Disappointment

[Anonymous]

Anyone who thinks UNC is a safety for OOS has zero clue about the college process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks UNC is a safety for OOS has zero clue about the college process.

When did OP say it was a safety?

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Anonymous wrote: It was definitely very competitive this year...

You really are a poor listener & so divorced from reality. After all this feedback you go "it was very competitive this year!"

No. it is very competitive EVERY YEAR.

Your kid is an average kid for these schools. There are many other really good kids out there too, some even extraordinary. Versus it being in the bag, your child would have been very very lucky to get in, same for every other kid.

Lmao god you guys are so self-absorbed, OP is allowed to let out their (rightful) frustrations without being attacked left and right. If a perfect GPA, 1570 SAT, and 5s in 14 APs is "average" to you (yes, even in a more competitive area) then you need to get your head examined. I feel bad for some of your kids, this place can be such a toxic cesspool.

This thread is not as long as it is just because people are interested in one parent’s disappointment. There are lots of similar case studies in this forum, and lessons to be learned for those facing the admissions process in the future. OP provided stats and results, which of course invites discussion, plus opinions about those results, which invites alternative opinions. It’s all well and good, and kind of the point of the forum.

As far as toxic cesspool goes, it was OP who uncharitably speculated about less worthy classmates. Don’t want to be attacked? Don’t invite it.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous] If a perfect GPA, 1570 SAT, and 5s in 14 APs is "average" to you (yes, even in a more competitive area) then you need to get your head examined.[/quote]
I believe you are far more deserving of that honor for your denial of reality.

In the NY Marathon out of 50000 finishers only 92 get prizes. You want to give succour to someone in the 49908 who thinks they had it in the bag, and the NY Marathon was very difficult this year, and "worse, many others who were weaker got the prizes". I don't believe in such mollycoddling.

Prospective engineers who don't understand basic probability should probably be doing something else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: It was definitely very competitive this year...

You really are a poor listener & so divorced from reality. After all this feedback you go "it was very competitive this year!"

No. it is very competitive EVERY YEAR.

Your kid is an average kid for these schools. There are many other really good kids out there too, some even extraordinary. Versus it being in the bag, your child would have been very very lucky to get in, same for every other kid.

Lmao god you guys are so self-absorbed, OP is allowed to let out their (rightful) frustrations without being attacked left and right. If a perfect GPA, 1570 SAT, and 5s in 14 APs is "average" to you (yes, even in a more competitive area) then you need to get your head examined. I feel bad for some of your kids, this place can be such a toxic cesspool.

This thread is not as long as it is just because people are interested in one parent’s disappointment. There are lots of similar case studies in this forum, and lessons to be learned for those facing the admissions process in the future. OP provided stats and results, which of course invites discussion, plus opinions about those results, which invites alternative opinions. It’s all well and good, and kind of the point of the forum.

As far as toxic cesspool goes, it was OP who uncharitably speculated about less worthy classmates. Don’t want to be attacked? Don’t invite it.

It's interesting that OP didn't say anything about DD's race. After the posters saw her stats and ECs, multiple posters almost immediately pointed out that DD is an Asian. That is interesting.

Two take-aways:

1. The discriminatory practice goes on after the affirmative action is held unconstitutional. Asian applicants are disadvantaged in the college process, even one year after the Harvard case.

2. Asian applicants' EC sucks the big time so much so anyone could tell by their ECs without their racial information. Research/Non-profit/stem competition got to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid last year had similar results. Only one reach acceptance. And lots of rejections and waitlists.

This is amazing!! Our CCO told us to assume that you will get into zero reaches. ZERO. The “only one reach” attitude may be the problem.

[Anonymous]

Frankly, I think it’s wrong that our current college admissions process is becoming like Korea, China or India where children lose their childhoods spending 10 hour days cramming to score high enough or pressured to abandon all ethics and cheat whenever possible to get a coveted seat at the few respected institutions. Whether you win the lottery or not, you have lost more than you gained along the way.

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Anonymous wrote:This has to be fake. People cannot be this naive.

+100
How utterly ridiculous - she "thought she had it in the bag."

Right? Who thinks like this?

In her position, how would you not think that you had at least VT + UNC CH in the bag? I'm obviously not referring to the Ivies/higher-ranking schools...

She was accepted at VT. Chapel Hill has an 8 percent acceptance rate for OOS. It also sounds like she is at a NoVa public with grade inflation.

+1000 UNC in the the bag? OOS? OP is delusional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Entitlement much? How this idea that all high stats automatically gets into to reach 10% schools. Same conversation year after year.

How was UVA, VT, or UNC CH a reach for her?

OP you are digging in here instead of reflecting on choices you made. RD to UVA from NOVA is a reach. UNC CH is a reach for every single non-resident of NC regardless of stats bc by charter they accept only a tiny % of OOS students. As others have said, why didn’t she apply more broadly, to other stong engineering schools? Why so insanely heavy on impossible reach schools? Why assume she should be accepted into those? Why didn’t she apply EA to a bunch?

Regardless, VT for example is a great acceptance and your student is not too good for that school.

I feel for any student that is disappointed. It’s a tough process. There is a chance that her application just didn’t help AOs know who she is as a person, beyond her stats and ECs that aligned with academic interests and not reflective of other parts of her character and personality. Maybe. But also as others have said, your job is to help them manage that and learn to pivot in a positive manner. And there is something about what I’m hearing from you in your responses that speaks of entitlement. Judging others, blaming others. This kind of attitude is not setting anyone up for success or happiness. Your daughter has a lot to give back. She’s got great options. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: It was definitely very competitive this year...

You really are a poor listener & so divorced from reality. After all this feedback you go "it was very competitive this year!"

No. it is very competitive EVERY YEAR.

Your kid is an average kid for these schools. There are many other really good kids out there too, some even extraordinary. Versus it being in the bag, your child would have been very very lucky to get in, same for every other kid.

Lmao god you guys are so self-absorbed, OP is allowed to let out their (rightful) frustrations without being attacked left and right. If a perfect GPA, 1570 SAT, and 5s in 14 APs is "average" to you (yes, even in a more competitive area) then you need to get your head examined. I feel bad for some of your kids, this place can be such a toxic cesspool.

This thread is not as long as it is just because people are interested in one parent’s disappointment. There are lots of similar case studies in this forum, and lessons to be learned for those facing the admissions process in the future. OP provided stats and results, which of course invites discussion, plus opinions about those results, which invites alternative opinions. It’s all well and good, and kind of the point of the forum.

As far as toxic cesspool goes, it was OP who uncharitably speculated about less worthy classmates. Don’t want to be attacked? Don’t invite it.

It's interesting that OP didn't say anything about DD's race. After the posters saw her stats and ECs, multiple posters almost immediately pointed out that DD is an Asian. That is interesting.

Two take-aways:

1. The discriminatory practice goes on after the affirmative action is held unconstitutional. Asian applicants are disadvantaged in the college process, even one year after the Harvard case.

2. Asian applicants' EC sucks the big time so much so anyone could tell by their ECs without their racial information. Research/Non-profit/stem competition got to go.

OP hasn’t confirmed her DD is asian, but I immediately assumed she was as well. STEM major, no sports participation, the type of ECs, ridiculous number of APs (no one needs so many), etc. It fits the stereotype.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: It was definitely very competitive this year...

You really are a poor listener & so divorced from reality. After all this feedback you go "it was very competitive this year!"

No. it is very competitive EVERY YEAR.

Your kid is an average kid for these schools. There are many other really good kids out there too, some even extraordinary. Versus it being in the bag, your child would have been very very lucky to get in, same for every other kid.

Lmao god you guys are so self-absorbed, OP is allowed to let out their (rightful) frustrations without being attacked left and right. If a perfect GPA, 1570 SAT, and 5s in 14 APs is "average" to you (yes, even in a more competitive area) then you need to get your head examined. I feel bad for some of your kids, this place can be such a toxic cesspool.

This thread is not as long as it is just because people are interested in one parent’s disappointment. There are lots of similar case studies in this forum, and lessons to be learned for those facing the admissions process in the future. OP provided stats and results, which of course invites discussion, plus opinions about those results, which invites alternative opinions. It’s all well and good, and kind of the point of the forum.

As far as toxic cesspool goes, it was OP who uncharitably speculated about less worthy classmates. Don’t want to be attacked? Don’t invite it.

It's interesting that OP didn't say anything about DD's race. After the posters saw her stats and ECs, multiple posters almost immediately pointed out that DD is an Asian. That is interesting.

Two take-aways:

1. The discriminatory practice goes on after the affirmative action is held unconstitutional. Asian applicants are disadvantaged in the college process, even one year after the Harvard case.

2. Asian applicants' EC sucks the big time so much so anyone could tell by their ECs without their racial information. Research/Non-profit/stem competition got to go.

OP's post seems so fake and designed to stir up more hate against affirmative action which was banned. So you can't conclude premise 1 for these reasons:

1. OP never has explained how much they earn and how much financial aid they need. This year especially all things being clos to equal a full pay family is getting in over a family needing financial aid. And it might have been an Asian international student who took the spot not a POC and/or poor American. Around 16% of the freshman class in 23-24 was made up of international students. JHU labels these students nonresidents and lists: Nonresident - A person who is not a citizen or national of the United States and who is in this country on a student visa or temporary basis and does not have the right to remain indefinitely.

2. Someone who is so invested in college most certainly knows the difference between Early Action and Early Decision. OP first says it was early action to JHU then when confronted say it was Early Decision, then clarifies it actually was Early Decision, second round. Meanwhile over a third of the class of 29 at JHU that was just accepted applied Early Decision 1.

3. I am skeptical that a student took 14 AP tests in 9th-11th grade since that is the only way you would know that you scored a five on all 14 tests. But if a student really did there comes a point that college admissions just see it as pointless. Do you really need to take AP World History and self-study AP Human Geography and AP European History just to rack up the number of AP's.

4. You can only compare college acceptances with equivalent majors. So yeah if you applied for computer science or anything engineering like OP claims her daughter applied BME and didn't get in but someone applied to a humanities major and got in with a lower GPA, no duh! And if you are girl going for CS or engineering or business you have an edge or a boy for humanities and even biology. It doesn't mean you are being discriminated against.

And for the second premise:
Totally true too many applicants have the same EC: started non-profit, play cello, piano or violin, volunteer at a hospital, stem competition, did research, robotics, chess, play individual sport like tennis, swim, or golf. Then way too many of applicants with these EC want STEM majors.

Colleges want some kids who were on leadership/ASB/Student government, were in yearbook, drama or other non weighted classes that contributed to their high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who finds HS founders of non-profits to be borderline insulting? I worked in the non-profit world, so did dh. These are serious places and it takes as much (if not more) work than a business to be a really successful one. I know bc we now own a successful business. It's not some vanity project to be started by a 17 year old. So annoying. Change my mind.

Absolutely this. Along with “research.” Come on. It’s a rote, meaningless checking of boxes. When so many applicants are showing up with awesome profiles you don’t need one more thing that can be “achieved” by all the others as well. You need a personality that catches the attention of someone reading your file, an unusual skill, an/or whatever profile combination the admissions office is looking for at that moment in time.

I find this more insulting than starting a non-profit or research. So if you can spin a tale, or pay someone to spin it for you, that is better?

I feel for you OP (and DC), we may be in the same boat next year. DD very similar stats and looking for the same schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks UNC is a safety for OOS has zero clue about the college process.

Unpopular opinion on here, I suppose, but it shouldn't take a degree in game theory to figure out where to apply for college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's tough, and I can see why you're upset. Having said that, Pitt is the clear choice. It's an amazing school, and your daughter would thrive there in the biomed program.

99% of Asian student applicants face this every admission cycle including top TJ Asian students and other top Asian students.

Even after the Harvard decision, AA and DEI still persists at most of the top schools under different names and titles. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you don't need to keep putting up with people here being jackasses. College Confidential is actually filled with people willing to help, and with moderators that help keep people in line; you should go check it out if you're tired of people being weird here.

Help with what?