Is Frumin running again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that when anyone dares criticize Frumin, his supporters come out of the woodwork to say, “He’s just a mere DC Council member, what do you expect him to do?” It’s as if he’s still on the ANC with no real power. Frumin could throw his weight around a bit on this matter but chooses not to because he’s seemingly scared of angering extremely online white leftists (a tiny portion of DC’s population). He pays zero attention to his actual constituents, who are gonna dump him on his mediocre white ass if just one viable opponent steps up.

Amen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can research what it takes to produce affordable housing nationally and in the District. You can also research the history of racism west of Rock creek Park and you can research how laws are passed in DC, including the composition of the DC Council.

Then you can connect dots.

ANC 3F — which is most affected by vouchers — was not one of the racist parts of Ward 3. Forest Hills was one of the neighborhoods without a covenant prohibiting Blacks and Jews. So if Frumin is intent on righting the wrongs, he could focus on Spring Valley (which did have a covenant) or his own AU park. But he’s essentially Nimbying a d leaving other parts of Ward 3 to shoulder policies that have significantly increased crime and haven’t shown many benefits beyond enriching landlords.

Those of us who have been following this thread are still waiting for an explanation of what statutory authority the Ward 3 councilmember has to direct vouchers to one part of the city or another or to restructure or pause the implementation of the program. If we are missing something, please let us know.

Ah, yes, the enfeebled powerless councilmember.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can research what it takes to produce affordable housing nationally and in the District. You can also research the history of racism west of Rock creek Park and you can research how laws are passed in DC, including the composition of the DC Council.

Then you can connect dots.

ANC 3F — which is most affected by vouchers — was not one of the racist parts of Ward 3. Forest Hills was one of the neighborhoods without a covenant prohibiting Blacks and Jews. So if Frumin is intent on righting the wrongs, he could focus on Spring Valley (which did have a covenant) or his own AU park. But he’s essentially Nimbying a d leaving other parts of Ward 3 to shoulder policies that have significantly increased crime and haven’t shown many benefits beyond enriching landlords.

Those of us who have been following this thread are still waiting for an explanation of what statutory authority the Ward 3 councilmember has to direct vouchers to one part of the city or another or to restructure or pause the implementation of the program. If we are missing something, please let us know.

Found it! “The Council’s central role as a legislative body is to make laws.”

https://dccouncil.gov/

lol!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't have sole authority to direct vouchers to another part of the city, but it's his literal JOB to advocate for the residents of the ward he represents, who are being negatively impacted by a poorly-run program.

It's his literal JOB to convince, cajole, strong-arm, etc. various parties towards policies that benefit his ward. This is how our system of government works.

If he isn't willing to do his JOB, or is putting the interests of residents from other wards above the interests of the residents he represents, he should find another job.

As has been said before on this thread, it would be counterproductive for him to make public criticisms of the program. His predecessor did that for instance and sparked a huge backlash.

You have valid concerns about the program, but this is a sensitive issue by virtue of Ward 3 being the wealthiest part of the city. If you’re interested in exploring how the program can be changed, you should request a meeting with him to discuss.



OK, so tell us all the great stuff he's done for the constituents of ward 3. Getting popcorn.
I strongly suspect that he is doing what he can behind the scenes, but is keeping quiet about it publicly for the reason previously stated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't have sole authority to direct vouchers to another part of the city, but it's his literal JOB to advocate for the residents of the ward he represents, who are being negatively impacted by a poorly-run program.

It's his literal JOB to convince, cajole, strong-arm, etc. various parties towards policies that benefit his ward. This is how our system of government works.

If he isn't willing to do his JOB, or is putting the interests of residents from other wards above the interests of the residents he represents, he should find another job.

How do you know he hasn't tried with the Mayor and Directors of the different departments? Have you asked? Or are you just complaining on a website? Because if yu were really concerned, then there should be records of calls and emails to his office for action. Have you done that?

NP, when I wrote to his office, he didn't write back. Stop making excuses for him. You're either him, married to him or you work for him.

I’ve sent a few emails to him. Sometimes I get a response and sometimes I don’t. I’ve emailed a few CMs over the past few years and he is the only one I’ve ever received a response from. Often I find that I get a quicker response by emailing his staff and is responding to constituents is their primary job, but it can be hit or miss. In any case, his office likely receives many more emails than they have the resources to respond to in the course of a day, so I would recommend not drawing too broad a conclusion from a single non-response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can research what it takes to produce affordable housing nationally and in the District. You can also research the history of racism west of Rock creek Park and you can research how laws are passed in DC, including the composition of the DC Council.

Then you can connect dots.

ANC 3F — which is most affected by vouchers — was not one of the racist parts of Ward 3. Forest Hills was one of the neighborhoods without a covenant prohibiting Blacks and Jews. So if Frumin is intent on righting the wrongs, he could focus on Spring Valley (which did have a covenant) or his own AU park. But he’s essentially Nimbying a d leaving other parts of Ward 3 to shoulder policies that have significantly increased crime and haven’t shown many benefits beyond enriching landlords.

Those of us who have been following this thread are still waiting for an explanation of what statutory authority the Ward 3 councilmember has to direct vouchers to one part of the city or another or to restructure or pause the implementation of the program. If we are missing something, please let us know.

Found it! “The Council’s central role as a legislative body is to make laws.”

https://dccouncil.gov/

lol!!!

Frumin is one of 13 council members. I would hope that you could understand that it a single CM cannot unilaterally pass legislation banning the use of housing vouchers in their ward, but maybe that’s too generous of an assumption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can research what it takes to produce affordable housing nationally and in the District. You can also research the history of racism west of Rock creek Park and you can research how laws are passed in DC, including the composition of the DC Council.

Then you can connect dots.

ANC 3F — which is most affected by vouchers — was not one of the racist parts of Ward 3. Forest Hills was one of the neighborhoods without a covenant prohibiting Blacks and Jews. So if Frumin is intent on righting the wrongs, he could focus on Spring Valley (which did have a covenant) or his own AU park. But he’s essentially Nimbying a d leaving other parts of Ward 3 to shoulder policies that have significantly increased crime and haven’t shown many benefits beyond enriching landlords.

Those of us who have been following this thread are still waiting for an explanation of what statutory authority the Ward 3 councilmember has to direct vouchers to one part of the city or another or to restructure or pause the implementation of the program. If we are missing something, please let us know.

Found it! “The Council’s central role as a legislative body is to make laws.”

https://dccouncil.gov/

lol!!!

And you all think it is politically viable for a ward 3 councilmember to try to get votes for this? Really? as it is, the racists in Chevy Chase are doing a darned good job of isolating the ward from the rest of the city...we don't need a councilmember who would codify the perceptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't have sole authority to direct vouchers to another part of the city, but it's his literal JOB to advocate for the residents of the ward he represents, who are being negatively impacted by a poorly-run program.

It's his literal JOB to convince, cajole, strong-arm, etc. various parties towards policies that benefit his ward. This is how our system of government works.

If he isn't willing to do his JOB, or is putting the interests of residents from other wards above the interests of the residents he represents, he should find another job.

How do you know he hasn't tried with the Mayor and Directors of the different departments? Have you asked? Or are you just complaining on a website? Because if yu were really concerned, then there should be records of calls and emails to his office for action. Have you done that?

NP, when I wrote to his office, he didn't write back. Stop making excuses for him. You're either him, married to him or you work for him.

Strange, for the few times I have had to reach out to his office, they get back to me within the same day or the next. You know, they keep records on all of the emails, meetings and correspondences right? So if someone actually wanted to look at see how long it took for them to respond to a constituent, or if they responded at all, it would be pretty easy to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't have sole authority to direct vouchers to another part of the city, but it's his literal JOB to advocate for the residents of the ward he represents, who are being negatively impacted by a poorly-run program.

It's his literal JOB to convince, cajole, strong-arm, etc. various parties towards policies that benefit his ward. This is how our system of government works.

If he isn't willing to do his JOB, or is putting the interests of residents from other wards above the interests of the residents he represents, he should find another job.

How do you know he hasn't tried with the Mayor and Directors of the different departments? Have you asked? Or are you just complaining on a website? Because if yu were really concerned, then there should be records of calls and emails to his office for action. Have you done that?

NP, when I wrote to his office, he didn't write back. Stop making excuses for him. You're either him, married to him or you work for him.

Strange, for the few times I have had to reach out to his office, they get back to me within the same day or the next. You know, they keep records on all of the emails, meetings and correspondences right? So if someone actually wanted to look at see how long it took for them to respond to a constituent, or if they responded at all, it would be pretty easy to see.

I will say this...we reached out to Frumin's office on an issue and didn't hear back for 10 days.

On the 10th day, we finally received a response that rectified the situation and it included tons of back-and-forth emails with a city agency. It was clear his office received my email and worked hard to solve it, but the radio silence in between would never provide such an indication. So, I went form pissed to very happy (and impressed it all got resolved in 10 days).

I was kind of pissed for days 1-9 because I had not heard anything...my suggestion for his office is just to send a quick note acknowledging receipt or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can research what it takes to produce affordable housing nationally and in the District. You can also research the history of racism west of Rock creek Park and you can research how laws are passed in DC, including the composition of the DC Council.

Then you can connect dots.

ANC 3F — which is most affected by vouchers — was not one of the racist parts of Ward 3. Forest Hills was one of the neighborhoods without a covenant prohibiting Blacks and Jews. So if Frumin is intent on righting the wrongs, he could focus on Spring Valley (which did have a covenant) or his own AU park. But he’s essentially Nimbying a d leaving other parts of Ward 3 to shoulder policies that have significantly increased crime and haven’t shown many benefits beyond enriching landlords.

Those of us who have been following this thread are still waiting for an explanation of what statutory authority the Ward 3 councilmember has to direct vouchers to one part of the city or another or to restructure or pause the implementation of the program. If we are missing something, please let us know.

Found it! “The Council’s central role as a legislative body is to make laws.”

https://dccouncil.gov/

lol!!!

Frumin is one of 13 council members. I would hope that you could understand that it a single CM cannot unilaterally pass legislation banning the use of housing vouchers in their ward, but maybe that’s too generous of an assumption.

Maybe so, but his literal job is to represent the best interests of THIS ward. If he is too scared to do that (or worse, doesn't BELIEVE in what the majority of his constituents want), he should move to another ward and run there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can research what it takes to produce affordable housing nationally and in the District. You can also research the history of racism west of Rock creek Park and you can research how laws are passed in DC, including the composition of the DC Council.

Then you can connect dots.

ANC 3F — which is most affected by vouchers — was not one of the racist parts of Ward 3. Forest Hills was one of the neighborhoods without a covenant prohibiting Blacks and Jews. So if Frumin is intent on righting the wrongs, he could focus on Spring Valley (which did have a covenant) or his own AU park. But he’s essentially Nimbying a d leaving other parts of Ward 3 to shoulder policies that have significantly increased crime and haven’t shown many benefits beyond enriching landlords.

Those of us who have been following this thread are still waiting for an explanation of what statutory authority the Ward 3 councilmember has to direct vouchers to one part of the city or another or to restructure or pause the implementation of the program. If we are missing something, please let us know.

Found it! “The Council’s central role as a legislative body is to make laws.”

https://dccouncil.gov/

lol!!!

Frumin is one of 13 council members. I would hope that you could understand that it a single CM cannot unilaterally pass legislation banning the use of housing vouchers in their ward, but maybe that’s too generous of an assumption.

Maybe so, but his literal job is to represent the best interests of THIS ward. If he is too scared to do that (or worse, doesn't BELIEVE in what the majority of his constituents want), he should move to another ward and run there.

If what he would advocate for is a political non-starter with enough other councilmembers and Mayor, then it is a waste of time and political capital. Surely even you are smart enough to understand that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He doesn't have sole authority to direct vouchers to another part of the city, but it's his literal JOB to advocate for the residents of the ward he represents, who are being negatively impacted by a poorly-run program.

It's his literal JOB to convince, cajole, strong-arm, etc. various parties towards policies that benefit his ward. This is how our system of government works.

If he isn't willing to do his JOB, or is putting the interests of residents from other wards above the interests of the residents he represents, he should find another job.

How do you know he hasn't tried with the Mayor and Directors of the different departments? Have you asked? Or are you just complaining on a website? Because if yu were really concerned, then there should be records of calls and emails to his office for action. Have you done that?

NP, when I wrote to his office, he didn't write back. Stop making excuses for him. You're either him, married to him or you work for him.

Strange, for the few times I have had to reach out to his office, they get back to me within the same day or the next. You know, they keep records on all of the emails, meetings and correspondences right? So if someone actually wanted to look at see how long it took for them to respond to a constituent, or if they responded at all, it would be pretty easy to see.

I will say this...we reached out to Frumin's office on an issue and didn't hear back for 10 days.

On the 10th day, we finally received a response that rectified the situation and it included tons of back-and-forth emails with a city agency. It was clear his office received my email and worked hard to solve it, but the radio silence in between would never provide such an indication. So, I went form pissed to very happy (and impressed it all got resolved in 10 days).

I was kind of pissed for days 1-9 because I had not heard anything...my suggestion for his office is just to send a quick note acknowledging receipt or something.

I had a similar experience. I contacted his office about an issue and he responded referring me to one of his staff members. I e-mailed and even called the staff member and didn't get anything back for weeks. I got mad for a while about being ghosted and then kinda resigned myself to the reality that I was making too big a fuss about an issue that no one else seemed to care about. And then, not longer after I had given up, I came across Matt Frumin himself out inspecting the issue with his own eyes. We chatted about it and then he did his best thereafter to get it figured out. Others may have had different experiences, but I was rather amazed at the quality of his constituent service - I can't think of too many other councilmembers who would engage like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can research what it takes to produce affordable housing nationally and in the District. You can also research the history of racism west of Rock creek Park and you can research how laws are passed in DC, including the composition of the DC Council.

Then you can connect dots.

ANC 3F — which is most affected by vouchers — was not one of the racist parts of Ward 3. Forest Hills was one of the neighborhoods without a covenant prohibiting Blacks and Jews. So if Frumin is intent on righting the wrongs, he could focus on Spring Valley (which did have a covenant) or his own AU park. But he’s essentially Nimbying a d leaving other parts of Ward 3 to shoulder policies that have significantly increased crime and haven’t shown many benefits beyond enriching landlords.

Those of us who have been following this thread are still waiting for an explanation of what statutory authority the Ward 3 councilmember has to direct vouchers to one part of the city or another or to restructure or pause the implementation of the program. If we are missing something, please let us know.

Found it! “The Council’s central role as a legislative body is to make laws.”

https://dccouncil.gov/

lol!!!

Frumin is one of 13 council members. I would hope that you could understand that it a single CM cannot unilaterally pass legislation banning the use of housing vouchers in their ward, but maybe that’s too generous of an assumption.

Maybe so, but his literal job is to represent the best interests of THIS ward. If he is too scared to do that (or worse, doesn't BELIEVE in what the majority of his constituents want), he should move to another ward and run there.

What exactly is the policy outcome you seek? What exactly do you want to happen?

If you can tell us this, we can give you feedback on whether we think it is something he could be reasonably expected to make it happen and, if so, how you might go about getting him to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.