Is Frumin running again?

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Anonymous wrote:He doesn't have sole authority to direct vouchers to another part of the city, but it's his literal JOB to advocate for the residents of the ward he represents, who are being negatively impacted by a poorly-run program.

It's his literal JOB to convince, cajole, strong-arm, etc. various parties towards policies that benefit his ward. This is how our system of government works.

If he isn't willing to do his JOB, or is putting the interests of residents from other wards above the interests of the residents he represents, he should find another job.

How do you know he hasn't tried with the Mayor and Directors of the different departments? Have you asked? Or are you just complaining on a website? Because if yu were really concerned, then there should be records of calls and emails to his office for action. Have you done that?

NP, when I wrote to his office, he didn't write back. Stop making excuses for him. You're either him, married to him or you work for him.

I’ve sent a few emails to him. Sometimes I get a response and sometimes I don’t. I’ve emailed a few CMs over the past few years and he is the only one I’ve ever received a response from. Often I find that I get a quicker response by emailing his staff and is responding to constituents is their primary job, but it can be hit or miss. In any case, his office likely receives many more emails than they have the resources to respond to in the course of a day, so I would recommend not drawing too broad a conclusion from a single non-response.

He's been good about responding to me, too. I have rented in DC for 20 years and I don't think that it makes me less of a citizen than those who own property.

Of course it does not make you less of a citizen. But, the point is that a 30 year old single guy with a marginal job that rents in a luxury apartment building is financially illiterate. If that’s how he handles his personal finances that on him. But, we don’t want him providing oversight of the District’s $20 Billion annual budget. That’s seems like a bad idea.

This argument is pretty foolish. First of all, none of you have any idea what the man’s take-home salary is. People don’t usually live somewhere they can’t afford, so let’s not pretend we’re his accountant.

I also took a minute to look him up on LinkedIn. He’s worked at several reputable trade associations and companies, so calling him “lightly employed” just isn’t accurate. Frankly, I can’t even figure out where Matt Frumin has ever worked in the private sector.
From where I’m sitting, he was a failed politician in Michigan and he’s been a failed politician here.

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Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.

The problem with Frumin is he still acts like he’s on the ANC. You’d think the job came with no authority, no oversight, and no responsibility for results. A councilmember is supposed to actually get things done. I just haven’t seen much of that.

Sure, it would be tough to have a freshman councilmember again. Maybe. But right now we’ve basically got an absent one. He’s technically there, but nothing really seems to happen.

And the way you describe it sounds like you’re talking about the same person, An ANC commissioner with some Main Street experience.

There’s a difference between being a leader like Mary Cheh and being a councilmember like Frumin. Cheh understood the job, Frumin never did and never will.

I would consider the progress made to get housing at Chevy Chase to be a significant win. Beyond that, if the mayor chooses to ignore the will of the people in favor of business interests where traffic and parking are concerned, i don't think it is a shortcoming of the Councilmember.

But you make it sound like a councilmember can simply make things happen, irrespective of the Mayor or other councilmembers, and in the real world, that isn't the case. The fact is, Ward 3 has significant NIMBY/Boomer issues that limit what happens there and the politicians are happy to prioritize places where there isn't as much pushback when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Who says housing is needed in Chevy Chase? Only developers. People currently in Ward 3 are able to afford living in Ward 3. So what is he actually? The housing project is for those not yet living in Ward 3. What else has he done for those living in Ward 3?

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Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.

The problem with Frumin is he still acts like he’s on the ANC. You’d think the job came with no authority, no oversight, and no responsibility for results. A councilmember is supposed to actually get things done. I just haven’t seen much of that.

Sure, it would be tough to have a freshman councilmember again. Maybe. But right now we’ve basically got an absent one. He’s technically there, but nothing really seems to happen.

And the way you describe it sounds like you’re talking about the same person, An ANC commissioner with some Main Street experience.

There’s a difference between being a leader like Mary Cheh and being a councilmember like Frumin. Cheh understood the job, Frumin never did and never will.

I would consider the progress made to get housing at Chevy Chase to be a significant win. Beyond that, if the mayor chooses to ignore the will of the people in favor of business interests where traffic and parking are concerned, i don't think it is a shortcoming of the Councilmember.

But you make it sound like a councilmember can simply make things happen, irrespective of the Mayor or other councilmembers, and in the real world, that isn't the case. The fact is, Ward 3 has significant NIMBY/Boomer issues that limit what happens there and the politicians are happy to prioritize places where there isn't as much pushback when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Who says housing is needed in Chevy Chase? Only developers. People currently in Ward 3 are able to afford living in Ward 3. So what is he actually? The housing project is for those not yet living in Ward 3. What else has he done for those living in Ward 3?

The DC Comprehensive Plan and the DC Office of Planning both call for more affordable housing in Rock Creek West, which includes Chevy Chase, DC. Sure, the people who can afford to live there live there. What about the people who work there, like teachers at Lafayette or firefighters who are at Engine 31 the check out clerks at the Safeway? They cannot afford to live there and have to commute in fro far flung places to serve the neighborhood. It HELPS the neighborhood to have affordable housing in it and that SERVES the neighborhood.

The developer giveaway is if the city simply rebuilds what is there, paying developers to rebuild and not get anything else of value out of the city owner property. Why not leverage public assets for public good?

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Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.

The problem with Frumin is he still acts like he’s on the ANC. You’d think the job came with no authority, no oversight, and no responsibility for results. A councilmember is supposed to actually get things done. I just haven’t seen much of that.

Sure, it would be tough to have a freshman councilmember again. Maybe. But right now we’ve basically got an absent one. He’s technically there, but nothing really seems to happen.

And the way you describe it sounds like you’re talking about the same person, An ANC commissioner with some Main Street experience.

There’s a difference between being a leader like Mary Cheh and being a councilmember like Frumin. Cheh understood the job, Frumin never did and never will.

I would consider the progress made to get housing at Chevy Chase to be a significant win. Beyond that, if the mayor chooses to ignore the will of the people in favor of business interests where traffic and parking are concerned, i don't think it is a shortcoming of the Councilmember.

But you make it sound like a councilmember can simply make things happen, irrespective of the Mayor or other councilmembers, and in the real world, that isn't the case. The fact is, Ward 3 has significant NIMBY/Boomer issues that limit what happens there and the politicians are happy to prioritize places where there isn't as much pushback when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Who says housing is needed in Chevy Chase? Only developers. People currently in Ward 3 are able to afford living in Ward 3. So what is he actually? The housing project is for those not yet living in Ward 3. What else has he done for those living in Ward 3?

The DC Comprehensive Plan and the DC Office of Planning both call for more affordable housing in Rock Creek West, which includes Chevy Chase, DC. Sure, the people who can afford to live there live there. What about the people who work there, like teachers at Lafayette or firefighters who are at Engine 31 the check out clerks at the Safeway? They cannot afford to live there and have to commute in fro far flung places to serve the neighborhood. It HELPS the neighborhood to have affordable housing in it and that SERVES the neighborhood.

The developer giveaway is if the city simply rebuilds what is there, paying developers to rebuild and not get anything else of value out of the city owner property. Why not leverage public assets for public good?

The Comp has plan was written pre DOGE and is basically worthless and dangerous to rely on. To the extent DC still needs additional housing, if at all, it should be located in downtown areas.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.

The problem with Frumin is he still acts like he’s on the ANC. You’d think the job came with no authority, no oversight, and no responsibility for results. A councilmember is supposed to actually get things done. I just haven’t seen much of that.

Sure, it would be tough to have a freshman councilmember again. Maybe. But right now we’ve basically got an absent one. He’s technically there, but nothing really seems to happen.

And the way you describe it sounds like you’re talking about the same person, An ANC commissioner with some Main Street experience.

There’s a difference between being a leader like Mary Cheh and being a councilmember like Frumin. Cheh understood the job, Frumin never did and never will.

I would consider the progress made to get housing at Chevy Chase to be a significant win. Beyond that, if the mayor chooses to ignore the will of the people in favor of business interests where traffic and parking are concerned, i don't think it is a shortcoming of the Councilmember.

But you make it sound like a councilmember can simply make things happen, irrespective of the Mayor or other councilmembers, and in the real world, that isn't the case. The fact is, Ward 3 has significant NIMBY/Boomer issues that limit what happens there and the politicians are happy to prioritize places where there isn't as much pushback when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Who says housing is needed in Chevy Chase? Only developers. People currently in Ward 3 are able to afford living in Ward 3. So what is he actually? The housing project is for those not yet living in Ward 3. What else has he done for those living in Ward 3?

The DC Comprehensive Plan and the DC Office of Planning both call for more affordable housing in Rock Creek West, which includes Chevy Chase, DC. Sure, the people who can afford to live there live there. What about the people who work there, like teachers at Lafayette or firefighters who are at Engine 31 the check out clerks at the Safeway? They cannot afford to live there and have to commute in fro far flung places to serve the neighborhood. It HELPS the neighborhood to have affordable housing in it and that SERVES the neighborhood.

The developer giveaway is if the city simply rebuilds what is there, paying developers to rebuild and not get anything else of value out of the city owner property. Why not leverage public assets for public good?

The Comp has plan was written pre DOGE and is basically worthless and dangerous to rely on. To the extent DC still needs additional housing, if at all, it should be located in downtown areas.

Downtown areas already has housing. Wards 5, 7 and 8 already have affordable housing. Why should there not be affordable housing in ward 3?

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Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.

The problem with Frumin is he still acts like he’s on the ANC. You’d think the job came with no authority, no oversight, and no responsibility for results. A councilmember is supposed to actually get things done. I just haven’t seen much of that.

Sure, it would be tough to have a freshman councilmember again. Maybe. But right now we’ve basically got an absent one. He’s technically there, but nothing really seems to happen.

And the way you describe it sounds like you’re talking about the same person, An ANC commissioner with some Main Street experience.

There’s a difference between being a leader like Mary Cheh and being a councilmember like Frumin. Cheh understood the job, Frumin never did and never will.

I would consider the progress made to get housing at Chevy Chase to be a significant win. Beyond that, if the mayor chooses to ignore the will of the people in favor of business interests where traffic and parking are concerned, i don't think it is a shortcoming of the Councilmember.

But you make it sound like a councilmember can simply make things happen, irrespective of the Mayor or other councilmembers, and in the real world, that isn't the case. The fact is, Ward 3 has significant NIMBY/Boomer issues that limit what happens there and the politicians are happy to prioritize places where there isn't as much pushback when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Who says housing is needed in Chevy Chase? Only developers. People currently in Ward 3 are able to afford living in Ward 3. So what is he actually? The housing project is for those not yet living in Ward 3. What else has he done for those living in Ward 3?

The DC Comprehensive Plan and the DC Office of Planning both call for more affordable housing in Rock Creek West, which includes Chevy Chase, DC. Sure, the people who can afford to live there live there. What about the people who work there, like teachers at Lafayette or firefighters who are at Engine 31 the check out clerks at the Safeway? They cannot afford to live there and have to commute in fro far flung places to serve the neighborhood. It HELPS the neighborhood to have affordable housing in it and that SERVES the neighborhood.

The developer giveaway is if the city simply rebuilds what is there, paying developers to rebuild and not get anything else of value out of the city owner property. Why not leverage public assets for public good?

The Comp has plan was written pre DOGE and is basically worthless and dangerous to rely on. To the extent DC still needs additional housing, if at all, it should be located in downtown areas.

Downtown areas already has housing. Wards 5, 7 and 8 already have affordable housing. Why should there not be affordable housing in ward 3?

Because there are currently hundreds of vacant units currently for rent or sale in Ward 3. Because DC lost 25,000 federal jobs last year. Because the Ward 3 schools are already comically overcrowded while Wards 5, 7, and 8 have excess capacity and are in danger of closing because of lack of enrollment and the funding that is attached to enrollment. Because GSA is selling excess property in prime locations downtown that needs to be turned into housing or it will become blighted. That good?

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Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.

The problem with Frumin is he still acts like he’s on the ANC. You’d think the job came with no authority, no oversight, and no responsibility for results. A councilmember is supposed to actually get things done. I just haven’t seen much of that.

Sure, it would be tough to have a freshman councilmember again. Maybe. But right now we’ve basically got an absent one. He’s technically there, but nothing really seems to happen.

And the way you describe it sounds like you’re talking about the same person, An ANC commissioner with some Main Street experience.

There’s a difference between being a leader like Mary Cheh and being a councilmember like Frumin. Cheh understood the job, Frumin never did and never will.

I would consider the progress made to get housing at Chevy Chase to be a significant win. Beyond that, if the mayor chooses to ignore the will of the people in favor of business interests where traffic and parking are concerned, i don't think it is a shortcoming of the Councilmember.

But you make it sound like a councilmember can simply make things happen, irrespective of the Mayor or other councilmembers, and in the real world, that isn't the case. The fact is, Ward 3 has significant NIMBY/Boomer issues that limit what happens there and the politicians are happy to prioritize places where there isn't as much pushback when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Who says housing is needed in Chevy Chase? Only developers. People currently in Ward 3 are able to afford living in Ward 3. So what is he actually? The housing project is for those not yet living in Ward 3. What else has he done for those living in Ward 3?

The DC Comprehensive Plan and the DC Office of Planning both call for more affordable housing in Rock Creek West, which includes Chevy Chase, DC. Sure, the people who can afford to live there live there. What about the people who work there, like teachers at Lafayette or firefighters who are at Engine 31 the check out clerks at the Safeway? They cannot afford to live there and have to commute in fro far flung places to serve the neighborhood. It HELPS the neighborhood to have affordable housing in it and that SERVES the neighborhood.

The developer giveaway is if the city simply rebuilds what is there, paying developers to rebuild and not get anything else of value out of the city owner property. Why not leverage public assets for public good?

The Comp has plan was written pre DOGE and is basically worthless and dangerous to rely on. To the extent DC still needs additional housing, if at all, it should be located in downtown areas.

Downtown areas already has housing. Wards 5, 7 and 8 already have affordable housing. Why should there not be affordable housing in ward 3?

Because there are currently hundreds of vacant units currently for rent or sale in Ward 3. Because DC lost 25,000 federal jobs last year. Because the Ward 3 schools are already comically overcrowded while Wards 5, 7, and 8 have excess capacity and are in danger of closing because of lack of enrollment and the funding that is attached to enrollment. Because GSA is selling excess property in prime locations downtown that needs to be turned into housing or it will become blighted. That good?

Sounds like basic NIMBY talk to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.

The problem with Frumin is he still acts like he’s on the ANC. You’d think the job came with no authority, no oversight, and no responsibility for results. A councilmember is supposed to actually get things done. I just haven’t seen much of that.

Sure, it would be tough to have a freshman councilmember again. Maybe. But right now we’ve basically got an absent one. He’s technically there, but nothing really seems to happen.

And the way you describe it sounds like you’re talking about the same person, An ANC commissioner with some Main Street experience.

There’s a difference between being a leader like Mary Cheh and being a councilmember like Frumin. Cheh understood the job, Frumin never did and never will.

I would consider the progress made to get housing at Chevy Chase to be a significant win. Beyond that, if the mayor chooses to ignore the will of the people in favor of business interests where traffic and parking are concerned, i don't think it is a shortcoming of the Councilmember.

But you make it sound like a councilmember can simply make things happen, irrespective of the Mayor or other councilmembers, and in the real world, that isn't the case. The fact is, Ward 3 has significant NIMBY/Boomer issues that limit what happens there and the politicians are happy to prioritize places where there isn't as much pushback when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Who says housing is needed in Chevy Chase? Only developers. People currently in Ward 3 are able to afford living in Ward 3. So what is he actually? The housing project is for those not yet living in Ward 3. What else has he done for those living in Ward 3?

The DC Comprehensive Plan and the DC Office of Planning both call for more affordable housing in Rock Creek West, which includes Chevy Chase, DC. Sure, the people who can afford to live there live there. What about the people who work there, like teachers at Lafayette or firefighters who are at Engine 31 the check out clerks at the Safeway? They cannot afford to live there and have to commute in fro far flung places to serve the neighborhood. It HELPS the neighborhood to have affordable housing in it and that SERVES the neighborhood.

The developer giveaway is if the city simply rebuilds what is there, paying developers to rebuild and not get anything else of value out of the city owner property. Why not leverage public assets for public good?

The Comp has plan was written pre DOGE and is basically worthless and dangerous to rely on. To the extent DC still needs additional housing, if at all, it should be located in downtown areas.

Downtown areas already has housing. Wards 5, 7 and 8 already have affordable housing. Why should there not be affordable housing in ward 3?

Because there are currently hundreds of vacant units currently for rent or sale in Ward 3. Because DC lost 25,000 federal jobs last year. Because the Ward 3 schools are already comically overcrowded while Wards 5, 7, and 8 have excess capacity and are in danger of closing because of lack of enrollment and the funding that is attached to enrollment. Because GSA is selling excess property in prime locations downtown that needs to be turned into housing or it will become blighted. That good?

Sounds like basic NIMBY talk to me.

EVERYTHING sounds like NIMBY talk to you.

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When people say "the poors" should live somewhere else, it is about as NIMBY as it gets.

Just own it.

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Anonymous wrote:I see he has two challengers now? Any thoughts?

One is a Chevy Chase NIMBY, the other is a very young YIMBY urbanist. Both will draw from core constituencies if they can get their messages out, but Frumin is the incumbent and is a centrist compared to both of these challengers, who could not be more diametrically opposite from each other.

I don't know if I'd say early-30s is "very young", bur maybe "younger" which is not necessarily a bad thing.

His experience is a, what, 2 term ANC commissioner who advocated for bike lanes and helped the Main Street on his single member district. Frumin was on ANC 3E for years and was its chair for a stretch. He also was the head of the Tenley Main Street board, as well as several education and housing boards with results. He advocated for bike lanes and the mayor changed her mind because of f downtown and ward 3 business complaints. But he has a win in getting dmped moving with the Chevy Chase project.

Is he the best Ward Councilmemebr ever? No. Does his seniority and committee oversight of dmped give Ward 3 some advantages if he stays in office? Most likely. A freshmen council member doesn’t get a committee chair. Is it worth losing that for an aging NIMBY or a ‘young’ ANC commissioner who has less experience and contacts in the ward and city? Not to my eye.

The problem with Frumin is he still acts like he’s on the ANC. You’d think the job came with no authority, no oversight, and no responsibility for results. A councilmember is supposed to actually get things done. I just haven’t seen much of that.

Sure, it would be tough to have a freshman councilmember again. Maybe. But right now we’ve basically got an absent one. He’s technically there, but nothing really seems to happen.

And the way you describe it sounds like you’re talking about the same person, An ANC commissioner with some Main Street experience.

There’s a difference between being a leader like Mary Cheh and being a councilmember like Frumin. Cheh understood the job, Frumin never did and never will.

I would consider the progress made to get housing at Chevy Chase to be a significant win. Beyond that, if the mayor chooses to ignore the will of the people in favor of business interests where traffic and parking are concerned, i don't think it is a shortcoming of the Councilmember.

But you make it sound like a councilmember can simply make things happen, irrespective of the Mayor or other councilmembers, and in the real world, that isn't the case. The fact is, Ward 3 has significant NIMBY/Boomer issues that limit what happens there and the politicians are happy to prioritize places where there isn't as much pushback when it comes to development and infrastructure.

Who says housing is needed in Chevy Chase? Only developers. People currently in Ward 3 are able to afford living in Ward 3. So what is he actually? The housing project is for those not yet living in Ward 3. What else has he done for those living in Ward 3?

The DC Comprehensive Plan and the DC Office of Planning both call for more affordable housing in Rock Creek West, which includes Chevy Chase, DC. Sure, the people who can afford to live there live there. What about the people who work there, like teachers at Lafayette or firefighters who are at Engine 31 the check out clerks at the Safeway? They cannot afford to live there and have to commute in fro far flung places to serve the neighborhood. It HELPS the neighborhood to have affordable housing in it and that SERVES the neighborhood.

The developer giveaway is if the city simply rebuilds what is there, paying developers to rebuild and not get anything else of value out of the city owner property. Why not leverage public assets for public good?

The Comp has plan was written pre DOGE and is basically worthless and dangerous to rely on. To the extent DC still needs additional housing, if at all, it should be located in downtown areas.

Downtown areas already has housing. Wards 5, 7 and 8 already have affordable housing. Why should there not be affordable housing in ward 3?

Because there are currently hundreds of vacant units currently for rent or sale in Ward 3. Because DC lost 25,000 federal jobs last year. Because the Ward 3 schools are already comically overcrowded while Wards 5, 7, and 8 have excess capacity and are in danger of closing because of lack of enrollment and the funding that is attached to enrollment. Because GSA is selling excess property in prime locations downtown that needs to be turned into housing or it will become blighted. That good?

Sounds like basic NIMBY talk to me.

Was any of what was written untrue? Or are you just the typical lazy, crass GGWash mouth-breather who defaults to name-calling whenever they are proven incorrect (which is nearly always).

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The entire world is burning because of the demand for oil. If you think it isn’t prudent to build more housing in walkable, billable areas that help reduce our dependence on autocentricty, I don’t know what to tell you.

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Bikeable

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Anonymous wrote:The entire world is burning because of the demand for oil. If you think it isn’t prudent to build more housing in walkable, billable areas that help reduce our dependence on autocentricty, I don’t know what to tell you.

Good news! According to rent.com there are 12,552 units currently available for rent in DC. Now you know what burns a lot of oil? Building unnecessary housing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire world is burning because of the demand for oil. If you think it isn’t prudent to build more housing in walkable, billable areas that help reduce our dependence on autocentricty, I don’t know what to tell you.

Good news! According to rent.com there are 12,552 units currently available for rent in DC. Now you know what burns a lot of oil? Building unnecessary housing.

And most of them are in luxury apartments or in far flung, non-walkable areas. If you increase the supply of housing, you stabilize the rent rates.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire world is burning because of the demand for oil. If you think it isn’t prudent to build more housing in walkable, billable areas that help reduce our dependence on autocentricty, I don’t know what to tell you.

Good news! According to rent.com there are 12,552 units currently available for rent in DC. Now you know what burns a lot of oil? Building unnecessary housing.

And most of them are in luxury apartments or in far flung, non-walkable areas. If you increase the supply of housing, you stabilize the rent rates.

1045 units in 20009
1086 units in 20001
1997 units in 20002
555 in 20005

The urban core of DC is flooded with available rental units. You can walk or bike your heart out. There is no housing shortage.