Who are you voting for in the Dem primary for mayor?

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Yup. If mamdani wins he will be underwater for four years. Unpopular, inexperienced, ineffective, and sleazy. I’m glad I left Manhattan after 50 years (born and raised there).

Feels like a stretch to say Mamdami is sleazier than Cuomo

Any lawmaker who believes a woman getting punched in the face repeatedly by her husband, to the point she is disfigured for life and suffers irreparable brain damage, doesn’t need a police officer to come to her apartment but a social worker, is sleazy. It comes from profound malice and misogyny. I’ll take Cuomo grabbing butts every day of his mayoralty over disdain for victims of violence.

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest issue I have with Zohran is how performative and calculating it all is. Rich trust fund kid moves from manhattan to western queens for the voting base and uses his theater skills to land an easy job as a politician.

True, probably easier to win in Queens than in Manhattan whose political scene is dog-eat-dog. Agree that he is very telegenic and knows how to smile for the camera. How does that qualify him to be Mayor? Maybe he'll make some great tourism videos to lure the tourists and their money back!

Being telegenic and little more seems to be the qualification for most of Trumps cabinet. At least this guy has some ideas

Comparing someone favorably to the bottom of the barrel who fill Trump's Cabinet is not a ringing endorsement.

How would cuomo help NYc?

Do you post this whataboutism nonsense everywhere?

I don’t think you know what that expression means. But I’ll ask again, what are the ideas that Cuomo has that you like?

Um, I do know what it means, "yeah, what about Cuomo?"

Ok what do you like about Cuomo?

Huh days later and no response.

Btw your petition to prevent ZM from winning has a whopping 44 signatures

Thanks tough guy. Call me when the city is in the crapper because it is being run by an inexperienced child. Unlike the Mamdani kool-aid drinkers, the rest of us can admit the many flaws of the people we are "supporting" (and most of us aren't supporting them, we are just choosing the lesser evil). The Mamdani supporters are like Trump supporters - blindly follow and refuse to admit any flaws. There have been some in this thread who this does not apply to and I appreciate and respect their perspective. But the rest get so defensive and are so unrealistic about the realities of running a big, complicated city.

As if you even live in NYC…

I know you are but what am I.

You are demonstrating that the average Mamdani voter is a low class moron who has no understanding of how the real world works. Your repeated dumb comments and continued unwillingness to admit one flaw in his platforms is the height of ignorance and stupidity. It is ironic that those on the far left are behaving in a very Trumpy way. Those who are opposed to Mamdani are very willing to admit the flaws of the other candidates. And acknowledge strengths - I hated deBlasio but will give him credit for UPK. You will not.

Enjoy your rent freeze. I hope it makes you feel special.

What are you going on about? Any sane reasonable person gives De Blasio credit for UPK, as I did above. People like Mamdani, including many educated people. The people who don’t like him primarily are - bigots who hate all Muslims (sound familiar?) and pro Zionist wealthy boomers.


And you’re claim above that people from NYC don’t say ‘NYC’ is just bizarre…

I am the person you are responding to, though I appreciate the support from the other poster. As they noted, there are many of us for whom the religion stuff has very little part of why we don't like him. There are many people who recognize that running a big city is a huge tax and requires some level of maturity and experience which he lacks. His platform of wish list items demonstrates that. The rent freeze and city run grocery stores are just plain dumb. Yet the masses fell for it.

I work for a giant company based in NYC - if we hired someone like Mamdani to run it I would be extremely worried (and again, that has nothing to do with religion, race, etc. - solely based on age, experience and attitude). And our stock price would go to zero overnight. Wall Street is giving Mamdani a chance for now, but if he is actually elected and tries to follow through on this, the city's bond rating will drop. The only saving grace is there are hopefully limitations as to how much of this he can enact.

The NYC comment was not me. I actually agree with you - I don't use the term when speaking by when writing I use it as it is easier than writing "New York City" but I want to differentiate the city from the state.

I wish there was a way to identify us (while maintaining anonymity) so it was more clear who is replying to who.

Finance is an industry that is in secular decline and stagnating in terms of employment. This is why the city fought so hard to attract tech jobs over the last decade and why losing the Amazon campus was a major L.

The city doesn’t need many Citadels to move to FL before it feels excruciating pain. It will happen, it will start with the small 5-10 investment professional shops. Then the big four accountants and law firms and more back office functions moving out of town, too. Eventually, JPM or GS or another BB bank will take the plunge. Their mid levels hate commuting from Cold Spring Harbor and the crappier parts of Greenwich anyway. Your favorite candidate will be on his hands and knees, begging like a dog, for them to stay while he tweets about how much he disdains them. I will celebrate their move if Mamdani wins and the damage they will inflict on his city because voters get the government they deserve.

All the incredible cultural and educational offerings the city extends its residents cannot paper over taxes that cross the line into extortion, a flippant attitude to crime, and rhetoric that irritates (and infuriates some) many important people who allow the city to operate. “What about Cuomo” has been answered many times, he will not unleash termites on New York and lay it to waste.

Keep on attributing horrible motives to those who disagree with you. Most people opposed to Mamdani didn’t serve in the IDF and many are appalled at the conflict. They know Cuomo is a creep and Adams is flawed.

You responded to me and largely agreed with me so I'm assuming your negativity is not directed at me, though your use of pronouns is kind of off. But your support is appreciated and your points are generally really good.

Totally agree. All of these people say "good riddance" to big companies. Not everyone who works at those companies are rich people. They create a ton of second and third order jobs - admins, janitors, security (a rapidly growing expense), spending money at nearby delis, etc. Hating on white collar jobs is incredibly naive.

And you are correct that the banks (and others) are already moving away. Goldman has huge hubs in Dallas and Salt Lake. Citi is in Dallas, Tampa and just announced a lot of jobs in Charlotte. I believe JPM has a huge hub in Texas.

Mamdani and the like are scaring them away. And their tax dollars support all of his wish list programs.

There was a horrible Op/Ed in the Times today about how everyone who opposes Mamdani solely does so because of race or religion. I normally defend the Times more than others but it was pure garbage. There definitely are people who feel this way, particularly with regard to his wishy washy attitude towards Jews. But most of it is that he is an amateur. You can't just skip to the front of the line. He has zero experience in city government, or at least in running a large, complex organization. It isn't easy. And he has shown zero understanding of what it will take. Hopefully he will surround himself with experienced, competent people, but the buck stops with him. And he has no clue. He is like the kid who runs for elementary school president promising ice cream sundaes every day. It doesn't work like that.

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Anonymous wrote:The biggest issue I have with Zohran is how performative and calculating it all is. Rich trust fund kid moves from manhattan to western queens for the voting base and uses his theater skills to land an easy job as a politician.

True, probably easier to win in Queens than in Manhattan whose political scene is dog-eat-dog. Agree that he is very telegenic and knows how to smile for the camera. How does that qualify him to be Mayor? Maybe he'll make some great tourism videos to lure the tourists and their money back!

Being telegenic and little more seems to be the qualification for most of Trumps cabinet. At least this guy has some ideas

Comparing someone favorably to the bottom of the barrel who fill Trump's Cabinet is not a ringing endorsement.

How would cuomo help NYc?

Do you post this whataboutism nonsense everywhere?

I don’t think you know what that expression means. But I’ll ask again, what are the ideas that Cuomo has that you like?

Um, I do know what it means, "yeah, what about Cuomo?"

Ok what do you like about Cuomo?

Huh days later and no response.

Btw your petition to prevent ZM from winning has a whopping 44 signatures

Thanks tough guy. Call me when the city is in the crapper because it is being run by an inexperienced child. Unlike the Mamdani kool-aid drinkers, the rest of us can admit the many flaws of the people we are "supporting" (and most of us aren't supporting them, we are just choosing the lesser evil). The Mamdani supporters are like Trump supporters - blindly follow and refuse to admit any flaws. There have been some in this thread who this does not apply to and I appreciate and respect their perspective. But the rest get so defensive and are so unrealistic about the realities of running a big, complicated city.

As if you even live in NYC…

I know you are but what am I.

You are demonstrating that the average Mamdani voter is a low class moron who has no understanding of how the real world works. Your repeated dumb comments and continued unwillingness to admit one flaw in his platforms is the height of ignorance and stupidity. It is ironic that those on the far left are behaving in a very Trumpy way. Those who are opposed to Mamdani are very willing to admit the flaws of the other candidates. And acknowledge strengths - I hated deBlasio but will give him credit for UPK. You will not.

Enjoy your rent freeze. I hope it makes you feel special.

What are you going on about? Any sane reasonable person gives De Blasio credit for UPK, as I did above. People like Mamdani, including many educated people. The people who don’t like him primarily are - bigots who hate all Muslims (sound familiar?) and pro Zionist wealthy boomers.


And you’re claim above that people from NYC don’t say ‘NYC’ is just bizarre…

I am the person you are responding to, though I appreciate the support from the other poster. As they noted, there are many of us for whom the religion stuff has very little part of why we don't like him. There are many people who recognize that running a big city is a huge tax and requires some level of maturity and experience which he lacks. His platform of wish list items demonstrates that. The rent freeze and city run grocery stores are just plain dumb. Yet the masses fell for it.

I work for a giant company based in NYC - if we hired someone like Mamdani to run it I would be extremely worried (and again, that has nothing to do with religion, race, etc. - solely based on age, experience and attitude). And our stock price would go to zero overnight. Wall Street is giving Mamdani a chance for now, but if he is actually elected and tries to follow through on this, the city's bond rating will drop. The only saving grace is there are hopefully limitations as to how much of this he can enact.

The NYC comment was not me. I actually agree with you - I don't use the term when speaking by when writing I use it as it is easier than writing "New York City" but I want to differentiate the city from the state.

I wish there was a way to identify us (while maintaining anonymity) so it was more clear who is replying to who.

Finance is an industry that is in secular decline and stagnating in terms of employment. This is why the city fought so hard to attract tech jobs over the last decade and why losing the Amazon campus was a major L.

The city doesn’t need many Citadels to move to FL before it feels excruciating pain. It will happen, it will start with the small 5-10 investment professional shops. Then the big four accountants and law firms and more back office functions moving out of town, too. Eventually, JPM or GS or another BB bank will take the plunge. Their mid levels hate commuting from Cold Spring Harbor and the crappier parts of Greenwich anyway. Your favorite candidate will be on his hands and knees, begging like a dog, for them to stay while he tweets about how much he disdains them. I will celebrate their move if Mamdani wins and the damage they will inflict on his city because voters get the government they deserve.

All the incredible cultural and educational offerings the city extends its residents cannot paper over taxes that cross the line into extortion, a flippant attitude to crime, and rhetoric that irritates (and infuriates some) many important people who allow the city to operate. “What about Cuomo” has been answered many times, he will not unleash termites on New York and lay it to waste.

Keep on attributing horrible motives to those who disagree with you. Most people opposed to Mamdani didn’t serve in the IDF and many are appalled at the conflict. They know Cuomo is a creep and Adams is flawed.

You responded to me and largely agreed with me so I'm assuming your negativity is not directed at me, though your use of pronouns is kind of off. But your support is appreciated and your points are generally really good.

Totally agree. All of these people say "good riddance" to big companies. Not everyone who works at those companies are rich people. They create a ton of second and third order jobs - admins, janitors, security (a rapidly growing expense), spending money at nearby delis, etc. Hating on white collar jobs is incredibly naive.

And you are correct that the banks (and others) are already moving away. Goldman has huge hubs in Dallas and Salt Lake. Citi is in Dallas, Tampa and just announced a lot of jobs in Charlotte. I believe JPM has a huge hub in Texas.

Mamdani and the like are scaring them away. And their tax dollars support all of his wish list programs.

There was a horrible Op/Ed in the Times today about how everyone who opposes Mamdani solely does so because of race or religion. I normally defend the Times more than others but it was pure garbage. There definitely are people who feel this way, particularly with regard to his wishy washy attitude towards Jews. But most of it is that he is an amateur. You can't just skip to the front of the line. He has zero experience in city government, or at least in running a large, complex organization. It isn't easy. And he has shown zero understanding of what it will take. Hopefully he will surround himself with experienced, competent people, but the buck stops with him. And he has no clue. He is like the kid who runs for elementary school president promising ice cream sundaes every day. It doesn't work like that.

Sorry for the confusion, yes I agree with you and you raise great points.

I do not believe Mamdani will have old hands assisting him who would have the necessary decades of experience to make the trains run on time. He says he “may” consider keeping Tisch. Has anyone asked Tisch if she wants to be associated with this fast-moving train wreck? The mayoralty is a strange role in politics where being a novice (I won’t say outsider, given Mamdani’s education, parents, and current role make him an insider, not that I’m holding any of it against him other than it shows he is cosplaying a working class millennial) is virtually guaranteed to end in disaster. Adams has much better ideas and policies than de blasio (with 1-2 major exceptions that have been discussed here). He’s only marginally better, if at all, because the powers that be ran away from him and considered him uncouth, he couldn’t enact anything he wanted once he was considered toxic.

The rent restricted multifamily market was cratering before Mamdani announced his candidacy. Bankruptcies, foreclosures, tossing the keys to the banks with an equity wipeout. Investments will be in free fall if he wins. Market rate investments will only be saved because of a massive base of renters in their 20s (domestic and international) and developers will stop new projects, limiting competition and inventory. I can’t wait to see Mamdani’s face when he learns you cannot force a developer to build at a loss or force landlords to continue managing properties when their operating expenses balloon with paltry allowable rent increases.

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Of every voter in the city opposed to Mamdani, low single digits oppose him due to his faith. If he came out as a moderate Democrat and magically turned 50 and experienced, every single one of the Cuomo and Adams voters would give him a hard look. There are Muslim democrats and republicans elected to office all across the country.