Changes in LACs

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

the lady doth protest too much! pls move on with this blind advocacy for pomona - you come across like a shill for the school

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Midd have such a large class entering fall 2021? That was the year I thought a lot of students deferred due to Covid.

Who cares?

It's 2025.

Yes. And when their Midd schools abroad - distinct from MIS - virtually went bankrupt (a problem that continues because study abroad since then has dropped precipitously), they decided, for budget reasons, to make the enrollment increase permanent. An understandable outcome. What is not understandable is their communications tack of lying to students and prospective students about it, year in and year out, saying that the enrollment increase was a one-year thing and going back to normal levels.

Spring 2024 admissions visit at Midd: slide said current enrollment was 2500 (off by a few hundred). In answer to a question about the enrollment increase? “We will be returning to 2500 next year.” Did not happen in Fall 2024. DC info session: same thing. And on, and on, and on…

Only recently have they finally admitted the enrollment increase is permanent. But they said it will only be 2650 students, not 2750. Another lie. They admitted the freshman class for this fall consistent with 2750. As we will see when the fall numbers come out….

Can you point to anything documented for your assertion on Middlebury Schools abroad or is it just another one of your exaggerations and outright lies? The budget letter that you previously posted explicitly states that Breadloaf, the Language schools, and Middlebury schools abroad are revenue positive.

Middlebury admitted an incoming class of 640 for the fall which is consistent with 2560 or so on campus (plus 115 Febs to replace the juniors going abroad) so you got that one completely wrong as well.

YOou keep lying and people keep correcting you. Just stop.

So how about you come back and apologize when this fall’s enrollment data shows the school still has well over 2700? Let’s make a deal. If the numbers show more than 2700, you come back, apologize, and spare us your future Midd insight. Otherwise, I will apologize and do the same. Believe me, I would be glad for Midd’s lies to end…

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Midd have such a large class entering fall 2021? That was the year I thought a lot of students deferred due to Covid.

Who cares?

It's 2025.

Yes. And when their Midd schools abroad - distinct from MIS - virtually went bankrupt (a problem that continues because study abroad since then has dropped precipitously), they decided, for budget reasons, to make the enrollment increase permanent. An understandable outcome. What is not understandable is their communications tack of lying to students and prospective students about it, year in and year out, saying that the enrollment increase was a one-year thing and going back to normal levels.

Spring 2024 admissions visit at Midd: slide said current enrollment was 2500 (off by a few hundred). In answer to a question about the enrollment increase? “We will be returning to 2500 next year.” Did not happen in Fall 2024. DC info session: same thing. And on, and on, and on…

Only recently have they finally admitted the enrollment increase is permanent. But they said it will only be 2650 students, not 2750. Another lie. They admitted the freshman class for this fall consistent with 2750. As we will see when the fall numbers come out….

Can you point to anything documented for your assertion on Middlebury Schools abroad or is it just another one of your exaggerations and outright lies? The budget letter that you previously posted explicitly states that Breadloaf, the Language schools, and Middlebury schools abroad are revenue positive.

Middlebury admitted an incoming class of 640 for the fall which is consistent with 2560 or so on campus (plus 115 Febs to replace the juniors going abroad) so you got that one completely wrong as well.

YOou keep lying and people keep correcting you. Just stop.

So how about you come back and apologize when this fall’s enrollment data shows the school still has well over 2700? Let’s make a deal. If the numbers show more than 2700, you come back, apologize, and spare us your future Midd insight. Otherwise, I will apologize and do the same. Believe me, I would be glad for Midd’s lies to end…

And watch out, Midd troll, before you make any kind of deal. The class of 2028 had 600 students and 100 Febs. So this year, by your own numbers, is an increase of 50 kids from the previous year — in that class alone — to accomplish a 200 student decrease in overall undergrad enrollment. Math is your friend. Here is your precious cite: https://www.middlebury.edu/announcements/announcements/2024/09/middlebury-welcomes-class-2028

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Midd have such a large class entering fall 2021? That was the year I thought a lot of students deferred due to Covid.

Who cares?

It's 2025.

Yes. And when their Midd schools abroad - distinct from MIS - virtually went bankrupt (a problem that continues because study abroad since then has dropped precipitously), they decided, for budget reasons, to make the enrollment increase permanent. An understandable outcome. What is not understandable is their communications tack of lying to students and prospective students about it, year in and year out, saying that the enrollment increase was a one-year thing and going back to normal levels.

Spring 2024 admissions visit at Midd: slide said current enrollment was 2500 (off by a few hundred). In answer to a question about the enrollment increase? “We will be returning to 2500 next year.” Did not happen in Fall 2024. DC info session: same thing. And on, and on, and on…

Only recently have they finally admitted the enrollment increase is permanent. But they said it will only be 2650 students, not 2750. Another lie. They admitted the freshman class for this fall consistent with 2750. As we will see when the fall numbers come out….

Can you point to anything documented for your assertion on Middlebury Schools abroad or is it just another one of your exaggerations and outright lies? The budget letter that you previously posted explicitly states that Breadloaf, the Language schools, and Middlebury schools abroad are revenue positive.

Middlebury admitted an incoming class of 640 for the fall which is consistent with 2560 or so on campus (plus 115 Febs to replace the juniors going abroad) so you got that one completely wrong as well.

YOou keep lying and people keep correcting you. Just stop.

So how about you come back and apologize when this fall’s enrollment data shows the school still has well over 2700? Let’s make a deal. If the numbers show more than 2700, you come back, apologize, and spare us your future Midd insight. Otherwise, I will apologize and do the same. Believe me, I would be glad for Midd’s lies to end…

And watch out, Midd troll, before you make any kind of deal. The class of 2028 had 600 students and 100 Febs. So this year, by your own numbers, is an increase of 50 kids from the previous year — in that class alone — to accomplish a 200 student decrease in overall undergrad enrollment. Math is your friend. Here is your precious cite: https://www.middlebury.edu/announcements/announcements/2024/09/middlebury-welcomes-class-2028

OMFG you just don't get it.

There were 2564 students on Campus for this past spring, easy to look up.

They historically have about talk about 2560 kids ON CAMPUS every semester, it has been roughly the same for the last 10 years (all that I can see the data for) except for the bump that happened in 2021 (and it happened to many schools, not just Middlebury) which then took 4 years to work through which it has hence only 2564 kids on campus in the spring.

They said that they were going to add kids to average 2600-2650 kids on campus over the next few years and 40 more kids get an opportunity this year because a NEW DORM opens this coming semester which has 50 more beds that the one it is replacing.

Middlebury admits "Febs" to fill the campus beds for the kids who go abroad each year which is about 100-150 kids hence about 120 kids. The number of kids on campus DOESN'T CHANGE, this isn't hard.

Let me break it down for you:

2564 on Campus in Spring
580 graduated

So we now have 1984 returning on campus students for Fall plus 140 or so returning from abroad so lets say 2125 returning kids which is the same that it has been for years.

2125 returnees plus 640 new kids less 140 or so who will go abroad and you have.....wait for it 2625 or so kids on campus. Next Feb 140 kids go abroad and 120 Febs come in and wait for it....2605 or so kids on campus.

Simple arithmetic using numbers directly from Middlebury. You are correct, math is my friend but it isn't your friend.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Midd have such a large class entering fall 2021? That was the year I thought a lot of students deferred due to Covid.

Who cares?

It's 2025.

Yes. And when their Midd schools abroad - distinct from MIS - virtually went bankrupt (a problem that continues because study abroad since then has dropped precipitously), they decided, for budget reasons, to make the enrollment increase permanent. An understandable outcome. What is not understandable is their communications tack of lying to students and prospective students about it, year in and year out, saying that the enrollment increase was a one-year thing and going back to normal levels.

Spring 2024 admissions visit at Midd: slide said current enrollment was 2500 (off by a few hundred). In answer to a question about the enrollment increase? “We will be returning to 2500 next year.” Did not happen in Fall 2024. DC info session: same thing. And on, and on, and on…

Only recently have they finally admitted the enrollment increase is permanent. But they said it will only be 2650 students, not 2750. Another lie. They admitted the freshman class for this fall consistent with 2750. As we will see when the fall numbers come out….

Can you point to anything documented for your assertion on Middlebury Schools abroad or is it just another one of your exaggerations and outright lies? The budget letter that you previously posted explicitly states that Breadloaf, the Language schools, and Middlebury schools abroad are revenue positive.

Middlebury admitted an incoming class of 640 for the fall which is consistent with 2560 or so on campus (plus 115 Febs to replace the juniors going abroad) so you got that one completely wrong as well.

YOou keep lying and people keep correcting you. Just stop.

So how about you come back and apologize when this fall’s enrollment data shows the school still has well over 2700? Let’s make a deal. If the numbers show more than 2700, you come back, apologize, and spare us your future Midd insight. Otherwise, I will apologize and do the same. Believe me, I would be glad for Midd’s lies to end…

And watch out, Midd troll, before you make any kind of deal. The class of 2028 had 600 students and 100 Febs. So this year, by your own numbers, is an increase of 50 kids from the previous year — in that class alone — to accomplish a 200 student decrease in overall undergrad enrollment. Math is your friend. Here is your precious cite: https://www.middlebury.edu/announcements/announcements/2024/09/middlebury-welcomes-class-2028

OMFG you just don't get it.

There were 2564 students on Campus for this past spring, easy to look up.

They historically have about talk about 2560 kids ON CAMPUS every semester, it has been roughly the same for the last 10 years (all that I can see the data for) except for the bump that happened in 2021 (and it happened to many schools, not just Middlebury) which then took 4 years to work through which it has hence only 2564 kids on campus in the spring.

They said that they were going to add kids to average 2600-2650 kids on campus over the next few years and 40 more kids get an opportunity this year because a NEW DORM opens this coming semester which has 50 more beds that the one it is replacing.

Middlebury admits "Febs" to fill the campus beds for the kids who go abroad each year which is about 100-150 kids hence about 120 kids. The number of kids on campus DOESN'T CHANGE, this isn't hard.

Let me break it down for you:

2564 on Campus in Spring
580 graduated

So we now have 1984 returning on campus students for Fall plus 140 or so returning from abroad so lets say 2125 returning kids which is the same that it has been for years.

2125 returnees plus 640 new kids less 140 or so who will go abroad and you have.....wait for it 2625 or so kids on campus. Next Feb 140 kids go abroad and 120 Febs come in and wait for it....2605 or so kids on campus.

Simple arithmetic using numbers directly from Middlebury. You are correct, math is my friend but it isn't your friend.

Yeah, I didn’t read your wall of text. So you are taking the deal?

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Anonymous wrote:The Maine LACs are all on the rise - Colby, Bates, Bowdoin, Midd.

Also, Hamilton is becoming the new Amherst.

Midd is in Vermont and none of those schools are “rising” any different than years prior, other than maybe Colby.

Hamilton is completely different than Amherst and wants its future to be in tech and AI.

Also, can any of the NESCACs really be described as “on the rise?” Are any of them lacking in respect? Top to bottom, they are the standard on which all other SLACs are judged/compared. Obviously not saying those are the “best” schools, but people take shots at Amherst, Williams, Wes, Hamilton, Mid, Colby, etc. on this board for a reason. I don’t see many Bowdoin people, for example, puffing their chests about how they’re better than W&L.
-NESCAC alum, parent & spouse

I wouldn't say the NESCAC are the standard at all... WASP are. I can see an argument to include Wellesley or Harvey Mudd, but Wesleyan? Hardly even discussed on this forum, same with Hamilton. Middlebury is often talked about with the context of it falling from a top 4 lac and Colby...meh.

OMG. This is a very typical DCUM response in that it acknowledges the existence of only 4 liberal arts colleges. My point is that the NEACACs are the standards at their relative tiers. They are the known names. Even poor Trin and Conn College who are only pariahs in the context of this hyper elitist, striver obsessed, Ivy Plus or nothing board. The point remains that they are known brands and frequent comparators to lesser known lacs in vibe or experience if not “prestige.” And all that said, I’m sorry to break it to you, but you can get an elite education at Wes, Hamilton, Midd, etc. Those schools are far more similar to Amherst and Williams than they are different.

This is a lot of words to say “I can’t handle that some liberal arts colleges are better than my personal favorite.”

One of the WASPs IS my personal favorite! Or at least one of them. Which is why I can confidently say the sun does not rise and set in the Pioneer Valley. Love to discuss the profiles of the SLACs, far down the US News top 100 than most people on this board would care for. But if you come at me with the anointed 4 or nothing, you’re a clown and your opinion means nothing.

Yeesh, Amherst is a $hithole, but glad someone out there likes it.

Why the hate for Amherst? I've seen it on this board over and over, and I don't get it. I'm wondering if it's all the same person. It seems obsessive. So you don't like the school, okay, why post about that incessantly?

And no I have no affiliation with Amherst. But I do have a kid at another school in the Pioneer Valley, and I've been on the campus a few times. Looks lovely to me.

It isn't just Amherst, this board has a few fruit loops on it. There is a Pomona hater constantly spewing drivel, a Middlebury hater who is utterly deranged, and an Amherst hater who tries to make Amherst look like a school with failing facilities due to excessive "wokeness" and DEI. There are others as well.

Pay no attention, Amherst is lovely and a wonderful school.

As a Williams grad, it easy to "hate" on Amherst, as they are the Defectors and stole half of our library (in 1821), but in reality its a great school and you can get a great education there (but maybe not quite as great as Williams. The reality is that the schools will be better fits for different kids, and are in meaningfully different geographic settings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Midd have such a large class entering fall 2021? That was the year I thought a lot of students deferred due to Covid.

Who cares?

It's 2025.

Yes. And when their Midd schools abroad - distinct from MIS - virtually went bankrupt (a problem that continues because study abroad since then has dropped precipitously), they decided, for budget reasons, to make the enrollment increase permanent. An understandable outcome. What is not understandable is their communications tack of lying to students and prospective students about it, year in and year out, saying that the enrollment increase was a one-year thing and going back to normal levels.

Spring 2024 admissions visit at Midd: slide said current enrollment was 2500 (off by a few hundred). In answer to a question about the enrollment increase? “We will be returning to 2500 next year.” Did not happen in Fall 2024. DC info session: same thing. And on, and on, and on…

Only recently have they finally admitted the enrollment increase is permanent. But they said it will only be 2650 students, not 2750. Another lie. They admitted the freshman class for this fall consistent with 2750. As we will see when the fall numbers come out….

Can you point to anything documented for your assertion on Middlebury Schools abroad or is it just another one of your exaggerations and outright lies? The budget letter that you previously posted explicitly states that Breadloaf, the Language schools, and Middlebury schools abroad are revenue positive.

Middlebury admitted an incoming class of 640 for the fall which is consistent with 2560 or so on campus (plus 115 Febs to replace the juniors going abroad) so you got that one completely wrong as well.

YOou keep lying and people keep correcting you. Just stop.

So how about you come back and apologize when this fall’s enrollment data shows the school still has well over 2700? Let’s make a deal. If the numbers show more than 2700, you come back, apologize, and spare us your future Midd insight. Otherwise, I will apologize and do the same. Believe me, I would be glad for Midd’s lies to end…

And watch out, Midd troll, before you make any kind of deal. The class of 2028 had 600 students and 100 Febs. So this year, by your own numbers, is an increase of 50 kids from the previous year — in that class alone — to accomplish a 200 student decrease in overall undergrad enrollment. Math is your friend. Here is your precious cite: https://www.middlebury.edu/announcements/announcements/2024/09/middlebury-welcomes-class-2028

OMFG you just don't get it.

There were 2564 students on Campus for this past spring, easy to look up.

They historically have about talk about 2560 kids ON CAMPUS every semester, it has been roughly the same for the last 10 years (all that I can see the data for) except for the bump that happened in 2021 (and it happened to many schools, not just Middlebury) which then took 4 years to work through which it has hence only 2564 kids on campus in the spring.

They said that they were going to add kids to average 2600-2650 kids on campus over the next few years and 40 more kids get an opportunity this year because a NEW DORM opens this coming semester which has 50 more beds that the one it is replacing.

Middlebury admits "Febs" to fill the campus beds for the kids who go abroad each year which is about 100-150 kids hence about 120 kids. The number of kids on campus DOESN'T CHANGE, this isn't hard.

Let me break it down for you:

2564 on Campus in Spring
580 graduated

So we now have 1984 returning on campus students for Fall plus 140 or so returning from abroad so lets say 2125 returning kids which is the same that it has been for years.

2125 returnees plus 640 new kids less 140 or so who will go abroad and you have.....wait for it 2625 or so kids on campus. Next Feb 140 kids go abroad and 120 Febs come in and wait for it....2605 or so kids on campus.

Simple arithmetic using numbers directly from Middlebury. You are correct, math is my friend but it isn't your friend.

Yeah, I didn’t read your wall of text. So you are taking the deal?

Not surprised that you cannot read, you absolutely cannot count.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

the lady doth protest too much! pls move on with this blind advocacy for pomona - you come across like a shill for the school

That person wasn’t talking about Pomona.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

The CEO of Goldman went to Hamilton, and the president and COO went to Middlebury.

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Anonymous wrote:A majority of LACs will not experience the endowment tax and have not experienced many research cuts from the government. They seem like they could gain a bit of popularity if they invest in student experience. What LACs do you see rising/have continued to rise? For example, some people think Pomona is Williams and Amherst level, which is REALLY surprising, since it was a party school for dolts when I was applying to college!

I think Grinnell will continue to rise. The college has gradually been investing in improving living conditions for students by revamping the dorms and equipping them with A/C. Grinnell is becoming an increasingly comfortable oasis on the prairie.

I have family ties to this school and loved it for my kid. And they give merit! DD went out there for a couple days, interviewed, and loved the school but it was just too isolated for her. Grinnell, IA (the town) is unfortunately a bit of a tough hang. At least for some. If it was in the Des Moines burbs, they’d be going gangbusters.

My kid loved it and received a great education. I'm so glad yours had a good experience, too! With climate change, mine would definitely have appreciated the A/C (which her off-campus house didn't have back in the day). The school seems to keep improving, and yet it stays just enough under the radar that it remains unassuming.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:honestly I know very little about claremont mckenna and have never really come across grads during my 30 year career as a hiring manager in tech and finance. Maybe those kids are killing it in the arts with help from alumni - if so I apologize and stand corrected

No, you're completely off base. They're killing It in finance-KKR is a firm created and forged by CMC alum, including the founder of TechCrunch, CIO of Cascade, S&P President, a Pritzker member, CEO of Accenture, CEO of Goldman, Founder of Perella Weinberg, and...founder of Jane Street. If you are at all in the financial industry, you have interacted with the work of a CMC alum. The school is the number 1 lac for economics and finance.

The CEO of Goldman went to Hamilton, and the president and COO went to Middlebury.

Fun fact, there's been more than one CEO! Weinberg was CEO of Goldman, and then he started his own asset management firm with Joseph Perella (a Lehigh grad). Funny thing, companies have history.

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Enough about Middlebury yikes.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Midd have such a large class entering fall 2021? That was the year I thought a lot of students deferred due to Covid.

Who cares?

It's 2025.

Yes. And when their Midd schools abroad - distinct from MIS - virtually went bankrupt (a problem that continues because study abroad since then has dropped precipitously), they decided, for budget reasons, to make the enrollment increase permanent. An understandable outcome. What is not understandable is their communications tack of lying to students and prospective students about it, year in and year out, saying that the enrollment increase was a one-year thing and going back to normal levels.

Spring 2024 admissions visit at Midd: slide said current enrollment was 2500 (off by a few hundred). In answer to a question about the enrollment increase? “We will be returning to 2500 next year.” Did not happen in Fall 2024. DC info session: same thing. And on, and on, and on…

Only recently have they finally admitted the enrollment increase is permanent. But they said it will only be 2650 students, not 2750. Another lie. They admitted the freshman class for this fall consistent with 2750. As we will see when the fall numbers come out….

Can you point to anything documented for your assertion on Middlebury Schools abroad or is it just another one of your exaggerations and outright lies? The budget letter that you previously posted explicitly states that Breadloaf, the Language schools, and Middlebury schools abroad are revenue positive.

Middlebury admitted an incoming class of 640 for the fall which is consistent with 2560 or so on campus (plus 115 Febs to replace the juniors going abroad) so you got that one completely wrong as well.

YOou keep lying and people keep correcting you. Just stop.

So how about you come back and apologize when this fall’s enrollment data shows the school still has well over 2700? Let’s make a deal. If the numbers show more than 2700, you come back, apologize, and spare us your future Midd insight. Otherwise, I will apologize and do the same. Believe me, I would be glad for Midd’s lies to end…

And watch out, Midd troll, before you make any kind of deal. The class of 2028 had 600 students and 100 Febs. So this year, by your own numbers, is an increase of 50 kids from the previous year — in that class alone — to accomplish a 200 student decrease in overall undergrad enrollment. Math is your friend. Here is your precious cite: https://www.middlebury.edu/announcements/announcements/2024/09/middlebury-welcomes-class-2028

OMFG you just don't get it.

There were 2564 students on Campus for this past spring, easy to look up.

They historically have about talk about 2560 kids ON CAMPUS every semester, it has been roughly the same for the last 10 years (all that I can see the data for) except for the bump that happened in 2021 (and it happened to many schools, not just Middlebury) which then took 4 years to work through which it has hence only 2564 kids on campus in the spring.

They said that they were going to add kids to average 2600-2650 kids on campus over the next few years and 40 more kids get an opportunity this year because a NEW DORM opens this coming semester which has 50 more beds that the one it is replacing.

Middlebury admits "Febs" to fill the campus beds for the kids who go abroad each year which is about 100-150 kids hence about 120 kids. The number of kids on campus DOESN'T CHANGE, this isn't hard.

Let me break it down for you:

2564 on Campus in Spring
580 graduated

So we now have 1984 returning on campus students for Fall plus 140 or so returning from abroad so lets say 2125 returning kids which is the same that it has been for years.

2125 returnees plus 640 new kids less 140 or so who will go abroad and you have.....wait for it 2625 or so kids on campus. Next Feb 140 kids go abroad and 120 Febs come in and wait for it....2605 or so kids on campus.

Simple arithmetic using numbers directly from Middlebury. You are correct, math is my friend but it isn't your friend.

Yeah, I didn’t read your wall of text. So you are taking the deal?

It seems that fair terms have been offered.

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Anonymous wrote:You people REALLY need to get a hobby.

They have one. DCUM is a hobby for many.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Midd have such a large class entering fall 2021? That was the year I thought a lot of students deferred due to Covid.

Who cares?

It's 2025.

Yes. And when their Midd schools abroad - distinct from MIS - virtually went bankrupt (a problem that continues because study abroad since then has dropped precipitously), they decided, for budget reasons, to make the enrollment increase permanent. An understandable outcome. What is not understandable is their communications tack of lying to students and prospective students about it, year in and year out, saying that the enrollment increase was a one-year thing and going back to normal levels.

Spring 2024 admissions visit at Midd: slide said current enrollment was 2500 (off by a few hundred). In answer to a question about the enrollment increase? “We will be returning to 2500 next year.” Did not happen in Fall 2024. DC info session: same thing. And on, and on, and on…

Only recently have they finally admitted the enrollment increase is permanent. But they said it will only be 2650 students, not 2750. Another lie. They admitted the freshman class for this fall consistent with 2750. As we will see when the fall numbers come out….

Can you point to anything documented for your assertion on Middlebury Schools abroad or is it just another one of your exaggerations and outright lies? The budget letter that you previously posted explicitly states that Breadloaf, the Language schools, and Middlebury schools abroad are revenue positive.

Middlebury admitted an incoming class of 640 for the fall which is consistent with 2560 or so on campus (plus 115 Febs to replace the juniors going abroad) so you got that one completely wrong as well.

YOou keep lying and people keep correcting you. Just stop.

So how about you come back and apologize when this fall’s enrollment data shows the school still has well over 2700? Let’s make a deal. If the numbers show more than 2700, you come back, apologize, and spare us your future Midd insight. Otherwise, I will apologize and do the same. Believe me, I would be glad for Midd’s lies to end…

And watch out, Midd troll, before you make any kind of deal. The class of 2028 had 600 students and 100 Febs. So this year, by your own numbers, is an increase of 50 kids from the previous year — in that class alone — to accomplish a 200 student decrease in overall undergrad enrollment. Math is your friend. Here is your precious cite: https://www.middlebury.edu/announcements/announcements/2024/09/middlebury-welcomes-class-2028

OMFG you just don't get it.

There were 2564 students on Campus for this past spring, easy to look up.

They historically have about talk about 2560 kids ON CAMPUS every semester, it has been roughly the same for the last 10 years (all that I can see the data for) except for the bump that happened in 2021 (and it happened to many schools, not just Middlebury) which then took 4 years to work through which it has hence only 2564 kids on campus in the spring.

They said that they were going to add kids to average 2600-2650 kids on campus over the next few years and 40 more kids get an opportunity this year because a NEW DORM opens this coming semester which has 50 more beds that the one it is replacing.

Middlebury admits "Febs" to fill the campus beds for the kids who go abroad each year which is about 100-150 kids hence about 120 kids. The number of kids on campus DOESN'T CHANGE, this isn't hard.

Let me break it down for you:

2564 on Campus in Spring
580 graduated

So we now have 1984 returning on campus students for Fall plus 140 or so returning from abroad so lets say 2125 returning kids which is the same that it has been for years.

2125 returnees plus 640 new kids less 140 or so who will go abroad and you have.....wait for it 2625 or so kids on campus. Next Feb 140 kids go abroad and 120 Febs come in and wait for it....2605 or so kids on campus.

Simple arithmetic using numbers directly from Middlebury. You are correct, math is my friend but it isn't your friend.

Yeah, I didn’t read your wall of text. So you are taking the deal?

It seems that fair terms have been offered.

I believe that Fair terms would be the Troll shutting their pie hole and learning to read.