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04/08/2021 10:51

Subject: Can we boycott Georgia?

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the facts. CO v. GA:

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/07/984857562/fact-check-how-colorado-georgia-voting-laws-differ-despite-conservatives-claims

"There's a major difference between the states, though: Colorado votes by mail. Every registered voter receives a ballot about 15 to 20 days before the election. And instead of waiting in line at a polling station, the vast majority simply drop the ballot in a mailbox or a secure dropbox.

According to information from the secretary of state, 99.3% of Colorado primary voters used one of those methods last year.

So, while it's true that Colorado has fewer days for in-person voting, it also has far less demand for in-person voting. Voters rarely encounter lines here. And the ultimate result of Colorado's system is relatively high turnout."

The vast majority of states do NOT mail a ballot to every registered voter.
I guess because GA doesn't, that is a reason to boycott them?

Are you always this obtuse?

The GOP specifically used Colorado as the comparison. And it's not a good one. They just flat out lied (again).

Also, you are failing to acknowledge that the entire motivation for the GA changes have zero to do with election integrity: the Governor and SoS (both R's) said the election was fair and square and no integrity issues. The change was made b/c the R's lost. And they don't want to lose again. So they are lying about the need for change and changing to stack the deck. THAT is the problem. SUrely, even you understand that?

And I'd note that I challenge your premise as somehow probative of anything. Deployed military votes by mail. THere are states that vote by mail. And more states are opening up that option. GA has chosen to do the opposite for the reasons note above, that is, to prevent them from losing and nothing else.

From my post above:

So, if the GA legislature had not passed this law....
- Drop boxes would have completely gone away since they were only an emergency measure during Covid and not part of GA law.
- Nothing would have been done about the long lines at polling places. The new law addresses that.
- The extended weekend voting hours would not be in place since those were not part of GA law.
- Signature verification for absentee voting would have remained in place - this is more subjective than having an ID number of some type (and the type that is allowed is VERY flexible in GA)

IOW - much of what happened in 2020 was a result of emergency measures. They were not part of GA law and would have disappeared.

As to your post about mail in voting.....
It takes years to move EFFICIENTLY and EFFECTIVELY to mail in voting so that integrity in the vote is not called into question. It is not an overnight deal or something that can be done in a few months.

And, it would require removing people from the voting rolls.... something GA was crucified for by liberals in the past.
Here is a snippet of what Utah did....

KELLY: So I have to ask you, as a Republican elected official, what do you make of the president and his allies insisting over and over that mail-in ballots will lead to fraud, will lead to a rigged election?

COX: Well, what I have to say is it depends on how you run the election. And when I say we've been at this for a long time, we didn't just start overnight sending out ballots to everyone in the state of Utah. This is something that we've done over the course of the last 10 years. We started out in municipal elections, very small, and we moved to a few counties. We allowed people to opt in, and we slowly built it out with all of these procedures in place. We remove people. We go over the death certificates every month and remove people who are - who have passed away. We get reports from the post office every month letting us know that people have moved.

And so we've done a really good job of making sure that the system works and that it's accountable to the people. And so I can - you know, I can't speak for other states. I don't know that they're doing those same things. It would be very hard. I'm really glad I don't have to do this in the course of just a few months. It would be very difficult to pull off.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/06/920859123/lessons-other-states-might-learn-from-utahs-success-with-mail-in-ballots

What is your point? There was no fraud in GA that needed to be addressed. Everything went well. Why did they have to pass a law if everything went well and their elections officials ran an efficient and effective election? Why take power away from your elections officials?

What's my point? You're kidding right?
They had measures in place that were only emergency measures and not in their law. Like drop boxes. And, weekend voting hours.
The law actually codified those measures. Whether there was fraud or not is not the issue. Voting laws change.
And, for the record - there was fraud. But, you probably haven't heard about that from your news sources.

https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/state_election_board_refers_voter_fraud_cases_for_prosecution

The New Georgia Project which allegedly submitted 1,268 voter registration applications after the 10-day deadline, causing voters to be disenfranchised in the March 19, 2019 special election

· Samunta S of Atlanta for allegedly submitting 70 false voter registration applications while canvassing for the Coalition for the People’s Agenda

· Floyd J and the Fayette County Board of Elections and Voter Registration where he was director at the time for alleged improper handling of four memory cards registering 2,760 votes in the Nov. 3, 2020 general election

· Joseph B of Atlanta for allegedly registering to vote while serving a felony sentence

· Hassan M of Decatur for allegedly voting while serving a felony sentence

· Michael W of Columbus for allegedly voting while serving a felony sentence

· Brian P of Cherry Log for allegedly voting while serving a felony sentence

· Talibah B of Lilburn for allegedly submitting a false voter registration application

· Sharmaine S of Lithonia for allegedly submitting a false voter registration application

· Sophia S of Valdosta for allegedly voting in another person’s name

· Albert N of Winder for allegedly voting as a non-citizen

· Sean W of Covington for allegedly voting as a non-citizen

· Clifton S of Fairburn for allegedly registering to vote as a non-citizen

· Hurlstone H of Locust Grove for allegedly voting as a non-citizen

Those "emergency measures" are being adopted in many places now b/c they are effective at allowing as many people to vote as possible. But you know that.

And as for the years are needed to be effective - we know that isn't true. THey were effective last year and integrity (acc. to GOP politicians in the state and judges throughout the country) intact. Further, there is not need to reinvent the wheel as it's done effectively for the military and in other states.

What is your next argument?