Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

It's been a fun read but you guys are absolutely nuts. How about this, instead of trying to figure out how to spread the poor kids around, try to figure out a way to fight this FARMS epidemic plaguing Montgomery County. MoCo wasn't like this 25 years ago. (Hint: More government money to poor families isn't the answer)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember if The Superintendent get his way..we will be redoing this again in 5ish years. Fallsgrove will move to the new HS and RP will probably pick up some kids from #5 which will raise its FARMS rate.

I sincerely doubt that the boundary study for the Crown high school will involve rezoning elementary schools.

If RP loses Fallsgrove, it will be way under capacity.

Fallsgrove kids can go to Ritchie Park, then Julius West, then the Crown high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been a fun read but you guys are absolutely nuts. How about this, instead of trying to figure out how to spread the poor kids around, try to figure out a way to fight this FARMS epidemic plaguing Montgomery County. MoCo wasn't like this 25 years ago. (Hint: More government money to poor families isn't the answer)

However, no matter how much you might wish that it could be 1992 again, it can't be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been a fun read but you guys are absolutely nuts. How about this, instead of trying to figure out how to spread the poor kids around, try to figure out a way to fight this FARMS epidemic plaguing Montgomery County. MoCo wasn't like this 25 years ago. (Hint: More government money to poor families isn't the answer)

Deport would be an easy start

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember if The Superintendent get his way..we will be redoing this again in 5ish years. Fallsgrove will move to the new HS and RP will probably pick up some kids from #5 which will raise its FARMS rate.

I sincerely doubt that the boundary study for the Crown high school will involve rezoning elementary schools.

If RP loses Fallsgrove, it will be way under capacity.

Close super old, open-classroom, and completely under-enrolled Cold Spring (approx 40 kids per grade) and move them to RP and the RM district. Watch the shit show ensue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember if The Superintendent get his way..we will be redoing this again in 5ish years. Fallsgrove will move to the new HS and RP will probably pick up some kids from #5 which will raise its FARMS rate.

I sincerely doubt that the boundary study for the Crown high school will involve rezoning elementary schools.

If RP loses Fallsgrove, it will be way under capacity.

Fallsgrove kids can go to Ritchie Park, then Julius West, then the Crown high school.

Fallsgrove was put into RM specifically to decrease FARMS/diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's been a fun read but you guys are absolutely nuts. How about this, instead of trying to figure out how to spread the poor kids around, try to figure out a way to fight this FARMS epidemic plaguing Montgomery County. MoCo wasn't like this 25 years ago. (Hint: More government money to poor families isn't the answer)

However, no matter how much you might wish that it could be 1992 again, it can't be.

Wait, so the PP should just throw her hands up and we should all just keep watching the county turn into poverty, similar to PG county?

[Anonymous]

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So the only solution to make FARMS perfect in all 5 schools is to move around all other sections in each school all around.

Twinbrook doesn't want to lose any zones due to title 1. RP, Beall and CG. Currently RP & Beall are around 25% FARMs. I don't have numbers for CG in my mind.

It should be possible to create boundaries to distribute in RP, Beall, CG and RM#5. Fallsgrove has a shorter commute to Beall and CG. Change should start from there if MCPS doesn't want to have situations like 10% and 53% FARMs rate in the same high school cluster. In pretty much all options RP5 polygon was going to RP despite not having any strong argument for keeping it there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember if The Superintendent get his way..we will be redoing this again in 5ish years. Fallsgrove will move to the new HS and RP will probably pick up some kids from #5 which will raise its FARMS rate.

I sincerely doubt that the boundary study for the Crown high school will involve rezoning elementary schools.

If RP loses Fallsgrove, it will be way under capacity.

Fallsgrove kids can go to Ritchie Park, then Julius West, then the Crown high school.

Fallsgrove was put into RM specifically to decrease FARMS/diversity.

Fallsgrove was put into RM specifically because Ritchie Park was so under capacity and the Wootton cluster was over capacity.

http://www.gazette.net/gazette_archive/2000/200010/potomac/news/2687-1.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been a fun read but you guys are absolutely nuts. How about this, instead of trying to figure out how to spread the poor kids around, try to figure out a way to fight this FARMS epidemic plaguing Montgomery County. MoCo wasn't like this 25 years ago. (Hint: More government money to poor families isn't the answer)

You can do both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Fallsgrove was put into RM specifically to decrease FARMS/diversity.

Not true. It was capacity issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's been a fun read but you guys are absolutely nuts. How about this, instead of trying to figure out how to spread the poor kids around, try to figure out a way to fight this FARMS epidemic plaguing Montgomery County. MoCo wasn't like this 25 years ago. (Hint: More government money to poor families isn't the answer)

However, no matter how much you might wish that it could be 1992 again, it can't be.

Wait, so the PP should just throw her hands up and we should all just keep watching the county turn into poverty, similar to PG county?

Then perhaps PP should provide some specific actions that PP would like the Montgomery County government and/or MCPS to do to "fight the FARMS epidemic plaguing Montgomery County", taking into account the fact that it's 2017, not 1992, and nobody has a time machine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
So the only solution to make FARMS perfect in all 5 schools is to move around all other sections in each school all around.

Twinbrook doesn't want to lose any zones due to title 1. RP, Beall and CG. Currently RP & Beall are around 25% FARMs. I don't have numbers for CG in my mind.

It should be possible to create boundaries to distribute in RP, Beall, CG and RM#5. Fallsgrove has a shorter commute to Beall and CG. Change should start from there if MCPS doesn't want to have situations like 10% and 53% FARMs rate in the same high school cluster. In pretty much all options RP5 polygon was going to RP despite not having any strong argument for keeping it there.

But which zones will you move into RP to create/keep diversity? RP2? Then they lose their walkable school.

Also, as other PPs mentioned, Fallsgrove has both MPDU and Low Income housing voucher units: http://www.rockvillehe.org/. Some of the FARMS numbers at RP likely come from Fallsgrove, too (despite how people may view Fallsgrove). Park Potomac also has MPDUs.

[Anonymous]

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Agree. RP has always been the school that sucks. This won't change it. The areas leaving (especially the zone in walking distance) will be much happier. The principal, special services, and ESOL are just terrible. We have had high teacher turnover and a not so involved PTA. It is just stale.

This should be troubling for everyone in RM cluster. If Principal, special services, and ESOL is failing all kids in RP then they should be replaced.

Yes, but its never going to happen. The principal has the support of the central office. They are very protective of her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So the only solution to make FARMS perfect in all 5 schools is to move around all other sections in each school all around.

Twinbrook doesn't want to lose any zones due to title 1. RP, Beall and CG. Currently RP & Beall are around 25% FARMs. I don't have numbers for CG in my mind.

It should be possible to create boundaries to distribute in RP, Beall, CG and RM#5. Fallsgrove has a shorter commute to Beall and CG. Change should start from there if MCPS doesn't want to have situations like 10% and 53% FARMs rate in the same high school cluster. In pretty much all options RP5 polygon was going to RP despite not having any strong argument for keeping it there.

But which zones will you move into RP to create/keep diversity? RP2? Then they lose their walkable school.

Also, as other PPs mentioned, Fallsgrove has both MPDU and Low Income housing voucher units: http://www.rockvillehe.org/. Some of the FARMS numbers at RP likely come from Fallsgrove, too (despite how people may view Fallsgrove). Park Potomac also has MPDUs.

Well, someone provided data earlier that FallsGrove doesn't have that many FARMs. I don't have numbers with me.

Anyway, it should be possible to draw new polygons rather than taking older drawn polygons and trying to fit them. We can't seriously agree that only way to fill capacity is to have one school at 10% and other at 53%. Even if RP is left alone, simply swapping B5 and B6 will balance FARMs between Beall and RP. I know few families around RP2. Entire area of RP2 is not really walk-able to RM#5. I tried it myself one day. In cold and snowy day, it's simply not happening. That's why MCPS has walk zone in each school and walk zone remains in that school. Every other zone should be up for debate to move if needed.