Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?


Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?

After all this drama, how is it possible that no one knows when construction is even going to start or more importantly when they are going to be finished?

It’s almost like the bike people prefer performative posturing above all else.

This thing is starting to give off serious NYC congestion pricing vibes, meaning that it seems like the powers that be just wish it would go away.
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Anonymous wrote:The editorial was absurd. It acknowledges that thousands of cars will be diverted to side streets. It implies that bikes will be used mostly during rush hour. It implies that current bike usage may not justify bike lanes. On Thursday, I drove downtown from CC Circle to K Street at roughly 9 am. I saw one bike, on the side walk, western side. I returned at roughly 1015 am. I saw one bike on the Avenue itself, eastern side near Uptown Theater. Thursday was a beautiful winter day. Yes, of course, I am aware that many were on vacation or out of town. Meanwhile, hundreds of cars were on the Avenue.


I'm curious if you read the part of the editorial where the editors invoked various studies to explain how all of the objections trotted out to oppose the bike lanes are, for want of a better term, total horseshit. The comments section contains a lot of useful information too.


There is zero chance that diverting thousands of cars onto the side streets will not cause more accidents and unfortunate injuries and likely a death or two.


I could say that it’s completely certain that the installation of the bike lanes will result in the spontaneous advent of trillions of levitating leprechauns. And that would have just about as much factual basis as your respective claim.


Presumably, you believe that more guns lead to more deaths, whether by accident or not. Presumably, you believe that those who oppose stronger gun laws are, in part, to blame for the deaths caused by guns. Then, presumably, you believe that increasing traffic in residential neighborhoods will increase accidents in those neighborhoods. Then, presumably, you believe that those who favor increasing traffic in residential areas will be, in part, to blame for the inevitable accidents and injuries. It is called holding people accountable for their policy preferences.


You're the one getting in a car and driving it. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
Anonymous
There are going to be some people out there on Connecticut Avenue shaking their fists at the construction crews building the bike lanes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are going to be some people out there on Connecticut Avenue shaking their fists at the construction crews building the bike lanes.

When is that going to happen? When does construction start? Why is the city slow walking this?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There are going to be some people out there on Connecticut Avenue shaking their fists at the construction crews building the bike lanes.

When is that going to happen? When does construction start? Why is the city slow walking this?

It says a lot that cyclists are focused more on arguing with people who oppose the change than any concern about when this is actually is going to happen. If lives are so at stake, why are you still arguing with opponents and giving them the middle finger but have no concern about when these bike lanes will be delivered. It’s almost as if the goal is exercising power and not about safety or anything else.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The editorial was absurd. It acknowledges that thousands of cars will be diverted to side streets. It implies that bikes will be used mostly during rush hour. It implies that current bike usage may not justify bike lanes. On Thursday, I drove downtown from CC Circle to K Street at roughly 9 am. I saw one bike, on the side walk, western side. I returned at roughly 1015 am. I saw one bike on the Avenue itself, eastern side near Uptown Theater. Thursday was a beautiful winter day. Yes, of course, I am aware that many were on vacation or out of town. Meanwhile, hundreds of cars were on the Avenue.


I'm curious if you read the part of the editorial where the editors invoked various studies to explain how all of the objections trotted out to oppose the bike lanes are, for want of a better term, total horseshit. The comments section contains a lot of useful information too.


There is zero chance that diverting thousands of cars onto the side streets will not cause more accidents and unfortunate injuries and likely a death or two.


I could say that it’s completely certain that the installation of the bike lanes will result in the spontaneous advent of trillions of levitating leprechauns. And that would have just about as much factual basis as your respective claim.


Presumably, you believe that more guns lead to more deaths, whether by accident or not. Presumably, you believe that those who oppose stronger gun laws are, in part, to blame for the deaths caused by guns. Then, presumably, you believe that increasing traffic in residential neighborhoods will increase accidents in those neighborhoods. Then, presumably, you believe that those who favor increasing traffic in residential areas will be, in part, to blame for the inevitable accidents and injuries. It is called holding people accountable for their policy preferences.


You're the one getting in a car and driving it. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?


You clearly missed the point. But then again you perhaps favor open carry laws in DC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?


Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?


Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"
Anonymous
All city construction is slow and uncertain. I wish it were all faster, not just bike lanes, but every single project!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?


Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?


Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All city construction is slow and uncertain. I wish it were all faster, not just bike lanes, but every single project!

Will the money be available next FY when this thing is shovel ready? Nothing like novices playing checkers when the game is chess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?


Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?


Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.


No, they have never had a final design. In fact, they spent weeks at the end of the summer walking the Avenue with the community to hone the concept designs that had been presented earlier in 2022.

To my knowledge, DDOT has not come back to the community with those revised/honed designs.

So let's stop lying about where we are in the process.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:All city construction is slow and uncertain. I wish it were all faster, not just bike lanes, but every single project!

Will the money be available next FY when this thing is shovel ready? Nothing like novices playing checkers when the game is chess.


Yes, it is already in the budget.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?


Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?


Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.


There won't be more traffic studies.
There won't be another feasibity study.
There may be some minor refinements once the next round is released, though not likey, and certainly not material to the overall project.
There will be more stakeholder meetings, to present the final plans and move into the next phase.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When do they start construction?


Most likely early 2024.

Most likely or definitely? I thought this was a done deal and that it was already funded in the budget?


Depends on when final designs are presented and approved. That could be late spring or late summer 2023. Then it has to go through contracting, which could take a few months to many months, to a year or more. The plan all along has been construction in 2024, but there are variables, hence, "most likely"

They already have a final design. They are using valuable time to reopen many things that I have heard frequently were already completed and decided. Here’s a list of things they are redoing:
- another traffic study
- another feasibility study
- design refinements
- more stakeholder meetings

All of these things need to be done before procurement can start. The Fiscal Year ends September 30. They’re running out the clock and you’re wasting your time gloating and acting a fool about a pyhrric victory. This is capital “F” funny.
The FY ends September 30.


There won't be more traffic studies.
There won't be another feasibity study.
There may be some minor refinements once the next round is released, though not likey, and certainly not material to the overall project.
There will be more stakeholder meetings, to present the final plans and move into the next phase.

You’re misinformed. But I appreciate how committed you are to posting about bike lanes instead caring about whether they built. Nice show of dominance or something.
https://ddot.dc.gov/page/connecticut-avenue-nw-reversible-lane-safety-and-operations-study
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All city construction is slow and uncertain. I wish it were all faster, not just bike lanes, but every single project!

Will the money be available next FY when this thing is shovel ready? Nothing like novices playing checkers when the game is chess.


Yes, it is already in the budget.

It is budgeted for this FY.
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