Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

You the same person swearing up and down that they weren’t doing another traffic study?

[Anonymous]

FY23 = F the Ops we’re doing bike lanes

FY24 = Oh crap, we have a $4 billion budget gap projects canceled

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

Narrator: There are not yet any final designs, because, they have not been produced. Despite multiple people asking the PP who made the assertion, there is no website official or otherwise, that show them, because they don't exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

Narrator: There are not yet any final designs, because, they have not been produced. Despite multiple people asking the PP who made the assertion, there is no website official or otherwise, that show them, because they don't exist.

That’s just not correct. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

Narrator: There are not yet any final designs, because, they have not been produced. Despite multiple people asking the PP who made the assertion, there is no website official or otherwise, that show them, because they don't exist.

That’s just not correct. Sorry.

What is incorrect? Be specific and provide links to back up your claims.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

Narrator: There are not yet any final designs, because, they have not been produced. Despite multiple people asking the PP who made the assertion, there is no website official or otherwise, that show them, because they don't exist.

That’s just not correct. Sorry.

What is incorrect? Be specific and provide links to back up your claims.

I’m sorry what? If you haven’t bothered to understand what you’re talking about, my job isn’t to do your work. Look it up yourself.

[Anonymous]

I really appreciate the concern for bureaucracy here. You all are really focused on the right things in life. Who needs the outdoors or social interaction.

[Anonymous]

Tired: fighting the plan for bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue, and losing
Wired: insisting on an anonymous internet message board that the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes won't happen

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

Narrator: There are not yet any final designs, because, they have not been produced. Despite multiple people asking the PP who made the assertion, there is no website official or otherwise, that show them, because they don't exist.

That’s just not correct. Sorry.

What is incorrect? Be specific and provide links to back up your claims.

I’m sorry what? If you haven’t bothered to understand what you’re talking about, my job isn’t to do your work. Look it up yourself.

You claimed there were final designs. I asked you where they were. It should be an easy answer if the claim were true, but the designs on the project page on the DDOTDC website are not final plans, so if you claim there are plans, then where are they?

Since you have failed to produce them, you have validated that you are FOS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

Narrator: There are not yet any final designs, because, they have not been produced. Despite multiple people asking the PP who made the assertion, there is no website official or otherwise, that show them, because they don't exist.

That’s just not correct. Sorry.

What is incorrect? Be specific and provide links to back up your claims.

I’m sorry what? If you haven’t bothered to understand what you’re talking about, my job isn’t to do your work. Look it up yourself.

You claimed there were final designs. I asked you where they were. It should be an easy answer if the claim were true, but the designs on the project page on the DDOTDC website are not final plans, so if you claim there are plans, then where are they?

Since you have failed to produce them, you have validated that you are FOS.

I see that you are having a normal one. Believe it or not, the world doesn’t exist to serve you and no one has to prove anything to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

Narrator: There are not yet any final designs, because, they have not been produced. Despite multiple people asking the PP who made the assertion, there is no website official or otherwise, that show them, because they don't exist.

That’s just not correct. Sorry.

What is incorrect? Be specific and provide links to back up your claims.

I’m sorry what? If you haven’t bothered to understand what you’re talking about, my job isn’t to do your work. Look it up yourself.

You claimed there were final designs. I asked you where they were. It should be an easy answer if the claim were true, but the designs on the project page on the DDOTDC website are not final plans, so if you claim there are plans, then where are they?

Since you have failed to produce them, you have validated that you are FOS.

I see that you are having a normal one. Believe it or not, the world doesn’t exist to serve you and no one has to prove anything to you.

True, but an assertion was made and it is a false assertion, which makes the person who made it a liar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?

Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.

No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.

Not true. They are only refining the design now. It’s already been completed.

Where can we see this completed design?

Are you planning to bid on the job? Maybe check here? https://contracts.ocp.dc.gov/solicitations/search

There are no bids out for completed designs for the Conn Ave bike lanes.

A PP suggested there were completed designs. I am asking for proof of the statement. To date, no one has provided any.

Because there aren't.

Yet.

Keep checking.

Narrator: There are not yet any final designs, because, they have not been produced. Despite multiple people asking the PP who made the assertion, there is no website official or otherwise, that show them, because they don't exist.

That’s just not correct. Sorry.

What is incorrect? Be specific and provide links to back up your claims.

I’m sorry what? If you haven’t bothered to understand what you’re talking about, my job isn’t to do your work. Look it up yourself.

You claimed there were final designs. I asked you where they were. It should be an easy answer if the claim were true, but the designs on the project page on the DDOTDC website are not final plans, so if you claim there are plans, then where are they?

Since you have failed to produce them, you have validated that you are FOS.

I see that you are having a normal one. Believe it or not, the world doesn’t exist to serve you and no one has to prove anything to you.

True, but an assertion was made and it is a false assertion, which makes the person who made it a liar.

Don’t sweat that PP, but also not sure why you are getting so upset. Like seriously.

[Anonymous]

No one is "upset" - but am curious as to where these so-called final designs are. When someone tried to gaslight me, I will expose it. This person made a knowingly false assertion and was called out on it. I hope Jeff considers banning them.