International travel plans with all these politics going on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Err…ok. Is everyone you meet really that ignorant and quick to judge? I just find it a bit strange that some of us who are expats / frequent travelers have such a different experience than you. When I meet people from Hungary/Israel/Russia I don’t immediately assume they support their autocratic regimes. Do you?

Well, for starters I’ve met many an Israeli who has been quick to let me know that they don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Sorry, you’re getting these responses simply because you’re acutely self-conscious about being American. I am also American and in Latin America right now. Met a Danish trio today—according to you this should be the most contentious encounter of all, right? No, no comment on politics. We are all just people on holiday. And no, not a Trump supporter.

You clearly missed their facial cues bro.

Not mention nobody said anything about “contention.”

Americans abroad telling themselves that the locals and non-USA tourists don’t about Trump and aren’t looking at you differently are living in La La Land.

[Anonymous]

Dont “care” that is

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Sorry, you’re getting these responses simply because you’re acutely self-conscious about being American. I am also American and in Latin America right now. Met a Danish trio today—according to you this should be the most contentious encounter of all, right? No, no comment on politics. We are all just people on holiday. And no, not a Trump supporter.

Yea keep telling yourself that.

I’m not “acutely self-conscious” about being American right now. I’m acutely embarrassed and ashamed about it and feel an obligation to my country to assure non-Americans that we’re not all nuts.

DP You are free to decide your own obligations. Everyone is free to decide obligations for themselves.

You don’t feel the same way because you’re selfish and when you’re abroad it’s just a vacation.

Not everyone I encounter who comes from controversial governments "assures" me they are not nuts. I don't assume this is because they are "selfish".

You assuming this speaks volumes about you; it says nothing about other people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Sorry, you’re getting these responses simply because you’re acutely self-conscious about being American. I am also American and in Latin America right now. Met a Danish trio today—according to you this should be the most contentious encounter of all, right? No, no comment on politics. We are all just people on holiday. And no, not a Trump supporter.

+1
The unstable pp is just projecting their obsession with Trump onto other people. Healthy people know he is a clown and just get on with their lives, not take it out on other people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Curious, if anyone thinks the dollar will crash. Also, if trump acts on Greenland, will a trip to Eastern Europe (eg, Poland, Croatia) be safe, not from the population, but from a Russia invasion?

Dollar yes is going to crash. That has always been Trump's plan.

And also the plan is for Russia to invade Poland that is going to happen. Unfortunately MAGA got us here, they are too stupid to understand the consequences of electing an idiot.

What are your qualifications for making such histrionic statements?

+1

Apparently the pp is the next George Soros. Amazing to be around such smart people here on DCUM!

The internet trolls are beating Wall Street at their own game

Huh? EUR/USD is 1.17 and it was 1.16 in prior post. They just posted a random headline that gets updated 50x / day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Err…ok. Is everyone you meet really that ignorant and quick to judge? I just find it a bit strange that some of us who are expats / frequent travelers have such a different experience than you. When I meet people from Hungary/Israel/Russia I don’t immediately assume they support their autocratic regimes. Do you?

Well, for starters I’ve met many an Israeli who has been quick to let me know that they don’t.

Thank goodness, I’m sure you were noticeably nervous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Err…ok. Is everyone you meet really that ignorant and quick to judge? I just find it a bit strange that some of us who are expats / frequent travelers have such a different experience than you. When I meet people from Hungary/Israel/Russia I don’t immediately assume they support their autocratic regimes. Do you?

Well, for starters I’ve met many an Israeli who has been quick to let me know that they don’t.

In what context?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Sorry, you’re getting these responses simply because you’re acutely self-conscious about being American. I am also American and in Latin America right now. Met a Danish trio today—according to you this should be the most contentious encounter of all, right? No, no comment on politics. We are all just people on holiday. And no, not a Trump supporter.

Yea keep telling yourself that.

I’m not “acutely self-conscious” about being American right now. I’m acutely embarrassed and ashamed about it and feel an obligation to my country to assure non-Americans that we’re not all nuts.

DP You are free to decide your own obligations. Everyone is free to decide obligations for themselves.

You don’t feel the same way because you’re selfish and when you’re abroad it’s just a vacation.

Not everyone I encounter who comes from controversial governments "assures" me they are not nuts. I don't assume this is because they are "selfish".

You assuming this speaks volumes about you; it says nothing about other people.

What kind of person thinks they need to engage in political messaging abroad? That's a likely path to unpleasantness at best, and to dangerous interactions at worst. You're as likely to be expounding your personal politics to someone who is right-wing as left-wing, or have you not noticed the rise of the right in many countries overseas? But, have at it if you welcome confrontation with strangers, and raising your personal level of risk for no useful purpose other than to make you feel better about your personal politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish these people would go back to watching Oprah, Jenny Jones, and Jerry Springer so their anxiety levels go down.

I don’t think they are the same people. I’m not panicking but it’s something to take into consideration. But I do think Americans (not just MAGAs) are underestimating how much this administration is angering the world. And I’ve noticed a shift in the discourse from non-Americans to “oh we feel bad for you” to “stop making excuses and do something.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish these people would go back to watching Oprah, Jenny Jones, and Jerry Springer so their anxiety levels go down.

I don’t think they are the same people. I’m not panicking but it’s something to take into consideration. But I do think Americans (not just MAGAs) are underestimating how much this administration is angering the world. And I’ve noticed a shift in the discourse from non-Americans to “oh we feel bad for you” to “stop making excuses and do something.”

Where is this shift of discourse happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish these people would go back to watching Oprah, Jenny Jones, and Jerry Springer so their anxiety levels go down.

I don’t think they are the same people. I’m not panicking but it’s something to take into consideration. But I do think Americans (not just MAGAs) are underestimating how much this administration is angering the world. And I’ve noticed a shift in the discourse from non-Americans to “oh we feel bad for you” to “stop making excuses and do something.”

Where is this shift of discourse happening?

In the head of the pp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

Sorry, you’re getting these responses simply because you’re acutely self-conscious about being American. I am also American and in Latin America right now. Met a Danish trio today—according to you this should be the most contentious encounter of all, right? No, no comment on politics. We are all just people on holiday. And no, not a Trump supporter.

Yea keep telling yourself that.

I’m not “acutely self-conscious” about being American right now. I’m acutely embarrassed and ashamed about it and feel an obligation to my country to assure non-Americans that we’re not all nuts.

DP You are free to decide your own obligations. Everyone is free to decide obligations for themselves.

You don’t feel the same way because you’re selfish and when you’re abroad it’s just a vacation.

Not everyone I encounter who comes from controversial governments "assures" me they are not nuts. I don't assume this is because they are "selfish".

You assuming this speaks volumes about you; it says nothing about other people.

What kind of person thinks they need to engage in political messaging abroad? That's a likely path to unpleasantness at best, and to dangerous interactions at worst. You're as likely to be expounding your personal politics to someone who is right-wing as left-wing, or have you not noticed the rise of the right in many countries overseas? But, have at it if you welcome confrontation with strangers, and raising your personal level of risk for no useful purpose other than to make you feel better about your personal politics.

You'll have to get that answer from that PP.

From what I gather, that PP has assigned themself the role of deciding how Americans need to interact with foreigners while abroad. This decision is based on PPs seemingly clairvoyant knowledge of what all foreigners are thinking about Americans in any given circumstance. If your personal experience differs from that PPs, it's not be because PP might be mistaken; you are suffering from hallucinations brought on by -- checks notes -- self-centeredness and ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

I am skeptical of this story. Because people often don’t confuse Australian with British accents. And that you did echoes your own ignorance. But more because people do not live and breathe and die by American politics. Take your hypothetical British couple. Presumably you know who Keir Starmer is? He is also the most unpopular PM in British history, achieving the lowest approval ratings for a PM. His government is abysmally unpopular. Hugely unpopular. Extremely unpopular. Three adjectives and it is probably still an understatement. His government has done things like cancel local elections and mayoral elections because everyone knew Labour would lose. They are planning to eliminate most trial by juries. Then you have deep cultural divisions, economic concers and the mass migration situation. And the Chagos debacle.

The whole point is that people really do not live by American politics. Trump pops up every now and then, causes a fuss, then it's back to their national political issues. That hypothetical British couple would find your outburst both weird and so very American, because Americans are exceedingly insular and seem to think the whole world must have existential anxiety over the latest American political incident, while, of course, utterly ignorant of politics in other countries. It is American arrogance to do what you claimed to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted here a few weeks earlier. I’m back in Latin America. I ran into a tienda last night. An English speaking couple was there, in front of me in line.

“Go ahead of us,” she said.

“No no that’s not necessary I’m in no hurry.”

“Really it’s fine we can’t decide just step up.”

“Ok thank you! Where are you guys from? Can I guess Australia?”

“Nope, English but people confuse the accents.”

“Well I shouldn’t ha ha I know better I’m just an idiot.”

“Where are you from?”

“United States. Live in Washington.”

“Well . . .” Followed by an awkward smile.

“Now wait a minute! I hate Trump and so does everybody I know!”

“Ok great thank God, it’s good to know there are still Americans who aren’t idiots! So how long are you here?”

That’s the new reality of how one opens a conversation these days as an American traveling abroad. Those of you who haven’t experienced it are either clueless and can’t read other people or you don’t talk to anybody beyond your taxi driver. Or maybe you’re Trump supporters?

I am skeptical of this story.

DP I was inclined to be skeptical.

Why would someone make this up? Sounds like a dumb thing to lie about.