Schools closed for students Monday Feb 2

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Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

I don't understand this attitude. You're a salaried employee, you don't "not get paid" for any particular day. Other professions don't get to put work off because there's a snow day.

Do you n the e a reading lesson? Salaried teachers have a contract that clearly states the number of days they work, how many hours per day, etc. I’m sorry your $300k salary job doesn’t have a union. We low class teachers need unions to protect us from the likes of you

But you didn't have to work last week. Maybe if you put off grading sure. But that's not MCPS's fault.

Put off grading?

Try this instead: we don’t get dedicated hours for grading. Therefore we grade at 10pm on Thursday, 8am on Saturday, 2pm on Sunday. This is why I work over 60 hours a week. Grading.

So it’s not that I’m putting it off. It’s that work doesn’t give me time to do it.

This literally has nothing to do with the makeup days. You didn't have to provide instruction last week, so there will be makeup days to makeup for that. You'll be paid the salary you agreed to.

I wish all I had to worry about is instruction.

Unfortunately, my job has a few pesky requirements that I’m not given time at work to complete. You know, silly little things like grading papers and planning instruction. All of that happens at home.

I know many people think the magic just materializes in the classroom. In truth, it occurs because of the work I do every single night, every single weekend, and (yes) every single snow day.

So you’re welcome. My instruction is so amazing because of the work I do at home. And you won’t get away with suggesting I’m lazy.

Regarding pay: no, I’m not paid enough. But you can make up for it by being a reasonable, respectful person. That’s all I ask.

All I'm hearing is that you knew the snowstorm was coming, didn't keep up with your grading and are now pretending you were required to work last week, when you weren't. When I have to work over the weekend because I didn't get enough work during the week, I don't claim I need to get paid extra.

But this is what the teachers unions do to get more things. Claim something is just horribly HORRIBLY unfair even though what they are saying makes no sense. And then anyone who is like what? Gets told we hate teachers. Please. I know actual teachers and they didn't work at all last week. I get the makeup days are annoying and nobody wants them but frankly school systems have to have SOME incentive to actually have a school year because if you give the unions an inch they will take a mile.

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I teach an AP class and just collected over a 100 essays before the storm hit, each requiring substantial feedback.

But you’re right. Let’s go with your thoughts that I’m a lazy, procrastinating teacher. You need something to fuel your rage, I guess.

Feeling a bit embarrassed? Yes, I thought so.

That makes no sense. What would you have done if the storm hadn’t hit? Somehow I don’t think you would have spent 40 hours providing feedback on essays you collected on a Friday with grades due the following Monday.

all my kids’ teachers don’t assign work/tests that take substantial grading time right before the marking period ends since there would be no time to grade them.

I would have still graded them, of course.

And as an AP teacher, I grade every single weekend. Sure, the storm gave me a “break” and I got to stretch the essays over a few days instead of working ALL hours.

And instead of the rudeness, how about just pausing for a second and realizing that we are on the same side. Is that too hard? Or are you just out to insult?

You also got a break last year when MCPS made up 3 snow days as half days in June, when your AP exams are taken in May.

But we don’t hear you saying that those days in June when you have nothing to do relative to other teachers compensate for those tougher weeks earlier in the year.

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The good news for parents is, there are now 5 more days in the school year where they would have had to get child care because their kids were out of school, and now they won’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers have someone made this a thread about what victims they are. Amazing

No, what happened is that people who hate teachers made wild blanket accusations and then some teachers shared what their lives are really like.

One day soon, no human being will be willing to do the job of teaching. It’ll all be computers/AI.

It’s this. And they don’t realize that the teachers they are gleefully tearing apart are the very people they want teaching their children. We’re the ones providing timely feedback, writing recommendations, creating engaging lessons, etc.

Yes we do want you teaching. But this year it looks like McPS will seek a waiver after reaching 177 days of instruction rather than 180, and add on some half days in end June where you aren’t expected to teach.

So you are getting an extra paid vacation in winter and our kids are shortchanged.

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Teachers, stop trying to explain yourselves to hostile parents looking for a punching bag.

Parents, go read to your kids, play a board game with them, or teach them something useful.

Personally, I am turning off my ipad and reading a book. When these online debates devolve into ad hominem attacks, they’re pointless.

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Anonymous wrote:The good news for parents is, there are now 5 more days in the school year where they would have had to get child care because their kids were out of school, and now they won’t.

No, its bad news as some of us paid for expensive camps, jobs expect them to work, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The good news for parents is, there are now 5 more days in the school year where they would have had to get child care because their kids were out of school, and now they won’t.

We already purchased camps and made plans for the whole summer, as did many people that we know.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers have someone made this a thread about what victims they are. Amazing

No, what happened is that people who hate teachers made wild blanket accusations and then some teachers shared what their lives are really like.

One day soon, no human being will be willing to do the job of teaching. It’ll all be computers/AI.

It’s this. And they don’t realize that the teachers they are gleefully tearing apart are the very people they want teaching their children. We’re the ones providing timely feedback, writing recommendations, creating engaging lessons, etc.

Yes we do want you teaching. But this year it looks like McPS will seek a waiver after reaching 177 days of instruction rather than 180, and add on some half days in end June where you aren’t expected to teach.

So you are getting an extra paid vacation in winter and our kids are shortchanged.

Teachers didn't choose to be off, so this is silly to say they are getting paid vacation. Some teachers ARE working.

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Anonymous wrote:This screams union all over it.

They missed their records day 1/26 so are getting it 2/2. Kids be damned.

Yup. That’s the way this makes sense. They need the grading day back despite being closed all of last week.

You try finalizing grades for 150 kids on the same day you are meeting new kids and planning for a new quarter.

And if you respond with, “it should have been done last week” when we weren’t getting paid… you are part of the problem why educators leave. The disrespect is unfathomable.

I don't understand this attitude. You're a salaried employee, you don't "not get paid" for any particular day. Other professions don't get to put work off because there's a snow day.

Do you n the e a reading lesson? Salaried teachers have a contract that clearly states the number of days they work, how many hours per day, etc. I’m sorry your $300k salary job doesn’t have a union. We low class teachers need unions to protect us from the likes of you

But you didn't have to work last week. Maybe if you put off grading sure. But that's not MCPS's fault.

Put off grading?

Try this instead: we don’t get dedicated hours for grading. Therefore we grade at 10pm on Thursday, 8am on Saturday, 2pm on Sunday. This is why I work over 60 hours a week. Grading.

So it’s not that I’m putting it off. It’s that work doesn’t give me time to do it.

This literally has nothing to do with the makeup days. You didn't have to provide instruction last week, so there will be makeup days to makeup for that. You'll be paid the salary you agreed to.

I wish all I had to worry about is instruction.

Unfortunately, my job has a few pesky requirements that I’m not given time at work to complete. You know, silly little things like grading papers and planning instruction. All of that happens at home.

I know many people think the magic just materializes in the classroom. In truth, it occurs because of the work I do every single night, every single weekend, and (yes) every single snow day.

So you’re welcome. My instruction is so amazing because of the work I do at home. And you won’t get away with suggesting I’m lazy.

Regarding pay: no, I’m not paid enough. But you can make up for it by being a reasonable, respectful person. That’s all I ask.

All I'm hearing is that you knew the snowstorm was coming, didn't keep up with your grading and are now pretending you were required to work last week, when you weren't. When I have to work over the weekend because I didn't get enough work during the week, I don't claim I need to get paid extra.

But this is what the teachers unions do to get more things. Claim something is just horribly HORRIBLY unfair even though what they are saying makes no sense. And then anyone who is like what? Gets told we hate teachers. Please. I know actual teachers and they didn't work at all last week. I get the makeup days are annoying and nobody wants them but frankly school systems have to have SOME incentive to actually have a school year because if you give the unions an inch they will take a mile.

Or:

I teach an AP class and just collected over a 100 essays before the storm hit, each requiring substantial feedback.

But you’re right. Let’s go with your thoughts that I’m a lazy, procrastinating teacher. You need something to fuel your rage, I guess.

Feeling a bit embarrassed? Yes, I thought so.

I am feeling embarrassed for you. Grades were supposed to be due last Monday. You got a bunch of extra time to finish, and you took it. You were not required to work on the snow days, but that is the thing about being a salaried worker - you have to get your work done.

I never called you lazy btw, but it sounds like that's how you think of yourself. You are projecting your self hatred onto me.

I not that teacher, but AP units don’t start and stop with the regular marking periods. It is not unusual for students to turn in FREs and DBQs at the very end of one marking period, then get the grades at the start of the next.

I have no idea what any of that means, which I imagine is your intent. But in any case, continuing to insist that the makeup days will be unpaid is preposterous on its face and insulting to everyone who actually had to go to work last week and kept society running.

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I truly believe that the victim complex promoted by the teachers unions has a negative impact on their wellbeing. Union should focus on increasing pay, not these petty and tone-deaf complaints

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers have someone made this a thread about what victims they are. Amazing

No, what happened is that people who hate teachers made wild blanket accusations and then some teachers shared what their lives are really like.

One day soon, no human being will be willing to do the job of teaching. It’ll all be computers/AI.

It’s this. And they don’t realize that the teachers they are gleefully tearing apart are the very people they want teaching their children. We’re the ones providing timely feedback, writing recommendations, creating engaging lessons, etc.

Yes we do want you teaching. But this year it looks like McPS will seek a waiver after reaching 177 days of instruction rather than 180, and add on some half days in end June where you aren’t expected to teach.

So you are getting an extra paid vacation in winter and our kids are shortchanged.

Teachers didn't choose to be off, so this is silly to say they are getting paid vacation. Some teachers ARE working.

And some teachers ARE skiing with their families because they weren’t required to be in a classroom. It’s silly to say last week was a work week for MCPS teachers when every communication said it was “Code Red.”

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People need to stop hating on teachers and demand accountability from (1) County Council and the Executive for their wild incompetence in both this crisis and in generally managing the sprawling bureaucracy that sucks down tax dollars, and, (2) the MCPS Organization itself. It needs to go—it is too big to govern and needs to be broken down into at least three but probably more districts that are completely independent. Better yet, disband altogether and rebuild. Parents’ anger has hopefully reached a tipping point. We need to be protesting and demanding recalls.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers have someone made this a thread about what victims they are. Amazing

No, what happened is that people who hate teachers made wild blanket accusations and then some teachers shared what their lives are really like.

One day soon, no human being will be willing to do the job of teaching. It’ll all be computers/AI.

It’s this. And they don’t realize that the teachers they are gleefully tearing apart are the very people they want teaching their children. We’re the ones providing timely feedback, writing recommendations, creating engaging lessons, etc.

Yes we do want you teaching. But this year it looks like McPS will seek a waiver after reaching 177 days of instruction rather than 180, and add on some half days in end June where you aren’t expected to teach.

So you are getting an extra paid vacation in winter and our kids are shortchanged.

Teachers didn't choose to be off, so this is silly to say they are getting paid vacation. Some teachers ARE working.

And some teachers ARE skiing with their families because they weren’t required to be in a classroom. It’s silly to say last week was a work week for MCPS teachers when every communication said it was “Code Red.”

OK and? If all their grading was done and they planned for the next few weeks, then what else do you want them to do. I cannot imagine that many were skiing as it took a few days to even get out...were you skiing?

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop hating on teachers and demand accountability from (1) County Council and the Executive for their wild incompetence in both this crisis and in generally managing the sprawling bureaucracy that sucks down tax dollars, and, (2) the MCPS Organization itself. It needs to go—it is too big to govern and needs to be broken down into at least three but probably more districts that are completely independent. Better yet, disband altogether and rebuild. Parents’ anger has hopefully reached a tipping point. We need to be protesting and demanding recalls.

The best option is virtual but Taylor, BOE and Central Office all say no as they are selfish and don't care. They all need to be terminated.

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Catholic schools, which follows MCPS weather policy, decided to open tomorrow, allowing for liberal absences. Why can't MCPS do that? The minority of kids who cannot get to school can just make up the work later.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers have someone made this a thread about what victims they are. Amazing

No, what happened is that people who hate teachers made wild blanket accusations and then some teachers shared what their lives are really like.

One day soon, no human being will be willing to do the job of teaching. It’ll all be computers/AI.

It’s this. And they don’t realize that the teachers they are gleefully tearing apart are the very people they want teaching their children. We’re the ones providing timely feedback, writing recommendations, creating engaging lessons, etc.

Yes we do want you teaching. But this year it looks like McPS will seek a waiver after reaching 177 days of instruction rather than 180, and add on some half days in end June where you aren’t expected to teach.

So you are getting an extra paid vacation in winter and our kids are shortchanged.

Teachers didn't choose to be off, so this is silly to say they are getting paid vacation. Some teachers ARE working.

And some teachers ARE skiing with their families because they weren’t required to be in a classroom. It’s silly to say last week was a work week for MCPS teachers when every communication said it was “Code Red.”

OK and? If all their grading was done and they planned for the next few weeks, then what else do you want them to do. I cannot imagine that many were skiing as it took a few days to even get out...were you skiing?

No, I was at the hospital I work at because unlike schools, we don’t have the luxury of closing when the weather is bad.