Because you're lying and trying to deflect. Almost everyone, except for our dear leader, has condemned Russia's attacks on civilians in Ukraine. |
So you're wishing for us to have our children bombed. |
When did the pro-Palestine people do this? When did the pro-Iran posters here do that? And I don't recall threads going on for 10 days straight over every Ukrainian school like the drumbeat here over Minab. |
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yup looks like we the Americans killed a school of little girls.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-investigation-points-likely-us-responsibility-iran-school-strike-sources-say-2026-03-06/ Exclusive: US investigation points to likely US responsibility in Iran school strike, sources say By Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali[/quote] No it was the Iranians. Trump said the Iranians inaccurate weapons double tapped the school. [/quote] Do you have a more legitimate source than Reuters for this? Trump lies daily.[/quote] The Iranians play chess we play GTA.[/quote] That may be your opinion, but Reuters is quoting Pentagon sources who say that the US is responsible for bombing these little girls to death.[/quote] Funny that you didn't post your source. This is what they're actually saying: "U.S. military investigators believe it is likely that U.S. forces were responsible for an apparent strike on an Iranian girls' school that killed scores of children on Saturday but [b]have not yet reached a final conclusion or completed their investigation, two U.S. officials told Reuters.[/b] The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military matters, [b]did not rule out the possibility that new evidence could emerge that absolves the U.S. of responsibility and point to another responsible party in the incident.[/b] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-investigation-points-likely-us-responsibility-iran-school-strike-sources-say-2026-03-06/ Additionally, if it turns out the U.S. was responsible (and the jury's still out on that, as you can see), that doesn't mean it was intentional. The school is right next to the naval base, which *was* the target. [/quote] Who said the US intentionally killed the little girls? I am not happy with what my country is doing in Iran, but I don't think we've descended to the level of sociopaths. I do however think there's an increased level of incomptence at the Pentagon such that they would mistake a school for a naval base and kill so many children.[/quote] It doesn't matter whether it was intentional or not. What matters is that there will be no accountability for it, and that makes the question of intent irrelevant. [/quote] What accountability is Iran offering up for the murder of tens of thousands of its own people? They just appointed a senior leadership figure to the group that did all that killing to be their Supreme Leader. And here you are, completely whitewashing what happened, refusing to acknowledge it and are only demanding accountability from the US. It's dishonest of you and you know it. If the US needs to take accountability (and I'd be more than happy to see Hegseth impeached and removed) then so too does the Supreme Leader on down. Can you say the same about Mojtaba Khameini and the IRGC and Basij leadership? And can you not deflect with dishonest BS about "that's what they want you to believe?" [/quote] So what I'm reading you say is that it is okay to kill elementary school girl students if they happen to live in a regime governed by a Supreme Leader. If they were daughters of the regime that had accountability, then you would have objected to their death with full vigor. But in the absence of that, you will not, because the fact that these girl children are daughters of a regime run by Mojtaba Khameini makes them an acceptable, unregrettable target. That is very good to know, to have this clarity of thought. [/quote] "Clarity of thought" - that's ludicrous, coming from you. You’re being willfully dishonest, are grossly misrepresenting what everyone else is saying and are NOT AT ALL arguing in good faith. No one here said it was "okay" to kill kids, and you know that. NOBODY said that. That's a straight up lie on your part. What kind of "clear thought" allows outright lies? What was actually said was that Iran’s leadership has spent years murdering its own people with total impunity, and that any conversation about accountability has to include their actions too. You’ve twisted that into a claim that children are legitimate targets, which is something nobody here ever said, never implied, and certainly not something I would ever defend. So you need to apologize for that - which is ironic considering you are going around demanding apologies from everyone else. You can apologize for your lies and bad faith distortions. Your argument only works if you erase the actual words and replace them with a cartoon villain version of what you wish we’d said. That’s not debate. That’s fabrication. Here’s the reality you’re dodging: Iran’s regime has killed tens of thousands of its own citizens. The Basij and IRGC have beaten, shot, tortured, and disappeared protesters, including minors. The new Supreme Leader was chosen from the same apparatus that ordered and carried out those killings. Pointing out that history is not "whitewashing" anything it’s acknowledging the FULL moral landscape at play. You’re the one selectively applying outrage by pretending only one side has transgressions and moral obligations. If you want to argue the strike was wrong, fine. That’s a legitimate moral position and guess what - the rest of us agree that striking a school is wrong. That's not even the point here. Your continual dishonest accusing others of endorsing the killing of children is a dishonest smear designed to shut down discussion instead of engaging with what was actually said. You don’t get to win an argument by inventing a position for the rest of us and then attacking your own strawman. If you want to continue this conversation, start by responding to the arguments actually being made by posters, not your own dishonest fabrications. But if you want to refuse to acknowledge your dishonest tactics and to stick with your fabrications then you need to absolutely own the fact that you are a dishonest troll who does not deserve any honest engagement.[/quote] I love how you think you’re entitled to impose rules regarding when it’s acceptable to pursue accountability. Who TF are you? [b]And where have I seen such entitlement before?[/b][/quote] In the mirror? The PP is absolutely right. Own your constant dishonesty, hyperbole, exaggeration and flat-out lies. No need to engage with trolls.[/quote] You’re a moron. The diseased scourge of Zionism, which has inflicted incalculable damage on American interests for many decades now, is finally crippled and gradually dying. Thank god.[/quote] Here we go again, accusing everyone of being "Zionists" and "diseased" and wishing death on posters... while refusing to engage honestly, falsely accusing others of saying "it's OK to kill kids" and refusing to actually engage on legitimate and substantive points other posters are making. Truly an unhinged troll. I hate Trump but you're pretty damn awful yourself. Almost makes me want to side with Trump. Almost. But at this point there's nothing that would want to make me side with the unhinged troll here. [/quote] Where’s the wishing death on posters part in the previous post?[/quote] Oh perhaps the bit about celebrating America crippled and dying, etc.[/quote] Re-read it. I’ll wait. Zionism crippling and dying (which is what was posted) isn’t the same as America crippling and dying, despite your persistent, unwelcome efforts to link the former to the latter. Moreover, celebrating the demise of an ideology (Zionism) is NOT wishing death on posters, you lying sack of trash. But the fact that you have intentionally distorted what was posted and attempted to silence others just about says it all regarding your agenda …[/quote] That's mighty rich coming from the lying sack of shit who kept distorting anything anyone else said into "it's OK to kill kids." Along with falsely accusing anyone who questions or disagrees with them of automatically being "Zionist" - the very thing you wish death on. So yes, you are wishing death on posters.[/quote] Yeah, we’re never going to agree that celebrating the demise of an ideology is “wishing death on posters”. You’ve grossly overstepped on that one. Or did you also think we (as Americans) wished death on everyone behind the Iron Curtain when we celebrated the demise of Communism? Of course not. And you’re also confusing me with other posters here, too. I didn’t post anything about anyone else’s views making the case that it’s “OK to kill kids”. You don’t deserve further engagement, but I’ll make an exception just this once. I DO think posters in this discussion believe our / America’s bad acts are somehow magically less “bad” than identical bad acts committed by our adversaries, though. This topic perfectly illustrates that view: the posters here lathered up over attacking Iran seem to clearly think that Iran’s involvement in the attack 43 years ago that killed 241 of our service members (who, no matter what we think about it, were legitimate target based on international humanitarian law) was far worse than what now appears to be our killing of 180 non-combatant children and teachers. That’s sad. I think it’s pathetic. I think it reflects horribly on the morality of this nation. I don’t embrace the view that American lives have greater value than the lives of non-Americans. I think that view is diseased and needs to change. And yeah, I think that diseased view is commonly held by Zionists. And yeah, I think their ideology centered on that view deserves to end up in the dustbin of history. The world isn’t a better place for a group of individuals believing in their own superiority over all others based not on their actions, but based on the fairytale they cling to from thousands of years ago that they think ordains them superior. And I’ll stand by that view, and I make no apologies for it. |
| I’m shocked that the nation that was founded on genocide, built on slavery and used nuclear weapons on people in Hiroshima would ever bomb civilians or cause a chemical disaster against civilians. Truly shocked. |
The problem with your argument isn’t mere disagreement, it’s the way you’re trying to move goalposts and rewrite what you said after the fact. You didn’t merely "celebrate the demise of an ideology." You explicitly framed your position in terms of wanting America to be “crippled” and to “die,” and now you’re pretending that was some abstract philosophical critique rather than a wish for national collapse. That’s not a misinterpretation; that’s the plain meaning of your own words and I will not let you weasel out of it. And no, invoking the fall of the Iron Curtain doesn’t rescue the comparison. Americans celebrated the end of a repressive system, not the destruction of an entire people or country. You’re trying to smuggle your rhetoric into that analogy to sanitize it, and it doesn’t hold. Your historical framing is just as selective. Reducing four decades of brutal and violent Iranian state behavior to “one event 43 years ago” is not analysis; it’s straight up erasure. Iran’s proxies and security services have repeatedly targeted civilians, diplomats, aid workers, and infrastructure across the region. Those attacks weren’t hypothetical, and the victims weren’t abstractions. Pretending that only one incident matters while dismissing the long and extensive, proven and documented record of non‑combatant deaths caused by Iranian‑backed groups is not moral clarity; it’s moral tunnel vision. And the irony is that while you accuse others of believing American lives matter more, you’re the one minimizing the deaths of civilians when those civilians were killed by a government you've steadfastly proven yourself so determined to defend. Finally, your attempt to universalize your own contempt by claiming to speak for "Americans" while pronouncing them "diseased" is as incoherent as it is hostile. You’ve decided and declared by magic wand that anyone who challenges your narrative must be a "Zionist," as though that label alone explains every disagreement or absolves you from engaging with the substance. That's no argument at all - it's a weak rhetorical crutch. You’re not critiquing policy; you’re pathologizing entire groups of people and then congratulating yourself for being unapologetic about it. If you want to have a serious conversation about morality, accountability, or foreign policy, then start by owning your own words and start by owning the actions of your side, instead of trying to retroactively launder and whitewash them. As for whether you're the same poster as the one who lied claiming we said "It's OK to kill kids" - that may or may not be the case; your patterns and rhetorical style are 100% identical - whether you're the same poster or not, your style and approach is no better. |
Shocking? Well then you'll be shocked by Iran, a nation that has an extensive 6,000 year history of slavery, genocide, mass brutality and attacks on civilians. A history that for much of its existence was structural, going back to Persepolis and the kurtaš labor force that consisted of enslaved war captives and their descendants, deployed across royal estates and construction projects. Later dynasties continued the pattern through domestic servitude, military slavery, and the regional slave trades that persisted in Iran right up until their formal abolition in 1929 - much more recent than the US. And as an expansionist empire, Persia enforced its rule through forced relocations, suppression of revolts, and harsh punitive campaigns - genocide. The historical record clearly documents its history of slavery and forced labor, mass population transfers, collective punishments, and violent subjugation of conquered peoples. |
So Israel is basically the modern day version of this. Wow |
I can't tell you what the phantoms in your head say or explain your inability to remember events from just a few years ago. There has been widespread coverage and condemnation of Russia's attacks on schools, hospitals, and apartment buildings. |
| How does the US make some attempt to make amends for this horrific mistake of killing all these school children? |
They don't. Because in order to do that you have to first acknowledge wrongdoing, something that is not exactly Trump and Hegseth's specialty. |
General condemnation and by other accounts, yes. But not specific condemnation by the same accounts that are currently the loudest to condemn the Minab attack. |
How does Russia make amends for all of the unwarranted brutality it's inflicted on Ukraine since 2014? How does Iran make amends for the violence and chaos it's driven throughout the middle east since 1979? How does Israel make amends? Seems like this is the new global normal and if you're looking to Trump to be a moral standard bearer to raise the standard, you clearly haven't been paying attention. |
You've created your own strawman. Get off of twitter, it's warping your mind. |