Disappointment

Anonymous
OP you don't need to keep putting up with people here being jackasses. College Confidential is actually filled with people willing to help, and with moderators that help keep people in line; you should go check it out if you're tired of people being weird here.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This has to be fake. People cannot be this naive.

+1

Why does this seem "fake" to you? The cycle was very harsh this year, and I think that my DD and I have every right to feel disappointed.[/quote

I’ve posted multiple times supportively but please, it is not just this year. Sigh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m so sorry. Her stats were incredible, and I understand the high expectations.

You mention being confused - I think many parents on this board either hired professional college counselors or did a lot of research themselves (many here listen to college podcasts or read College Confidential). Based on that knowledge, which we improperly assume everyone has, it sounds like you/she mis-categorized many schools. This is the reason for some of the snarkier feedback you are getting.

Also she got Monroe? And maybe Pitt Honors? Both of those shift the balance, and I’m surprised you didn’t put that in your first post.

A few other things - she’s pre-med, but I’m not seeing much activity other other people/other students? The people piece is important for pre-med. And you say she really liked CMU, but hadn’t actually been to Pittsburgh? How could she really like it? The rank? The web site?

I do wish her well, and I hope you can both come to acceptance soon.

Thank you! I definitely did research myself but we didn't feel the need to hire a professional college counselor - We thought it was a waste of money, and I'm now I'm really hoping that we made the right choice in regards to that. I forgot to mention a few things in the OP by accident (such as her being a National Merit Finalist, I guess that would fall under ECs/awards?). DD is pre-med (wants to go to med school but not entirely sure which pathway) and has always had a passion for engineering. DD really likes the double major option in CMU for BME that would allow her to also study more traditional forms of engineering.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP, you and your DD have a right to be disappointed. My high stats DC is too when we see low SAT students getting in to the top 5 schools (1390 SAT). This is happening and should be investigated.


Yes, DD said that one of her classmates that got into Brown (RD) had around a 1370 SAT and much lower GPA. ECs + essays must have been phenomenal...


Unless the kid was hooked in some way that you were not aware of this did not happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve posted multiple times supportively but please, it is not just this year. Sigh.

Idk, maybe it's just my perception then, but I remember previous years for family friends' kids seeming a lot less stressful. But then again, I guess it's all just a draw of luck with T20 schools.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP, you and your DD have a right to be disappointed. My high stats DC is too when we see low SAT students getting in to the top 5 schools (1390 SAT). This is happening and should be investigated.


Yes, DD said that one of her classmates that got into Brown (RD) had around a 1370 SAT and much lower GPA. ECs + essays must have been phenomenal...


Unless the kid was hooked in some way that you were not aware of this did not happen.

This is all that my daughter told me. Idk the student or any hooks they might have had.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you and your DD have a right to be disappointed. My high stats DC is too when we see low SAT students getting in to the top 5 schools (1390 SAT). This is happening and should be investigated.


Yes, DD said that one of her classmates that got into Brown (RD) had around a 1370 SAT and much lower GPA. ECs + essays must have been phenomenal...


Don't take SAT too seriously, you need spike to get in Ivies. If you are FGLI, that's spike, SAT 1240 can get you in top Lac.


1240 doesn’t get anyone into a top LAC.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m so sorry. Her stats were incredible, and I understand the high expectations.

You mention being confused - I think many parents on this board either hired professional college counselors or did a lot of research themselves (many here listen to college podcasts or read College Confidential). Based on that knowledge, which we improperly assume everyone has, it sounds like you/she mis-categorized many schools. This is the reason for some of the snarkier feedback you are getting.

Also she got Monroe? And maybe Pitt Honors? Both of those shift the balance, and I’m surprised you didn’t put that in your first post.

A few other things - she’s pre-med, but I’m not seeing much activity other other people/other students? The people piece is important for pre-med. And you say she really liked CMU, but hadn’t actually been to Pittsburgh? How could she really like it? The rank? The web site?

I do wish her well, and I hope you can both come to acceptance soon.

Thank you! I definitely did research myself but we didn't feel the need to hire a professional college counselor - We thought it was a waste of money, and I'm now I'm really hoping that we made the right choice in regards to that. I forgot to mention a few things in the OP by accident (such as her being a National Merit Finalist, I guess that would fall under ECs/awards?). DD is pre-med (wants to go to med school but not entirely sure which pathway) and has always had a passion for engineering. DD really likes the double major option in CMU for BME that would allow her to also study more traditional forms of engineering.


It sounds like you/she were not realistic. These schools have only so many slots and there are many many kids similar to her.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote: It was definitely very competitive this year...

You really are a poor listener & so divorced from reality. After all this feedback you go "it was very competitive this year!"

No. it is very competitive EVERY YEAR.

Your kid is an average kid for these schools. There are many other really good kids out there too, some even extraordinary. Versus it being in the bag, your child would have been very very lucky to get in, same for every other kid.

Lmao god you guys are so self-absorbed, OP is allowed to let out their (rightful) frustrations without being attacked left and right. If a perfect GPA, 1570 SAT, and 5s in 14 APs is "average" to you (yes, even in a more competitive area) then you need to get your head examined. I feel bad for some of your kids, this place can be such a toxic cesspool.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You said “it was more of a safety.”

Yes, I said it was more of a safety than a reach, which would make it a target. Sorry if that wasn't clear.


Did you find the entire college admissions process overwhelming? A lot of uncertainty in these posts. A college counselor probably would have helped.


We mainly relied on DD's own research and school counselor.


You cannot complain if you put little effort into it. She got into great schools. You are the problem.


You guys are piranhas. It is totally understandable for OP and her DD to be disappointed based on her stats and efforts. If we are at at the place now where you are saying what mom did is 'little effort' because they didn't spend on a college counselor, then this process is totally screwed and you are a contributor.

I am not saying anyone is entitled to a spot, but I am saying that this dd is entitled to be disappointed.





There are tons and tons of kids with these stat's and that's the problem. She got into great schools but she didn't stand out for the other ones. Her EC's are volunteering only. 200 hospital hours is good but many kids have 200 volunteer hours on top of other EC's.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you and your DD have a right to be disappointed. My high stats DC is too when we see low SAT students getting in to the top 5 schools (1390 SAT). This is happening and should be investigated.


Yes, DD said that one of her classmates that got into Brown (RD) had around a 1370 SAT and much lower GPA. ECs + essays must have been phenomenal...


Unless the kid was hooked in some way that you were not aware of this did not happen.

This is all that my daughter told me. Idk the student or any hooks they might have had.


Understood but only 2% of SAT scores were under 1400 and they were almost guaranteed to be hooked.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you and your DD have a right to be disappointed. My high stats DC is too when we see low SAT students getting in to the top 5 schools (1390 SAT). This is happening and should be investigated.


Yes, DD said that one of her classmates that got into Brown (RD) had around a 1370 SAT and much lower GPA. ECs + essays must have been phenomenal...


Unless the kid was hooked in some way that you were not aware of this did not happen.

This is all that my daughter told me. Idk the student or any hooks they might have had.


Understood but only 2% of SAT scores were under 1400 and they were almost guaranteed to be hooked.

Yeah, then he was most likely hooked. DD told me in a moment of frustration and didn't mention anything else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: It was definitely very competitive this year...

You really are a poor listener & so divorced from reality. After all this feedback you go "it was very competitive this year!"

No. it is very competitive EVERY YEAR.

Your kid is an average kid for these schools. There are many other really good kids out there too, some even extraordinary. Versus it being in the bag, your child would have been very very lucky to get in, same for every other kid.

Lmao god you guys are so self-absorbed, OP is allowed to let out their (rightful) frustrations without being attacked left and right. If a perfect GPA, 1570 SAT, and 5s in 14 APs is "average" to you (yes, even in a more competitive area) then you need to get your head examined. I feel bad for some of your kids, this place can be such a toxic cesspool.


Frustration, yes. Disappointment, sure. Feelings are feelings.

But rightful? No one has a right to be disappointed or is entitled to be disappointed because they didn’t get into a particular school. Especially schools with extremely low admit rates. No doubt OP’s DD worked hard but so did a lot of other kids. Working hard and doing well does not guarantee anything. It doesn’t give anyone the right to anything.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: It was definitely very competitive this year...

You really are a poor listener & so divorced from reality. After all this feedback you go "it was very competitive this year!"

No. it is very competitive EVERY YEAR.

Your kid is an average kid for these schools. There are many other really good kids out there too, some even extraordinary. Versus it being in the bag, your child would have been very very lucky to get in, same for every other kid.

Lmao god you guys are so self-absorbed, OP is allowed to let out their (rightful) frustrations without being attacked left and right. If a perfect GPA, 1570 SAT, and 5s in 14 APs is "average" to you (yes, even in a more competitive area) then you need to get your head examined. I feel bad for some of your kids, this place can be such a toxic cesspool.


Frustration, yes. Disappointment, sure. Feelings are feelings.

But rightful? No one has a right to be disappointed or is entitled to be disappointed because they didn’t get into a particular school. Especially schools with extremely low admit rates. No doubt OP’s DD worked hard but so did a lot of other kids. Working hard and doing well does not guarantee anything. It doesn’t give anyone the right to anything.

Of course it doesn't, but some of you like PP acting like these are "average" stats (even for NoVa) are insane.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you and your DD have a right to be disappointed. My high stats DC is too when we see low SAT students getting in to the top 5 schools (1390 SAT). This is happening and should be investigated.


Yes, DD said that one of her classmates that got into Brown (RD) had around a 1370 SAT and much lower GPA. ECs + essays must have been phenomenal...


Brown was test optional this year. Many kids with 1300 could have gotten in. That is what test optional does. OP should have applied next year when TO goes away for Brown if wanted the 1500 to matter. This year it wouldn’t have been the bump to get in.
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