women who don't work or raise kids

[Anonymous]

Listen, pp, simply allowing an option to exist doesn't itself reinforce any male perceptions...We should all work at rooting out sexism which enables such misguided notions as you describe, but I believe your conflation of the two subjects is inaccurate. Not to mention that I am making the argument that more opportunities should be made available to women. You are off-base arguing to me that there is nothing wrong with a dual WOHP household. I am part of one. [Turns back to laptop...]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen, pp, simply allowing an option to exist doesn't itself reinforce any male perceptions...We should all work at rooting out sexism which enables such misguided notions as you describe, but I believe your conflation of the two subjects is inaccurate. Not to mention that I am making the argument that more opportunities should be made available to women. You are off-base arguing to me that there is nothing wrong with a dual WOHP household. I am part of one. [Turns back to laptop...]

Oops, this was for my back and forth with 14:58.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I accept that women should have the rights and ability to be SAHW. I support it 100% and will fight anyone who says they shouldn't. It is our choice as women to work, be SAHM or SAHW.

However, inside, I think SAHW (not SAHM) are substandard, vapid and a basic waste of space. You are nothing but a trophy for your husbands.

But, I will continue to verbally support your choice to do so.

I'm not a SAHW, but I know a few. Do you think they're a "vapid waste of space" just because they don't make money? The women I know that choose this lifestyle aren't "trophy wives". One has her own family money, worked through her 20's, and now sits on the board of a major charity that keeps her busy. Another also worked through her 20's and early 30's, married a man with substantial family money at 36, and now does a ton of charity work while also caring for her elderly mother.

I don't know any of these women other PP's have referred to that have never worked a day in their lives and sit around doing nothing all day.

So, I'm sure there are these mindless "trophy wives" out there, but I'd be careful to judge people so quickly. I hope that I raise my children to respect people of all kinds, and to never think they're superior.

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Anonymous wrote:What's "strong" about choosing voluntarily to do something our female ancestors HAD to do?

In regards to the pp 14:36 post, strength is doing something that many people think you shouldn't do. Just because all my friends are climbing up the corporate ladder and bringing home a big pay check does not mean that I have to do the same thing. For me, I thought outside the box. I asked myself, what is the best thing for me, and the best thing for my family? If the best thing was to be a housewife, I'll be a housewife. If the best thing was to work FT, I'll work. If it's something else, I'll do that. All families have different needs, so there is no one-size-fits-all answer to this.

To the "hate" poster - if you want to blame me for you not landing a job, go ahead.

Yeah, you thought outside the box alright. Yup.

Now, what did your friends say when you told them you were quitting your job because you were married now, a la Charlotte/SATC? I'm genuinely curious. Did you proudly announce your choice to be this kind of pioneer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I accept that women should have the rights and ability to be SAHW. I support it 100% and will fight anyone who says they shouldn't. It is our choice as women to work, be SAHM or SAHW.

However, inside, I think SAHW (not SAHM) are substandard, vapid and a basic waste of space. You are nothing but a trophy for your husbands.

But, I will continue to verbally support your choice to do so.

I'm not a SAHW, but I know a few. Do you think they're a "vapid waste of space" just because they don't make money? The women I know that choose this lifestyle aren't "trophy wives". One has her own family money, worked through her 20's, and now sits on the board of a major charity that keeps her busy. Another also worked through her 20's and early 30's, married a man with substantial family money at 36, and now does a ton of charity work while also caring for her elderly mother.

I don't know any of these women other PP's have referred to that have never worked a day in their lives and sit around doing nothing all day.

So, I'm sure there are these mindless "trophy wives" out there, but I'd be careful to judge people so quickly. I hope that I raise my children to respect people of all kinds, and to never think they're superior.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are we still talking about SAHW's or are the latest threads also referring to women who stay home with their children?[/quote0]

No, we're just talking about the women who choose to stay home because they're wives. Not moms. Moms are not living a life of leisure and have a role that I think is in many ways as tough or tougher than moms who work. And I personally am not talking about those who stay home for other reasons --to be caregivers, to take time to look for other jobs/career paths, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dear God, PP, please start taking your meds.

Meds or not, she makes perfect sense. Albeit hate is a strong word, so maybe she should substitute it for disgust.

[Anonymous]

I am a SAHM. I had my first child (at Sibley). My brain fell out my vagina. I got pregnant with my second child, not sure how. After that child, I lost more brain. What was that degree I got? Where was it from?
Can anyone help me?

[Anonymous]

O.P I went to law school with this woman who always said she couldn't wait to graduate, seduce some rich lawyer,get married and stay home.
We have been out of law school for 6 years now and that's exactly what her life is.She is a show off stay at home woman,no kids and enjoying life.I still wonder why she bothered going through law school.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear God, PP, please start taking your meds.

Meds or not, she makes perfect sense. Albeit hate is a strong word, so maybe she should substitute it for disgust.

NP - agree that her sentiments are right but hate is too strong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dear God, PP, please start taking your meds.

Um, yes. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is making me ill.

At first i thought I was jealous, but even if I had the option to stay home and do nothing, I have way too much pride to do that.

I'd like to be a decent role model for my daughter--I want to teach her that her goal shouldn't be to marry "well," but it should be to fulfill her potential rather than just take the easy/lazy way out. Seriously, ladies, you stay home without kids to raise? Your husbands are going to get tired of that real fast. I know I'd kick my man to the curb if he decided to do that (and we didn't have 2.5 kids, which we do). Why do you as women get that luxury, but your husbands don't?

You have half a kid?

Yes.

Someone who has never been pregnant - wouldn't get that.

Umm, someone who's never had a brain wouldn't get that.

Am I missing my brain? Someone please explain to me this concept of telling people you have half a kid.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like some of the wives posting spend much of their own lives watching reality tv, know they themselves are a waste of space, and maybe this post hit home. Just because you are a waste of space does not mean your neighbor is. Mind your own.

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I'm a SAH wife, and I never ask my husband for money. We have always had joint bank accounts and both will discuss if either of us wants to make a large purchase. This is no difference with that between the times I'm working and the times I'm not. I don't look at it as his money because having a SAHW allows him to be a better worker. He doesn't worry about dry-cleaning, laundry, dinner, housecleaning. All he has to do is go to work. He never has to leave early to pick up his car at the shop. He used to get phone calls from his mom during work, but now she can call me if she needs something. We live on less money, but we are very happy with this arrangement. Now, Saturdays involve just spending time together, not running errands when the stores are the most crowded. I don't worry about what will happen if he runs off. I supported myself before, and I would be able to again. However, this is not likely to happen because we have built our marriage in a way that we are both dependent on each other. It's probably not for everyone, but I love taking care of my husband, and he loves taking care of me.

Of course, there are plenty of people online and in real life judging me for this. Do I care? Nope.

He's not bored with you?

If anything coming home and talking/complaining about work makes me boring to my husband.

Not the pp but how does this question even make sense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:O.P I went to law school with this woman who always said she couldn't wait to graduate, seduce some rich lawyer,get married and stay home.
We have been out of law school for 6 years now and that's exactly what her life is.She is a show off stay at home woman,no kids and enjoying life.I still wonder why she bothered going through law school.

Duh, to maximize her exposure to rich lawyers! I ain't mad at her!