FEINSTEIN: Hun, it’s time for you to retire!

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Anonymous wrote:Feinstein is reminding me of RBG at the end. They both thought that they were more important than their ideals and hung on long enough to gravely damage what they believed in. If Feinstein does't step down before 2024, and Biden loses then she's helped cement a conservative judiciary just as much as RBG did by not resigning while Obama had the senate.


Disagree. You are basing this on your political beliefs. And, in that, you are correct.

But, RBG did her job and was alert.

When would you have had her resign? Obama's last nominee to the Supreme Court did not get put forward. Would you have had her resign in his first term?

Feinstein should not have run for the Senate this last time. Her staff has been running the show more than most staffs for a very long time.


I would have had RBG resign because she was already past 75 when Obama was inaugurated and she was the justice furtherest to the left. If she wanted her replacement to embody her views, she needed to step down under a democratic president who had a democratic senate. She held on too long and ended up being replaced by a 48 year old woman who could spend the next 30 years undoing her legacy


DP and I get it, I just don’t think it was as clear cut as the situation with Feinstein right now. Supreme Court is a lifetime appointment (although it probably shouldn’t be), RBG was mentally fit until the end, and there’s no guarantee that Obama could have gotten a nominee through a republican senate during his second term. Plus, most of the pundits were picking Clinton to win. In hindsight yeah, she should have stepped down but I don’t think it was as clear at the time, and she still almost made it through the trump years.

Does Feinstein even know what is going on or is her staff pulling all the strings (and not wanting to be out of their jobs)? This is partly on Schumer too because he never should have reappointed her to the judiciary committee.


You really can not say this. There was a cult around her who shielded her. We have no idea if she was mentally fit. You have to look at a person’s full career to evaluate it’s worth. In reality RGB decision to stay on eases all her work and locked in a republicans radical majority on the bench for 30-40 years. RGB was a failure. Feinstein will be looked at the same way.


NP I agree with this. RGB brought about the downfall of her own legacy, and actually put the entire country at risk of devolving into theocracy by refusing to retire, even when she was diagnosed with a cancer that is nearly always terminal. Feinstein likewise has been unable to do her job for years, and everyone around her knows it, and yet she refuses to retire. I am not going to respect someone for doing so much for liberal causes when their own selfishness and vanity causes them to refuse to give up a title when keeping it puts all of those accomplishments at risk. I am just so angry at top democrats for allowing this to go on. Republicans wouldn't.
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I'm just assuming that Thomas (74) and Alito (72) step down the next time there is a republican president with a republic senate. Replacing them with justices in their 40s or 50s cements republican dominance for decades
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Anonymous wrote:Feinstein is reminding me of RBG at the end. They both thought that they were more important than their ideals and hung on long enough to gravely damage what they believed in. If Feinstein does't step down before 2024, and Biden loses then she's helped cement a conservative judiciary just as much as RBG did by not resigning while Obama had the senate.


Disagree. You are basing this on your political beliefs. And, in that, you are correct.

But, RBG did her job and was alert.

When would you have had her resign? Obama's last nominee to the Supreme Court did not get put forward. Would you have had her resign in his first term?

Feinstein should not have run for the Senate this last time. Her staff has been running the show more than most staffs for a very long time.


I would have had RBG resign because she was already past 75 when Obama was inaugurated and she was the justice furtherest to the left. If she wanted her replacement to embody her views, she needed to step down under a democratic president who had a democratic senate. She held on too long and ended up being replaced by a 48 year old woman who could spend the next 30 years undoing her legacy


DP and I get it, I just don’t think it was as clear cut as the situation with Feinstein right now. Supreme Court is a lifetime appointment (although it probably shouldn’t be), RBG was mentally fit until the end, and there’s no guarantee that Obama could have gotten a nominee through a republican senate during his second term. Plus, most of the pundits were picking Clinton to win. In hindsight yeah, she should have stepped down but I don’t think it was as clear at the time, and she still almost made it through the trump years.

Does Feinstein even know what is going on or is her staff pulling all the strings (and not wanting to be out of their jobs)? This is partly on Schumer too because he never should have reappointed her to the judiciary committee.


You really can not say this. There was a cult around her who shielded her. We have no idea if she was mentally fit. You have to look at a person’s full career to evaluate it’s worth. In reality RGB decision to stay on eases all her work and locked in a republicans radical majority on the bench for 30-40 years. RGB was a failure. Feinstein will be looked at the same way.


NP I agree with this. RGB brought about the downfall of her own legacy, and actually put the entire country at risk of devolving into theocracy by refusing to retire, even when she was diagnosed with a cancer that is nearly always terminal. Feinstein likewise has been unable to do her job for years, and everyone around her knows it, and yet she refuses to retire. I am not going to respect someone for doing so much for liberal causes when their own selfishness and vanity causes them to refuse to give up a title when keeping it puts all of those accomplishments at risk. I am just so angry at top democrats for allowing this to go on. Republicans wouldn't.


RBG expected Hillary Clinton to win in 2016 and appoint her replacement.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just assuming that Thomas (74) and Alito (72) step down the next time there is a republican president with a republic senate. Replacing them with justices in their 40s or 50s cements republican dominance for decades


They won’t. Too much hubris.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm just assuming that Thomas (74) and Alito (72) step down the next time there is a republican president with a republic senate. Replacing them with justices in their 40s or 50s cements republican dominance for decades


They won’t. Too much hubris.


No they know they are just political hacks and are easily replaced. They just follow the orders from the federalist society.
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Anonymous wrote:Feinstein is reminding me of RBG at the end. They both thought that they were more important than their ideals and hung on long enough to gravely damage what they believed in. If Feinstein does't step down before 2024, and Biden loses then she's helped cement a conservative judiciary just as much as RBG did by not resigning while Obama had the senate.


Disagree. You are basing this on your political beliefs. And, in that, you are correct.

But, RBG did her job and was alert.

When would you have had her resign? Obama's last nominee to the Supreme Court did not get put forward. Would you have had her resign in his first term?

Feinstein should not have run for the Senate this last time. Her staff has been running the show more than most staffs for a very long time.


I would have had RBG resign because she was already past 75 when Obama was inaugurated and she was the justice furtherest to the left. If she wanted her replacement to embody her views, she needed to step down under a democratic president who had a democratic senate. She held on too long and ended up being replaced by a 48 year old woman who could spend the next 30 years undoing her legacy


DP and I get it, I just don’t think it was as clear cut as the situation with Feinstein right now. Supreme Court is a lifetime appointment (although it probably shouldn’t be), RBG was mentally fit until the end, and there’s no guarantee that Obama could have gotten a nominee through a republican senate during his second term. Plus, most of the pundits were picking Clinton to win. In hindsight yeah, she should have stepped down but I don’t think it was as clear at the time, and she still almost made it through the trump years.

Does Feinstein even know what is going on or is her staff pulling all the strings (and not wanting to be out of their jobs)? This is partly on Schumer too because he never should have reappointed her to the judiciary committee.


You really can not say this. There was a cult around her who shielded her. We have no idea if she was mentally fit. You have to look at a person’s full career to evaluate it’s worth. In reality RGB decision to stay on eases all her work and locked in a republicans radical majority on the bench for 30-40 years. RGB was a failure. Feinstein will be looked at the same way.


NP I agree with this. RGB brought about the downfall of her own legacy, and actually put the entire country at risk of devolving into theocracy by refusing to retire, even when she was diagnosed with a cancer that is nearly always terminal. Feinstein likewise has been unable to do her job for years, and everyone around her knows it, and yet she refuses to retire. I am not going to respect someone for doing so much for liberal causes when their own selfishness and vanity causes them to refuse to give up a title when keeping it puts all of those accomplishments at risk. I am just so angry at top democrats for allowing this to go on. Republicans wouldn't.


RBG expected Hillary Clinton to win in 2016 and appoint her replacement.


And she ended up being replaced by ABC as a result ensuring a very conservative vote for 40+ years
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UFB

Tome to go, Hon.

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Tome to go, Hon.


Biden is going to veto this and they don't have the votes to override... So not a big deal really.
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Anonymous wrote:UFB

Tome to go, Hon.


Biden is going to veto this and they don't have the votes to override... So not a big deal really.


Biden doesn't care about what impact these ridiculous rules set by the EPA will have on the economy or business.

“The irony is, the prices of newer vehicles will escalate, incentivizing truckers and businesses to hold onto their older, higher-emitting trucks,” Sen. Deb Fischer, R-Neb., sponsor of the resolution, said in a Wednesday floor speech. “Smaller, more affordable trucking businesses will close up shop, and the ones that can afford higher prices will raise their rates. This means consumers will be paying more money to a smaller group of businesses.”

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:UFB

Tome to go, Hon.


Biden is going to veto this and they don't have the votes to override... So not a big deal really.


Biden doesn't care about what impact these ridiculous rules set by the EPA will have on the economy or business.

“The irony is, the prices of newer vehicles will escalate, incentivizing truckers and businesses to hold onto their older, higher-emitting trucks,” Sen. Deb Fischer, R-Neb., sponsor of the resolution, said in a Wednesday floor speech. “Smaller, more affordable trucking businesses will close up shop, and the ones that can afford higher prices will raise their rates. This means consumers will be paying more money to a smaller group of businesses.”



Lol Fischer? She is a right wing nut job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UFB

Tome to go, Hon.


Biden is going to veto this and they don't have the votes to override... So not a big deal really.


Biden doesn't care about what impact these ridiculous rules set by the EPA will have on the economy or business.

“The irony is, the prices of newer vehicles will escalate, incentivizing truckers and businesses to hold onto their older, higher-emitting trucks,” Sen. Deb Fischer, R-Neb., sponsor of the resolution, said in a Wednesday floor speech. “Smaller, more affordable trucking businesses will close up shop, and the ones that can afford higher prices will raise their rates. This means consumers will be paying more money to a smaller group of businesses.”



Lol Fischer? She is a right wing nut job.


And, the goons in the EPA are left wing nutjobs intent on destroying our economy and way of life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UFB

Tome to go, Hon.


Biden is going to veto this and they don't have the votes to override... So not a big deal really.


Biden doesn't care about what impact these ridiculous rules set by the EPA will have on the economy or business.

“The irony is, the prices of newer vehicles will escalate, incentivizing truckers and businesses to hold onto their older, higher-emitting trucks,” Sen. Deb Fischer, R-Neb., sponsor of the resolution, said in a Wednesday floor speech. “Smaller, more affordable trucking businesses will close up shop, and the ones that can afford higher prices will raise their rates. This means consumers will be paying more money to a smaller group of businesses.”



Lol Fischer? She is a right wing nut job.


And, the goons in the EPA are left wing nutjobs intent on destroying our economy [b]and way of life. [/b]


If you think EPA rules are ruining "our" way of life, you really aren't going to like what unmitigated climate change does to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UFB

Tome to go, Hon.


Biden is going to veto this and they don't have the votes to override... So not a big deal really.


Biden doesn't care about what impact these ridiculous rules set by the EPA will have on the economy or business.

“The irony is, the prices of newer vehicles will escalate, incentivizing truckers and businesses to hold onto their older, higher-emitting trucks,” Sen. Deb Fischer, R-Neb., sponsor of the resolution, said in a Wednesday floor speech. “Smaller, more affordable trucking businesses will close up shop, and the ones that can afford higher prices will raise their rates. This means consumers will be paying more money to a smaller group of businesses.”



Lol Fischer? She is a right wing nut job.


And, the goons in the EPA are left wing nutjobs intent on destroying our economy and way of life.


Our way of life is not sustainable. We can't keep spewing fossil fuel carbon into the atmosphere or we won't have a planet to have a way of life in.
Anonymous
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Time for her to retire.
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