International travel plans with all these politics going on

[Anonymous]

None of that British interaction sounds right knowing the British and the state of affairs in the UK.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish these people would go back to watching Oprah, Jenny Jones, and Jerry Springer so their anxiety levels go down.

I don’t think they are the same people. I’m not panicking but it’s something to take into consideration. But I do think Americans (not just MAGAs) are underestimating how much this administration is angering the world. And I’ve noticed a shift in the discourse from non-Americans to “oh we feel bad for you” to “stop making excuses and do something.”

Where is this shift of discourse happening?

In the head of the pp.

PP here; keep telling yourself that…you do realize that many people in this area come from different places? Interact with people from different places? Read News from abroad? Americans are so arrogant to think this administration’s escapades will only impact certain people.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Sorry, you’re getting these responses simply because you’re acutely self-conscious about being American. I am also American and in Latin America right now. Met a Danish trio today—according to you this should be the most contentious encounter of all, right? No, no comment on politics. We are all just people on holiday. And no, not a Trump supporter.

Yea keep telling yourself that.

I’m not “acutely self-conscious” about being American right now. I’m acutely embarrassed and ashamed about it and feel an obligation to my country to assure non-Americans that we’re not all nuts. You don’t feel the same way because you’re selfish and when you’re abroad it’s just a vacation.

Whatever. You have no moral high ground here. I hate Trump with every fiber of my being and whenever I receive an Apple News alert, I pray that it is to inform me of his death. However, I am not personally responsible for him. I am personally responsible for treating everyone I meet with kindness and respect. If they would like to discuss politics, I am happy to do so, but I am not going to wear a hair shirt or grovel before others. You may obviously do as you like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish these people would go back to watching Oprah, Jenny Jones, and Jerry Springer so their anxiety levels go down.

I don’t think they are the same people. I’m not panicking but it’s something to take into consideration. But I do think Americans (not just MAGAs) are underestimating how much this administration is angering the world. And I’ve noticed a shift in the discourse from non-Americans to “oh we feel bad for you” to “stop making excuses and do something.”

Where is this shift of discourse happening?

In the head of the pp.

PP here; keep telling yourself that…you do realize that many people in this area come from different places? Interact with people from different places? Read News from abroad? Americans are so arrogant to think this administration’s escapades will only impact certain people.

So what? What the crazy lady says is happening, ain't happening. You do realize that the news is generally not representative of what is really happening. People who actually travel and live outside the US know a lot more about what is going on than some bozo reading the NY Times or watching CNN.

[Anonymous]

We are likely going to cancel our Panama trip due to the FAA advisory today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

I am skeptical of this story. Because people often don’t confuse Australian with British accents. And that you did echoes your own ignorance. But more because people do not live and breathe and die by American politics. Take your hypothetical British couple. Presumably you know who Keir Starmer is? He is also the most unpopular PM in British history, achieving the lowest approval ratings for a PM. His government is abysmally unpopular. Hugely unpopular. Extremely unpopular. Three adjectives and it is probably still an understatement. His government has done things like cancel local elections and mayoral elections because everyone knew Labour would lose. They are planning to eliminate most trial by juries. Then you have deep cultural divisions, economic concers and the mass migration situation. And the Chagos debacle.

The whole point is that people really do not live by American politics. Trump pops up every now and then, causes a fuss, then it's back to their national political issues. That hypothetical British couple would find your outburst both weird and so very American, because Americans are exceedingly insular and seem to think the whole world must have existential anxiety over the latest American political incident, while, of course, utterly ignorant of politics in other countries. It is American arrogance to do what you claimed to do.

I’m not agreeing with PP you are responding to but you seem to think you know more than you do. The majority of Americans cannot differentiate Australian and English accents. That you think differently reflects your ignorance.

You also speak definitively and yet not very knowledgeably. Is Keir Starmer the most unpopular PM in history? Who knows as they only started doing those polls in about 1980. What has the change to trial by jury got to do with anything? You are remarkably naive if you don’t think Britons aren’t paying a lot of attention to Trump and are only focused on their own problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish these people would go back to watching Oprah, Jenny Jones, and Jerry Springer so their anxiety levels go down.

I don’t think they are the same people. I’m not panicking but it’s something to take into consideration. But I do think Americans (not just MAGAs) are underestimating how much this administration is angering the world. And I’ve noticed a shift in the discourse from non-Americans to “oh we feel bad for you” to “stop making excuses and do something.”

Where is this shift of discourse happening?

In the head of the pp.

PP here; keep telling yourself that…you do realize that many people in this area come from different places? Interact with people from different places? Read News from abroad? Americans are so arrogant to think this administration’s escapades will only impact certain people.

So what? What the crazy lady says is happening, ain't happening. You do realize that the news is generally not representative of what is really happening. People who actually travel and live outside the US know a lot more about what is going on than some bozo reading the NY Times or watching CNN.

I’m talking about getting info from people who live abroad or have family abroad. You are slow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish these people would go back to watching Oprah, Jenny Jones, and Jerry Springer so their anxiety levels go down.

I don’t think they are the same people. I’m not panicking but it’s something to take into consideration. But I do think Americans (not just MAGAs) are underestimating how much this administration is angering the world. And I’ve noticed a shift in the discourse from non-Americans to “oh we feel bad for you” to “stop making excuses and do something.”

Where is this shift of discourse happening?

In the head of the pp.

PP here; keep telling yourself that…you do realize that many people in this area come from different places? Interact with people from different places? Read News from abroad? Americans are so arrogant to think this administration’s escapades will only impact certain people.

So what? What the crazy lady says is happening, ain't happening. You do realize that the news is generally not representative of what is really happening. People who actually travel and live outside the US know a lot more about what is going on than some bozo reading the NY Times or watching CNN.

I’m talking about getting info from people who live abroad or have family abroad. You are slow.

Sorry, was referring to the other pp dipshit rambling on about how everyone wants to talk about trump overseas and you have to discuss politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are likely going to cancel our Panama trip due to the FAA advisory today.

My daughter was there two weeks ago. It goes up and down.

[Anonymous]

Go on and plan your trips.

Hope you can come back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are likely going to cancel our Panama trip due to the FAA advisory today.

Link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:None of that British interaction sounds right knowing the British and the state of affairs in the UK.

‘Knowing the British’! I’m amazed by the number of experts on accents, the British and the ‘ state of affairs’ in the UK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

I am skeptical of this story. Because people often don’t confuse Australian with British accents. And that you did echoes your own ignorance. But more because people do not live and breathe and die by American politics. Take your hypothetical British couple. Presumably you know who Keir Starmer is? He is also the most unpopular PM in British history, achieving the lowest approval ratings for a PM. His government is abysmally unpopular. Hugely unpopular. Extremely unpopular. Three adjectives and it is probably still an understatement. His government has done things like cancel local elections and mayoral elections because everyone knew Labour would lose. They are planning to eliminate most trial by juries. Then you have deep cultural divisions, economic concers and the mass migration situation. And the Chagos debacle.

The whole point is that people really do not live by American politics. Trump pops up every now and then, causes a fuss, then it's back to their national political issues. That hypothetical British couple would find your outburst both weird and so very American, because Americans are exceedingly insular and seem to think the whole world must have existential anxiety over the latest American political incident, while, of course, utterly ignorant of politics in other countries. It is American arrogance to do what you claimed to do.

I’m not agreeing with PP you are responding to but you seem to think you know more than you do. The majority of Americans cannot differentiate Australian and English accents. That you think differently reflects your ignorance.

You also speak definitively and yet not very knowledgeably. Is Keir Starmer the most unpopular PM in history? Who knows as they only started doing those polls in about 1980. What has the change to trial by jury got to do with anything? You are remarkably naive if you don’t think Britons aren’t paying a lot of attention to Trump and are only focused on their own problems.

Uh? Are you an apologist bot from Labour? Who is trailing behind both Tories and Reform. You don’t think canceling trial by jury isn't important? It's being widely talked about in papers and media in the UK, FYI.

I don't know who you are other that you're self defensive. It can always be difficult to have a pragmatic discussion on here and while I'll be the first to agree that there is no love lost for Trump in the UK, people also do not live, breathe, or die by Trump when they have their own political problems that matter far more to them. The previous comment about American arrogance in assuming the whole world must know every minutiae of American politics while ignoring everything political outside the US is right on, and this is a particular American left blind spot because the American right just doesn't think about the rest of the world. Most Americans also don't live, breathe or die by politics either and how often do you start a conversation with strangers in the US with how much you hate Trump? Very few do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

I am skeptical of this story. Because people often don’t confuse Australian with British accents. And that you did echoes your own ignorance. But more because people do not live and breathe and die by American politics. Take your hypothetical British couple. Presumably you know who Keir Starmer is? He is also the most unpopular PM in British history, achieving the lowest approval ratings for a PM. His government is abysmally unpopular. Hugely unpopular. Extremely unpopular. Three adjectives and it is probably still an understatement. His government has done things like cancel local elections and mayoral elections because everyone knew Labour would lose. They are planning to eliminate most trial by juries. Then you have deep cultural divisions, economic concers and the mass migration situation. And the Chagos debacle.

The whole point is that people really do not live by American politics. Trump pops up every now and then, causes a fuss, then it's back to their national political issues. That hypothetical British couple would find your outburst both weird and so very American, because Americans are exceedingly insular and seem to think the whole world must have existential anxiety over the latest American political incident, while, of course, utterly ignorant of politics in other countries. It is American arrogance to do what you claimed to do.

I’m not agreeing with PP you are responding to but you seem to think you know more than you do. The majority of Americans cannot differentiate Australian and English accents. That you think differently reflects your ignorance.

You also speak definitively and yet not very knowledgeably. Is Keir Starmer the most unpopular PM in history? Who knows as they only started doing those polls in about 1980. What has the change to trial by jury got to do with anything? You are remarkably naive if you don’t think Britons aren’t paying a lot of attention to Trump and are only focused on their own problems.

Uh? Are you an apologist bot from Labour? Who is trailing behind both Tories and Reform. You don’t think canceling trial by jury isn't important? It's being widely talked about in papers and media in the UK, FYI.

I don't know who you are other that you're self defensive. It can always be difficult to have a pragmatic discussion on here and while I'll be the first to agree that there is no love lost for Trump in the UK, people also do not live, breathe, or die by Trump when they have their own political problems that matter far more to them. The previous comment about American arrogance in assuming the whole world must know every minutiae of American politics while ignoring everything political outside the US is right on, and this is a particular American left blind spot because the American right just doesn't think about the rest of the world. Most Americans also don't live, breathe or die by politics either and how often do you start a conversation with strangers in the US with how much you hate Trump? Very few do.

Since when are you the self appointed ex expert on what the British think or do? The fact you think that Americans can tell the difference between an Australian and British accent shows you think you know more than you do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are likely going to cancel our Panama trip due to the FAA advisory today.

My daughter was there two weeks ago. It goes up and down.

What do you mean, it goes up and down?