2016 AAP admissions Thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

You admit, don't you, that had your child been admitted, your desire for transparency would be nonexistent. Do you seriously believe your last sentence? How does the committee know the education level of the parents? How does the committee know the financial status of the applicants' families? Why would the committee allows anyone to be admitted based on zero submissions from the parents, and just based in being in the pool? Look, I get being frustrated and disappointed, but don't turn this into a sour grapes situation.

My kids did get in. I have friends who feel comfortable telling me their kids' scores and I have been surprised that kids have been admitted with those scores. The committee doesn't know the answers to the questions you asked, but the expansion of AAP to a large number of smart but not gifted kids is due to vocal, well educated parents who push to get their kids in the program, and FCPS has gone along with it. No sour grapes, just baffled by who is or isn't admitted, and I think when a legal requirement is involved, transparency isn't a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible to part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

RE-posting for correction.

PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible for part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is not denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

RE-posting for correction.

PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible for part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is not denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

Save the assumptions. I wrote this and I'm not thinking of suing. I'm simply stating the facts. You're welcome to google and confirm the legal issues around this topic, which crops up around the country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

RE-posting for correction.

PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible for part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is not denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

Save the assumptions. I wrote this and I'm not thinking of suing. I'm simply stating the facts. You're welcome to google and confirm the legal issues around this topic, which crops up around the country.

NP here: Equal access = everyone gets level 4 services. WTH are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

RE-posting for correction.

PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible for part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is not denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

Save the assumptions. I wrote this and I'm not thinking of suing. I'm simply stating the facts. You're welcome to google and confirm the legal issues around this topic, which crops up around the country.

Sooo...your child doesn't get in, and the first thing you do is google the legal issues. Very telling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

RE-posting for correction.

PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible for part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is not denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

Save the assumptions. I wrote this and I'm not thinking of suing. I'm simply stating the facts. You're welcome to google and confirm the legal issues around this topic, which crops up around the country.

Sooo...your child doesn't get in, and the first thing you do is google the legal issues. Very telling.[/

Read the thread genius- the person presenting the legal stuff has kids in AAP. Thanks for the info by the way. And way for whoever to # - stop watching do mucho fallon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

You admit, don't you, that had your child been admitted, your desire for transparency would be nonexistent. Do you seriously believe your last sentence? How does the committee know the education level of the parents? How does the committee know the financial status of the applicants' families? Why would the committee allows anyone to be admitted based on zero submissions from the parents, and just based in being in the pool? Look, I get being frustrated and disappointed, but don't turn this into a sour grapes situation.

My kids did get in. I have friends who feel comfortable telling me their kids' scores and I have been surprised that kids have been admitted with those scores. The committee doesn't know the answers to the questions you asked, but the expansion of AAP to a large number of smart but not gifted kids is due to vocal, well educated parents who push to get their kids in the program, and FCPS has gone along with it. No sour grapes, just baffled by who is or isn't admitted, and I think when a legal requirement is involved, transparency isn't a bad thing.

Agree

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Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

RE-posting for correction.

PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible for part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is not denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

Save the assumptions. I wrote this and I'm not thinking of suing. I'm simply stating the facts. You're welcome to google and confirm the legal issues around this topic, which crops up around the country.

Sooo...your child doesn't get in, and the first thing you do is google the legal issues. Very telling.

I'm the person who posted the legal info, and my child is in AAP. And I didn't have to google the info; I work in education.

See what happens when you think you know it all? You're wrong on all counts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

RE-posting for correction.

PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible for part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is not denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

Save the assumptions. I wrote this and I'm not thinking of suing. I'm simply stating the facts. You're welcome to google and confirm the legal issues around this topic, which crops up around the country.

Sooo...your child doesn't get in, and the first thing you do is google the legal issues. Very telling.

I'm the person who posted the legal info, and my child is in AAP. And I didn't have to google the info; I work in education.

See what happens when you think you know it all? You're wrong on all counts.

Thanks for your point of view. Do you see any steps towards this transparency in the future or jus more of the same? And are their direct correlations between AAP to honors to college etc? I'm sure there's a ton of anecdotal evidence, but as far as the actual data behind AAP and its results vs intentions?

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High cogat and high gbrs are important for aap

I am the one with the child with the 111 nnat and non quant cogat 111 but still got in. She does not have the "lego gene" (high nnat) but she is a deep thinker. She must have gotten in on the 127 verbal cogat and I am guessing a high gbrs. I did a minimal application, knowing she would do well in gen ed or aap.

AAP is about lots of reading and writing.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't sue because you got your feelings hurt because a committeedid not view your kid to be as smart as you think they are.

How silly is that?

The pp with the WISC didn't post the part about suing, I did. I think you sue when the state requires gifted education and the process by which this is done isn't transparent, and also doesn't seem to be accomplishing the intended goal. AAP is intended to meet the state's requirement for gifted education, but it appears, based on scores posted on this thread and based on what friends have told me about their kids' scores, that many smart kids with scores in the 120s are getting in while kids in the gifted range above 130 aren't, in many cases. That seems contrary to the purpose of the VA requirements. It's not about hurt feelings, it's about holding FCPS to it's legal obligation to gifted kids. If FCPS wants to have a program for bright kids, great, but is has a legal requirement to provide services to gifted kids and I'm not sue FCPS isn't losing sight of that in its quest to get highly educated parents (and their money) to live and stay in Fairfax County.

Oh good grief. You are seriously basing your opinions on the score on this board plus anecdotal evidence? Are you kidding me? Will you throw a hissy fit when your kid doesn't get into their college of choice because you only know their SAT scores and essays of your own kid? You are ridiculous.

No, because colleges have no legal obligation that they are required to fulfill in their admissions process. That's different than FCPS, which has a state mandate to provide services to gifted kids.

So you are going to sue based on a single test score, when Level IV Center eligibility is NOT determined by a single test score? #logicleap

FCPS has opened itself up to the lawsuit risk by asserting the district can tell who is "gifted" via a subjective determination. Other school districts use strict score cut offs or lottery systems for those who meet certain criteria, for the simple purpose of avoiding litigation. FCPS is uniquely vulnerable because they offer AAP admission to all who qualify, and are not capacity constrained.

Public schools have the legal obligation to provide EQUAL ACCESS. That is the different between public schools and college admissions.

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PP: I'm sure you think that you're the first one to ever think about suing the county because your child was denied level 4 services. But, you do realize that there are other levels of AAP, don't you? Was your child in pool? Then, s/he will be likely eligible for part-time services (level 3) at your school. FCPS is not denying you access. Oh, and there IS an appeal process. Did I mention that in middle school, there is also "honors" that is open to ALL students?

Save the assumptions. I wrote this and I'm not thinking of suing. I'm simply stating the facts. You're welcome to google and confirm the legal issues around this topic, which crops up around the country.

Sooo...your child doesn't get in, and the first thing you do is google the legal issues. Very telling.

I'm the person who posted the legal info, and my child is in AAP. And I didn't have to google the info; I work in education.

See what happens when you think you know it all? You're wrong on all counts.

Right - because since you work in education, you should be able to make definitive conclusions about other peoples' kids if they are gifted or not. You have no clue - you don't know what the file even looks like. Who is the know it all again?