Is admiring the vibe of private students a shallow motivation for sending our children to private?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thinks this forum is full of women insecure of their socioeconomic status.

They react with pain to threads that touch on class differences - expensive education, country clubs, what cars millionaires drive, etc.

This might be right generally, but the concerns about country clubs aren’t necessarily coming from people who can’t afford them. The CC posts seem to reflect concerns about clubs that have long histories of discrimination and racism, among other issues. We can easily afford a cc. Most of our friends can. We all send our kids to privates. We have second (and third) homes. But the history of these clubs, along with an ethos of exclusion with no relation to merit, is what we’ve observed can create some pretty intolerant and entitled kids and families. We’re not anti-money. But discrimination? A history of race-based exclusion? We’re white but don’t want part of that.

Exclusion with no regard to merit? DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF? As if private school acceptance is all merit-based?

*bangs head on desk*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it’s not the people that PP hates it’s the “values of the club.”
What are the values of those clubs today that you hate so much? All I know is there are people that pay to join in order to exercise, local community hanging out, kid birthday parties, swimming, bowling, tennis, golf.

What’s your beef with country clubs in 2020?

I am a new poster here and really have no dog in this fight except that you seem very obtuse. I have friends that grew up here that could not swim or go to Chevy in the 1990s because they were African-American or Jewish so you seem very clueless about the reality. Imagine now in 2020 sending your kids to a school where 1/4 of the parents belong to a club that you were not allowed to go to growing up because you were Jewish or African-American. Now imagine running into those same families and grandparents at your kids school functions - some of whom were at the club when you were not allowed there and see how that feels. Let that sink in for a minute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s not the people that PP hates it’s the “values of the club.”
What are the values of those clubs today that you hate so much? All I know is there are people that pay to join in order to exercise, local community hanging out, kid birthday parties, swimming, bowling, tennis, golf.

What’s your beef with country clubs in 2020?

I am a new poster here and really have no dog in this fight except that you seem very obtuse. I have friends that grew up here that could not swim or go to Chevy in the 1990s because they were African-American or Jewish so you seem very clueless about the reality. Imagine now in 2020 sending your kids to a school where 1/4 of the parents belong to a club that you were not allowed to go to growing up because you were Jewish or African-American. Now imagine running into those same families and grandparents at your kids school functions - some of whom were at the club when you were not allowed there and see how that feels. Let that sink in for a minute.

NP. Well said!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s not the people that PP hates it’s the “values of the club.”
What are the values of those clubs today that you hate so much? All I know is there are people that pay to join in order to exercise, local community hanging out, kid birthday parties, swimming, bowling, tennis, golf.

What’s your beef with country clubs in 2020?

I am a new poster here and really have no dog in this fight except that you seem very obtuse. I have friends that grew up here that could not swim or go to Chevy in the 1990s because they were African-American or Jewish so you seem very clueless about the reality. Imagine now in 2020 sending your kids to a school where 1/4 of the parents belong to a club that you were not allowed to go to growing up because you were Jewish or African-American. Now imagine running into those same families and grandparents at your kids school functions - some of whom were at the club when you were not allowed there and see how that feels. Let that sink in for a minute.

So what can help you get over this? Anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thinks this forum is full of women insecure of their socioeconomic status.

They react with pain to threads that touch on class differences - expensive education, country clubs, what cars millionaires drive, etc.

I think this actually cuts the other way. Women who are insecure about their socioeconomic status want to know what cars people drive and where they send their kids to school because it gives them a yardstick with which to measure themselves. They’re not angry; they crave those threads.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know, folks. Does paying for a carefully cultivated ($40k+ a year) patrician air (and maybe sense of noblesse oblige depending on the school) still have the ROI it used to? Or are we headed into a dystopian future (e.g., climate change, class warfare, technological domination) where it’s better to be scrappy and inbound by traditional social mores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s not the people that PP hates it’s the “values of the club.”
What are the values of those clubs today that you hate so much? All I know is there are people that pay to join in order to exercise, local community hanging out, kid birthday parties, swimming, bowling, tennis, golf.

What’s your beef with country clubs in 2020?

I am a new poster here and really have no dog in this fight except that you seem very obtuse. I have friends that grew up here that could not swim or go to Chevy in the 1990s because they were African-American or Jewish so you seem very clueless about the reality. Imagine now in 2020 sending your kids to a school where 1/4 of the parents belong to a club that you were not allowed to go to growing up because you were Jewish or African-American. Now imagine running into those same families and grandparents at your kids school functions - some of whom were at the club when you were not allowed there and see how that feels. Let that sink in for a minute.

So what can help you get over this? Anything?

Ok, now I’m banging my head on my desk.

P.S. you can go a (really nice) gym, play tennis for free or for much smaller fees, swim in your own backyard pool or neighborhood pool, bowl all over, golf at many area courses, and ice skate all over the DMV. You can do private lessons in all of these, and still pay far, far, far, far less than you pay to join chevy. You can also engage in these activities with a group of people that isn’t 95% white and heavily republican (at least lately). Face it, the amenities are nice, but there are tons of places to get these amenities for far less. It isn’t the bowling and tennis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s not the people that PP hates it’s the “values of the club.”
What are the values of those clubs today that you hate so much? All I know is there are people that pay to join in order to exercise, local community hanging out, kid birthday parties, swimming, bowling, tennis, golf.

What’s your beef with country clubs in 2020?

I am a new poster here and really have no dog in this fight except that you seem very obtuse. I have friends that grew up here that could not swim or go to Chevy in the 1990s because they were African-American or Jewish so you seem very clueless about the reality. Imagine now in 2020 sending your kids to a school where 1/4 of the parents belong to a club that you were not allowed to go to growing up because you were Jewish or African-American. Now imagine running into those same families and grandparents at your kids school functions - some of whom were at the club when you were not allowed there and see how that feels. Let that sink in for a minute.

So what can help you get over this? Anything?

Ok, now I’m banging my head on my desk.

P.S. you can go a (really nice) gym, play tennis for free or for much smaller fees, swim in your own backyard pool or neighborhood pool, bowl all over, golf at many area courses, and ice skate all over the DMV. You can do private lessons in all of these, and still pay far, far, far, far less than you pay to join chevy. You can also engage in these activities with a group of people that isn’t 95% white and heavily republican (at least lately). Face it, the amenities are nice, but there are tons of places to get these amenities for far less. It isn’t the bowling and tennis

I’m Bretton woods imf member and we dont have time to drive all around this clogged up area to do free stuff when the free stuff time slot is. It also doesn’t bother me how people choose to spend their money, esp on stuff not hurting anyone. Does my family joining bretton woods hurt you? Does how we choose to donate and spend our money hurt you? Do these current “Chevy” people hurt you? Do you actually know of any firsthand or just living the dcum dream?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m Bretton woods imf member and we dont have time to drive all around this clogged up area to do free stuff when the free stuff time slot is. It also doesn’t bother me how people choose to spend their money, esp on stuff not hurting anyone. Does my family joining bretton woods hurt you? Does how we choose to donate and spend our money hurt you? Do these current “Chevy” people hurt you? Do you actually know of any firsthand or just living the dcum dream?

Your tunnel vision view of the world and lack of introspection is simply terrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s not the people that PP hates it’s the “values of the club.”
What are the values of those clubs today that you hate so much? All I know is there are people that pay to join in order to exercise, local community hanging out, kid birthday parties, swimming, bowling, tennis, golf.

What’s your beef with country clubs in 2020?

I am a new poster here and really have no dog in this fight except that you seem very obtuse. I have friends that grew up here that could not swim or go to Chevy in the 1990s because they were African-American or Jewish so you seem very clueless about the reality. Imagine now in 2020 sending your kids to a school where 1/4 of the parents belong to a club that you were not allowed to go to growing up because you were Jewish or African-American. Now imagine running into those same families and grandparents at your kids school functions - some of whom were at the club when you were not allowed there and see how that feels. Let that sink in for a minute.

So what can help you get over this? Anything?

Ok, now I’m banging my head on my desk.

P.S. you can go a (really nice) gym, play tennis for free or for much smaller fees, swim in your own backyard pool or neighborhood pool, bowl all over, golf at many area courses, and ice skate all over the DMV. You can do private lessons in all of these, and still pay far, far, far, far less than you pay to join chevy. You can also engage in these activities with a group of people that isn’t 95% white and heavily republican (at least lately). Face it, the amenities are nice, but there are tons of places to get these amenities for far less. It isn’t the bowling and tennis

I’m Bretton woods imf member and we dont have time to drive all around this clogged up area to do free stuff when the free stuff time slot is. It also doesn’t bother me how people choose to spend their money, esp on stuff not hurting anyone. Does my family joining bretton woods hurt you? Does how we choose to donate and spend our money hurt you? Do these current “Chevy” people hurt you? Do you actually know of any firsthand or just living the dcum dream?

Are you serious...Bretton Woods is a dump! You have nothing in common with Chevy Chase C.C.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know what you are talking about and this cool factor does not affect career and personal life outcomes.

I would agree with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s not the people that PP hates it’s the “values of the club.”
What are the values of those clubs today that you hate so much? All I know is there are people that pay to join in order to exercise, local community hanging out, kid birthday parties, swimming, bowling, tennis, golf.

What’s your beef with country clubs in 2020?

I am a new poster here and really have no dog in this fight except that you seem very obtuse. I have friends that grew up here that could not swim or go to Chevy in the 1990s because they were African-American or Jewish so you seem very clueless about the reality. Imagine now in 2020 sending your kids to a school where 1/4 of the parents belong to a club that you were not allowed to go to growing up because you were Jewish or African-American. Now imagine running into those same families and grandparents at your kids school functions - some of whom were at the club when you were not allowed there and see how that feels. Let that sink in for a minute.

So what can help you get over this? Anything?

Ok, now I’m banging my head on my desk.

P.S. you can go a (really nice) gym, play tennis for free or for much smaller fees, swim in your own backyard pool or neighborhood pool, bowl all over, golf at many area courses, and ice skate all over the DMV. You can do private lessons in all of these, and still pay far, far, far, far less than you pay to join chevy. You can also engage in these activities with a group of people that isn’t 95% white and heavily republican (at least lately). Face it, the amenities are nice, but there are tons of places to get these amenities for far less. It isn’t the bowling and tennis

I’m Bretton woods imf member and we dont have time to drive all around this clogged up area to do free stuff when the free stuff time slot is. It also doesn’t bother me how people choose to spend their money, esp on stuff not hurting anyone. Does my family joining bretton woods hurt you? Does how we choose to donate and spend our money hurt you? Do these current “Chevy” people hurt you? Do you actually know of any firsthand or just living the dcum dream?

It varies. I would agree that for whatever reason the nicer and more inclusive parents at our school do tend to belong to Congressional, Columbia, or Kenwood or no club at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s not the people that PP hates it’s the “values of the club.”
What are the values of those clubs today that you hate so much? All I know is there are people that pay to join in order to exercise, local community hanging out, kid birthday parties, swimming, bowling, tennis, golf.

What’s your beef with country clubs in 2020?

I am a new poster here and really have no dog in this fight except that you seem very obtuse. I have friends that grew up here that could not swim or go to Chevy in the 1990s because they were African-American or Jewish so you seem very clueless about the reality. Imagine now in 2020 sending your kids to a school where 1/4 of the parents belong to a club that you were not allowed to go to growing up because you were Jewish or African-American. Now imagine running into those same families and grandparents at your kids school functions - some of whom were at the club when you were not allowed there and see how that feels. Let that sink in for a minute.

So what can help you get over this? Anything?

Ok, now I’m banging my head on my desk.

P.S. you can go a (really nice) gym, play tennis for free or for much smaller fees, swim in your own backyard pool or neighborhood pool, bowl all over, golf at many area courses, and ice skate all over the DMV. You can do private lessons in all of these, and still pay far, far, far, far less than you pay to join chevy. You can also engage in these activities with a group of people that isn’t 95% white and heavily republican (at least lately). Face it, the amenities are nice, but there are tons of places to get these amenities for far less. It isn’t the bowling and tennis

I’m Bretton woods imf member and we dont have time to drive all around this clogged up area to do free stuff when the free stuff time slot is. It also doesn’t bother me how people choose to spend their money, esp on stuff not hurting anyone. Does my family joining bretton woods hurt you? Does how we choose to donate and spend our money hurt you? Do these current “Chevy” people hurt you? Do you actually know of any firsthand or just living the dcum dream?

WTH is Bretton Woods

-Chevy Member

[Anonymous]

This American Life recently had an interview with a black person who grew up black in Russia by a black person in the US.

Although the interviewer claims that Russia was racist the Russian black person is completely free of being a victim. While the person who grew up in US (past segregation) felt victimized and she tried to pin it on the Russian one but the lady was not having it.


The difference between them was stark. Taking on victim mindset comes with self-limitations and personal growth hampering.

[Anonymous]

My DS13 has spent most of his education in a private school- he has no "vibe."
The only thing I *do* notice, is that he's more comfortable speaking with adults. I think it's because he's expected to advocate for himself, ask questions if he doesn't understand, etc.
There aren't good excuses for late or sloppy homework in his private school, so if he isn't resourceful, he can expect to be accountable. But no, he's not "cooler" than his public school counterparts-- quite the opposite, in fact.