike lanes, and who also has no intention of attending a public meeting or submitting a public comment on any of these plans, what is it you think I should be doing instead of reading this amusing message board thread? I support the bike lanes and want them to be built. It probably won't kill me if they are never built, unless I get unlucky in a collision. Whatever I'm reading during random bits of free time has absolutely no impact on what the D.C. government does or doesn't do. I strongly suspect that's the case for every person reading this thread. How is whatever you're doing helping prevent the bike lanes from being installed, exactly?

You’re so busy trying to win online battles that you’ve lost the plot.

I’m not trying to win any battles, I just like reading the crossfire. I trust the D.C. government to install the bike lanes, as they said they would. If they don’t, it won’t be because of what I posted here. I have a preference for the bike lanes as a matter of public policy and a matter of personal convenience, but it doesn’t really matter to me if I get what I want or not. That’s pretty much the whole plot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search