Sounds like someone must have been rejected and can’t move on. W&M is a highly respected university that attracts applicants from across the US and from abroad. |
For the zillionth time: W&M is not a SLAC. |
Are you confusing W&L with Willam and Mary? I don’t think many people associate W&M with a country club vibe… |
Sort of feels like one though. |
It honestly doesn't. |
| The LAC comments may represent the “feel” of the school, and perhaps historical majors, but we just toured last week (with a junior) and they said 60% of undergrads are STEM majors. |
Probably. W&M is a nerd school (in the best possible way) and a great place for really smart kids to get to be around other really smart kids that are focused and driven. UVA is more country club than W&M, but W&L has them both beat on that vibe by a long shot. A lot of people also don't go to college for status and could not give a shit about impressing people with where they spend four years of their life. Outside legal, high-end consulting, and finance, most people do just fine without a T20 degree or having to tell people where they went to college within five minute of meeting them. DC and DCUM just have a much larger pool of people who want others to be impressed by their name brand university than most - probably same for NYC and places where lawyers, consultants, and finance bros gather. |
Science and mathematics are Liberal Arts fields. |
And yet most LACs are majority humanities |
That is not true. Amherst degrees for instance are 38% science and math, which is a higher percentage than humanities or social sciences. |
Soooo 38 vs 60? |
Amherst STEM percentage is higher than UVA STEM percentage even though Amherst does not have engineering. |
Humanities includes fields like English, languages, arts, philosophy. It does not include social sciences like economics. |
| DP: They're now R1 and and have 7k undergrads and apparently a *massive* stem presence (they wouldn't be highlighting this if "liberal arts vibe" screamed "we have good stem departments here" to the general public which yeah people still like to claim that W&M is not the place to go if you're planning to study stem). I just don't see that being "LAC-like". |
If you are trying to reduce it to STEM vs. not STEM, most universities do not have majority STEM degrees. Harvard is about 50% STEM. Most on DCUM seem to think Harvard students study nothing but French Lit and Gender Studies. Schools like MIT, Caltech, and Georgia Tech are majority STEM. |