. Your kid had 4.0 and took 14 APs and got 5s on all of them? There are more kids like that at UVA than W&M. Regardless, OPs daughter should have been accepted to UVA. |
When I read about students with 3s in APs and SATs in the 1300s who used TO to get in to Duke and Stanford, it would make me sad too. They probably won't do well and the AOs know it. |
If Op’s dd has this kind of stats and got rejected from places like from UVA and Duke- it’s truly sad. |
Look at the CDS. Sigh. |
CDS doesn’t have this information but I see why you are confused. CDS reports that 90% of UVA admitted students had GPA of 4.0. It is a weighted GPA though. An AP class counts as 5 towards the weighted GPA in FCPS. It is nearly impossible to take 14 APs and have a perfect unweighted 4.0 |
OP, if you are still reading, my DC from a magnet had higher stats than your kid and was rejected almost everywhere they applied to - CMU, UIUC, GATech. Waitlisted at Mich. Granted, they are a CS major.
In the end, DC ended up at the state flagship, and you know what... they are happy there. They got a great internship with good pay where DC is at now for pretty much all of the summer, and they are having a blast. DC just finished their second year and is a senior, thanks to those generous and numerous AP credits. They are doing great academically - 4.0 GPA so far, and there are definitely some very smart peers there. They will graduate in 3 years with two degrees. They also got merit aid, so we will be able to give them $20K, and a car when they graduate. All together, they will have $40K cash by 21. DC is also going to do a +1 masters. So, 4 years, 2 degrees for < $140K from a T50. Not too shabby. So, tell your DC that there are pros to going in state - they will probably not struggle too much academically and be surrounded by other high achievers; there are lots of smart kids who end up at the state flagships due to cost, or being shut out of the T10 like your and my kid. The money you save can go towards their roth IRA or buy them a car, or gift them cash (check gift tax rule). DC was not excited about going off to college until the week of when we started to go dorm shopping. They love living on their own, and being independent. They said they are very glad to have ended up at the state flagship. Things really worked out for DC. It will be ok. |
oops ^ 4 years, 3 degrees |
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+100. State flagships can also offer more social and extracurricular opportunities and a great in-state/regional network. |
Ugh. This kid should be at a flagship unless they needed the merit aid.
But happens all the time. It’s almost always bc of the major. They aren’t as competitive for that major, but likely would have been for another. |
Then post admission rates by major so kids know what to expect. I doubt it is all about the major but a bit more transparency will be helpful |
Agree, but often you can ask when you go to info sessions? Here's a tip on how to examine the data online. You can do this for every school. Just research! UVA Engineering's enrollment numbers are listed online: https://engineering.virginia.edu/undergraduat...lment-and-graduates# From that link, it looks like applying to Materials Science—engineering, Engineering Science, or " Engineering—undeclared" is the way to go if you must apply to engineering. To dig in further, go to the CDS. If you look at Section J of the school's CDS, you can see which colleges/majors are "oversubscribed" - have way too many people (it's the list of graduates who list their primary major) vs. those that are undersubscribed. https://ira.virginia.edu/sites/g/files/jsddwu...DS_2024-2025_508.pdf UVA: Engineering 10.1% Business: 8.9% CS: 7.7% Biological sciences: 6% Physical sciences: 3.9% Math: 3.3% History: 2.7& English 2.3% Foreign lang. 1.4% |
Math if you must be STEM. Or engineering-undeclared.
Got it. |
Biomedical engineering is a brutal admit just about everywhere. The programs are usually much smaller than mechanical engineering. |
That is not particularly useful information without knowing how many applied to the major |