Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:Can some one share the regional magnet programs in Woodward region?

Art, Design, Performing Arts, Communication.

So with 30% FARMS + these programs ---> Very little numbers left for higher level STEM classes. Woodward may not offer good STEM courses.

WJ with 15% FARMS rate should be able to offer good STEM courses despite school size going down.

Every school will offer STEM but Woodward will also be able to go to Wheaton for Engineering. Impressive program.

Total number of kids intested in courses will dictate what courses get offered. WJ is likely to have MV but Woodward won't have that.

Disagree re MV. Farmland and Luxmanor have much higher percentages of Asian students than do KP, GP, and Ashburton. In MCPS, a very disproportionate 45% of the students taking the BC Calculus exam are Asian. I think it’s possible MCPS considered this as they have this data.

WJ/Woodward , both have 12-14% Asian. Not significant enough to make any difference.

BC Cal will be there in all schools, but high proverty schools without STEM proragms are not going to have higher level courses than that.

Will BC calc be in person? We will leave public if it's not.

You are not alone, many will leave and it will start a downward slide.

It may be virtual if not enough kids are enrolled to take the course. That's why making Woodward a high FARM without STEM focus will be a mistake. Crown will have a good starft as new school with STEM focus.

Many STEM kids from woodward may join STEM magnet so number of students will dictate if course will be offered in person or virtual.

Some Elementary schools have virtual comapct math due to not having enough kids.

Easiest solution will be to modify boudary a bit and bring equalize FARMS in WJ and Woodward. If it;s not possible then put STEM program in Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:East Silver Spring was untouched in the previous options but these options have 1 that sends the kids to SSIMS, but still to Blair; and another that keeps them at TPMS but then sends them to Northwood. Both split articulations when we weren’t previously. So, these options are wackier for our neighborhood.

Yes. To drive past one high school to get to the one we’d be zoned for under option b is ridiculous.

You do realize this is what pretty much everyone zoned to Sligo Creek has to do? Many live much closer to Blair than to Northwood.

Yeah, of course it seems weird when you look at your individual address and aren't zoned for the closest HS, but it makes sense in the context of the whole county and how the HS's and population are distribution. Then Northwood is getting a new building with larger capacity, and Blair is over-capacity, so of course some students are going to move from Blair to Northwood, and also from Einstein to Northwood.

Re ESS it bothers me less that one option has for Northwood than it does that one does that and a different option changes the middle to SSIMS (which does mostly articulate to Northwood). The current Northwood option keeps these kids at TPMS.

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Does MCPS really offers compact math in elementary as virtual? It's really bad.

Cal BC as virtual in Woodward will be equally bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Can some one share the regional magnet programs in Woodward region?

Art, Design, Performing Arts, Communication.

So with 30% FARMS + these programs ---> Very little numbers left for higher level STEM classes. Woodward may not offer good STEM courses.

WJ with 15% FARMS rate should be able to offer good STEM courses despite school size going down.

Every school will offer STEM but Woodward will also be able to go to Wheaton for Engineering. Impressive program.

Total number of kids intested in courses will dictate what courses get offered. WJ is likely to have MV but Woodward won't have that.

Disagree re MV. Farmland and Luxmanor have much higher percentages of Asian students than do KP, GP, and Ashburton. In MCPS, a very disproportionate 45% of the students taking the BC Calculus exam are Asian. I think it’s possible MCPS considered this as they have this data.

WJ/Woodward , both have 12-14% Asian. Not significant enough to make any difference.

BC Cal will be there in all schools, but high proverty schools without STEM proragms are not going to have higher level courses than that.

Will BC calc be in person? We will leave public if it's not.

You are not alone, many will leave and it will start a downward slide.

It may be virtual if not enough kids are enrolled to take the course. That's why making Woodward a high FARM without STEM focus will be a mistake. Crown will have a good starft as new school with STEM focus.

Many STEM kids from woodward may join STEM magnet so number of students will dictate if course will be offered in person or virtual.

Some Elementary schools have virtual comapct math due to not having enough kids.

Easiest solution will be to modify boudary a bit and bring equalize FARMS in WJ and Woodward. If it;s not possible then put STEM program in Woodward.

DP - 30% is not a “high FARMS” school. Not even close.

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If the school my kids are zoned to doesn't have BC calc, AP physics, AP bio, advanced foreign language etc, we are going private. Still in ES so we are lucky to have time. It's about the classes offered and enough kids who will be hard working enough to take those classes. I live in the same county as ppl in Whitman and BCC and the educational opportunities my kid has access to needs to be the same no matter my address (including not having an extra long bus ride).

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Anonymous wrote:If the school my kids are zoned to doesn't have BC calc, AP physics, AP bio, advanced foreign language etc, we are going private. Still in ES so we are lucky to have time. It's about the classes offered and enough kids who will be hard working enough to take those classes. I live in the same county as ppl in Whitman and BCC and the educational opportunities my kid has access to needs to be the same no matter my address (including not having an extra long bus ride).

Agreed. Every single student should have in person access to these classes wihtout a long bus ride no matter their address.

MCPS may hand wave this by saying their will be access but it may not be in person like many compact classes in elementary schools. It was a news to me when I heard comapct math classes are not in person in some elemnetary schools. It's not good for kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Can some one share the regional magnet programs in Woodward region?

Art, Design, Performing Arts, Communication.

So with 30% FARMS + these programs ---> Very little numbers left for higher level STEM classes. Woodward may not offer good STEM courses.

WJ with 15% FARMS rate should be able to offer good STEM courses despite school size going down.

Every school will offer STEM but Woodward will also be able to go to Wheaton for Engineering. Impressive program.

Total number of kids intested in courses will dictate what courses get offered. WJ is likely to have MV but Woodward won't have that.

Disagree re MV. Farmland and Luxmanor have much higher percentages of Asian students than do KP, GP, and Ashburton. In MCPS, a very disproportionate 45% of the students taking the BC Calculus exam are Asian. I think it’s possible MCPS considered this as they have this data.

WJ/Woodward , both have 12-14% Asian. Not significant enough to make any difference.

BC Cal will be there in all schools, but high proverty schools without STEM proragms are not going to have higher level courses than that.

Will BC calc be in person? We will leave public if it's not.

You are not alone, many will leave and it will start a downward slide.

It may be virtual if not enough kids are enrolled to take the course. That's why making Woodward a high FARM without STEM focus will be a mistake. Crown will have a good starft as new school with STEM focus.

Many STEM kids from woodward may join STEM magnet so number of students will dictate if course will be offered in person or virtual.

Some Elementary schools have virtual comapct math due to not having enough kids.

Easiest solution will be to modify boudary a bit and bring equalize FARMS in WJ and Woodward. If it;s not possible then put STEM program in Woodward.

There is NO virtual for HS. Why bring it up when its not happening and MCPS has been clear on it?

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Anonymous wrote:If the school my kids are zoned to doesn't have BC calc, AP physics, AP bio, advanced foreign language etc, we are going private. Still in ES so we are lucky to have time. It's about the classes offered and enough kids who will be hard working enough to take those classes. I live in the same county as ppl in Whitman and BCC and the educational opportunities my kid has access to needs to be the same no matter my address (including not having an extra long bus ride).

The minimum required is Calc BC, so that's not an issue. Some schools don't have AP science.

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So which of these options do people like best?

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Anonymous wrote:If the school my kids are zoned to doesn't have BC calc, AP physics, AP bio, advanced foreign language etc, we are going private. Still in ES so we are lucky to have time. It's about the classes offered and enough kids who will be hard working enough to take those classes. I live in the same county as ppl in Whitman and BCC and the educational opportunities my kid has access to needs to be the same no matter my address (including not having an extra long bus ride).

Agreed. Every single student should have in person access to these classes wihtout a long bus ride no matter their address.

MCPS may hand wave this by saying their will be access but it may not be in person like many compact classes in elementary schools. It was a news to me when I heard comapct math classes are not in person in some elemnetary schools. It's not good for kids.

It also assumes your child can get in and there probably will not be very many slots at each school.

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I like D

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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS really offers compact math in elementary as virtual? It's really bad.

Cal BC as virtual in Woodward will be equally bad.

For some schools, yes and it makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:These options are so much better than the first set a few months ago! No option exists that will make every single person happy, but at least here you're bussing people one school away instead of across the county, if taking them out of their neighborhood school at all

Better for whom? The Flora Singer parents are pretty unhappy that the initial 4 options had them mostly continuing to Sligo/Einstein and now not a single option has that.

If the buildings weren’t all in various states of disrepair and the principals were given free rein to do whatever they want, parents wouldn’t be as upset about secondary building changes.

Do you speak for all Flora Singer parents? I know kids would be sad about getting split from some of their friends after ES, but that was always a risk because GA Ave is a convenient dividing line. We live on the east side so geographically Northwood is closer. I think option B is nuts because we'd be zoned for SS International when we can walk to Sligo. Heck houses literally across the street from Sligo would be zoned for SSI. That makes zero sense and I plan to submit feedback. But overall I don't think the options are crazy.

Location wise, Einstein is better. Remember in HS there is a lot of back and forth with activities and sports. Northwood will probably be a "better" school if all these changes go through.

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Anonymous wrote:Can some one share the regional magnet programs in Woodward region?

Art, Design, Performing Arts, Communication.

So with 30% FARMS + these programs ---> Very little numbers left for higher level STEM classes. Woodward may not offer good STEM courses.

WJ with 15% FARMS rate should be able to offer good STEM courses despite school size going down.

Every school will offer STEM but Woodward will also be able to go to Wheaton for Engineering. Impressive program.

Total number of kids intested in courses will dictate what courses get offered. WJ is likely to have MV but Woodward won't have that.

Disagree re MV. Farmland and Luxmanor have much higher percentages of Asian students than do KP, GP, and Ashburton. In MCPS, a very disproportionate 45% of the students taking the BC Calculus exam are Asian. I think it’s possible MCPS considered this as they have this data.

WJ/Woodward , both have 12-14% Asian. Not significant enough to make any difference.

BC Cal will be there in all schools, but high proverty schools without STEM proragms are not going to have higher level courses than that.

Will BC calc be in person? We will leave public if it's not.

You are not alone, many will leave and it will start a downward slide.

It may be virtual if not enough kids are enrolled to take the course. That's why making Woodward a high FARM without STEM focus will be a mistake. Crown will have a good starft as new school with STEM focus.

Many STEM kids from woodward may join STEM magnet so number of students will dictate if course will be offered in person or virtual.

Some Elementary schools have virtual comapct math due to not having enough kids.

Easiest solution will be to modify boudary a bit and bring equalize FARMS in WJ and Woodward. If it;s not possible then put STEM program in Woodward.

There is NO virtual for HS. Why bring it up when its not happening and MCPS has been clear on it?

If no virtual in HS then it means students won't have access to higher level courses in science in higher poverty schools not having STEM focused programs.

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Anonymous wrote:So which of these options do people like best?

None for the DCC. Leave the DCC alone.