Anyone touring top schools and finding then all to be dumpy and unimpressive?

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Anonymous wrote:For high-achieving students who don't want to suffer in a cramped dungeon with no A/C, Alabama's honors dorms are the nicest college housing I've ever seen, bar none. They're more like luxury apartments. Freshmen can live in them, too.

Ha! I googled their dorms to see what you are talking about. I wanted to see pictures. I look at pictures for Ridgecrest South (listed as an honors dorm). in one of the pictures, the student has the Maryland flag on the wall.

A couple years back, there was a legendary (or infamous depending on your perspective) DCUMer whose son was in the honors program at Alabama, allegedly on a full ride. The poster claimed their kid had high stats and got into more competitive schools but chose Alabama for the full ride, luxury dorms (which they usually described in detail), and attractive girls (although I believe the term the poster preferred was "coeds"). They signed off every post with "Roll Tide!" Just a hilarious poster. That kid should be at least an upperclassman if not an alum by now.

I remember that poster. I thought it was some dad working through his middle age crisis with his fictional dream sequence.

The dorms at Alabama are top notch. Put other schools to shame on how luxury they are in comparison.

I encourage you all to send your lovely children to SEC schools where the dorms are luxurious. We'll be fine without A/C or an indoor lazy river in New England.

Why so snarky about people wanting their kids in a nice environment for, someone has to say it, NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR? It really isn't a flex to say your expensive private school with billions in the bank can't provide well for its students.

Would you prefer the money go to the dorms or to financial aid for underprivileged and academic resources?

And please don’t answer with the presupposition that the endowment amount is in an account generating 4.65% in dividends and interest, because that is not how it works.


/sorry about my quote error, I hate when others make that mistake. Mea culpa.

I'd hope the university has the finances to do both. Though, if it cannot, I think bringing in more underprivileged students is not going to help the college's situation-it is expensive to create and maintain resources for first-generation students, so I wouldn't be against choosing the dorms. Not every college has to have a social mission to uplift the nation's poor.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a rising senior and have been doing the rounds of many top 25 schools (universities and colleges). We started with safety schools last year and then junior year grades came back so this summer we've been touring some top schools. My kid is trying to figure out an ED.
We have a rising junior as well so we have a couple of kids with us.

The more of these schools we tour, the less impressed I am. They're sort of all a bit falling apart, poorly maintained, with pretty odd students (tour guides, summer students and especially touring students alike--don't jump all over for for saying this--being brutally honest), little sense of community, same-old, same-old stuff about study-abroad, etc. Many have very large class sizes, etc.

I feel like we're (kid and parent alike) are supposed to love these schools and want to pay $90K for them and my kids can't find one they really like. I very, very, very much feel like we're being sold a product that we're supposed to want to buy because of prestige and name but when we see the product up close it doesn't look great and I feel like a sheep lining up to say "yes sir. let me put my kid through mental/emotional twister for a 5% chance of being admitted to your school and then I will gladly pay you $90K for the honor. Yes sir." It just feels... gross. Maybe not gross but yucky. My kids are like, "well I didn't really like this or that here but I could probably make it work." They too feel the pressure to LIKE these places. The Almighty XYZ or ABC school! It's supposed to be their dream!

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I am looking at the T25 list and wondering how many you have seen and which ones you mean? Ours were focused on privates in this group, we toured many of them, and found none to be worn down, unkempt , or anything else. The biggest we toured was Uva and they do have large classes, but none of the T15/ivies have large classes: they pride themselves on seminars and smaller classes , even more than when I went. 200 + lectures were common back then and neither of my kids have had more than one, and they are halfway through, and yes stem. And mine have had mostly single-room /suite style , AC in ALL dorms on campus, and yes for all freshman. The dorms have some mold—-but so does Virginia Tech, UF, UNc, SMU CNU UGA, and roaches in the southern ones. Mice in the northeast ones. Not sure where the colleges are that have no mold in any dorm, guaranteed singles for all, no roaches or mice ever, and no class over 50 ever? That is not realistic based on multiple coworkers and friends sending their kids to various schools elite and not and mentioning mold and roaches on and off.

As to the mental toll of applying : do not do it if the kids hated the schools on tour. Many kids and parents love the schools and tours and are happy to pay. Find ones your kid likes.

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Anonymous wrote:For high-achieving students who don't want to suffer in a cramped dungeon with no A/C, Alabama's honors dorms are the nicest college housing I've ever seen, bar none. They're more like luxury apartments. Freshmen can live in them, too.

Ha! I googled their dorms to see what you are talking about. I wanted to see pictures. I look at pictures for Ridgecrest South (listed as an honors dorm). in one of the pictures, the student has the Maryland flag on the wall.

A couple years back, there was a legendary (or infamous depending on your perspective) DCUMer whose son was in the honors program at Alabama, allegedly on a full ride. The poster claimed their kid had high stats and got into more competitive schools but chose Alabama for the full ride, luxury dorms (which they usually described in detail), and attractive girls (although I believe the term the poster preferred was "coeds"). They signed off every post with "Roll Tide!" Just a hilarious poster. That kid should be at least an upperclassman if not an alum by now.

I remember that poster. I thought it was some dad working through his middle age crisis with his fictional dream sequence.

The dorms at Alabama are top notch. Put other schools to shame on how luxury they are in comparison.

I encourage you all to send your lovely children to SEC schools where the dorms are luxurious. We'll be fine without A/C or an indoor lazy river in New England.

Why so snarky about people wanting their kids in a nice environment for, someone has to say it, NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR? It really isn't a flex to say your expensive private school with billions in the bank can't provide well for its students.

Would you prefer the money go to the dorms or to financial aid for underprivileged and academic resources?

And please don’t answer with the presupposition that the endowment amount is in an account generating 4.65% in dividends and interest, because that is not how it works.


/sorry about my quote error, I hate when others make that mistake. Mea culpa.

I'd hope the university has the finances to do both. Though, if it cannot, I think bringing in more underprivileged students is not going to help the college's situation-it is expensive to create and maintain resources for first-generation students, so I wouldn't be against choosing the dorms. Not every college has to have a social mission to uplift the nation's poor.

See you did exactly what I asked you not do, assume that the university has the resources to do both.

So I will re-phrase the question:

Would you prefer even ONE DOLLAR go to dorms that could otherwise go to financial aid?

Please answer this.

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Anonymous wrote:For high-achieving students who don't want to suffer in a cramped dungeon with no A/C, Alabama's honors dorms are the nicest college housing I've ever seen, bar none. They're more like luxury apartments. Freshmen can live in them, too.

Ha! I googled their dorms to see what you are talking about. I wanted to see pictures. I look at pictures for Ridgecrest South (listed as an honors dorm). in one of the pictures, the student has the Maryland flag on the wall.

A couple years back, there was a legendary (or infamous depending on your perspective) DCUMer whose son was in the honors program at Alabama, allegedly on a full ride. The poster claimed their kid had high stats and got into more competitive schools but chose Alabama for the full ride, luxury dorms (which they usually described in detail), and attractive girls (although I believe the term the poster preferred was "coeds"). They signed off every post with "Roll Tide!" Just a hilarious poster. That kid should be at least an upperclassman if not an alum by now.

I remember that poster. I thought it was some dad working through his middle age crisis with his fictional dream sequence.

The dorms at Alabama are top notch. Put other schools to shame on how luxury they are in comparison.

I encourage you all to send your lovely children to SEC schools where the dorms are luxurious. We'll be fine without A/C or an indoor lazy river in New England.

Why so snarky about people wanting their kids in a nice environment for, someone has to say it, NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR? It really isn't a flex to say your expensive private school with billions in the bank can't provide well for its students.

Would you prefer the money go to the dorms or to financial aid for underprivileged and academic resources?

And please don’t answer with the presupposition that the endowment amount is in an account generating 4.65% in dividends and interest, because that is not how it works.


/sorry about my quote error, I hate when others make that mistake. Mea culpa.

I'd hope the university has the finances to do both. Though, if it cannot, I think bringing in more underprivileged students is not going to help the college's situation-it is expensive to create and maintain resources for first-generation students, so I wouldn't be against choosing the dorms. Not every college has to have a social mission to uplift the nation's poor.

See you did exactly what I asked you not do, assume that the university has the resources to do both.

So I will re-phrase the question:

Would you prefer even ONE DOLLAR go to dorms that could otherwise go to financial aid?

Please answer this.

I can see you don't read. I clearly stated that, since the university can't, it should go to dorms.
If your dorms are good, then move on to attracting a less financially privileged class all you want.

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Anonymous wrote:For high-achieving students who don't want to suffer in a cramped dungeon with no A/C, Alabama's honors dorms are the nicest college housing I've ever seen, bar none. They're more like luxury apartments. Freshmen can live in them, too.

Ha! I googled their dorms to see what you are talking about. I wanted to see pictures. I look at pictures for Ridgecrest South (listed as an honors dorm). in one of the pictures, the student has the Maryland flag on the wall.

A couple years back, there was a legendary (or infamous depending on your perspective) DCUMer whose son was in the honors program at Alabama, allegedly on a full ride. The poster claimed their kid had high stats and got into more competitive schools but chose Alabama for the full ride, luxury dorms (which they usually described in detail), and attractive girls (although I believe the term the poster preferred was "coeds"). They signed off every post with "Roll Tide!" Just a hilarious poster. That kid should be at least an upperclassman if not an alum by now.

I remember that poster. I thought it was some dad working through his middle age crisis with his fictional dream sequence.

The dorms at Alabama are top notch. Put other schools to shame on how luxury they are in comparison.

I encourage you all to send your lovely children to SEC schools where the dorms are luxurious. We'll be fine without A/C or an indoor lazy river in New England.

Why so snarky about people wanting their kids in a nice environment for, someone has to say it, NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR? It really isn't a flex to say your expensive private school with billions in the bank can't provide well for its students.

Would you prefer the money go to the dorms or to financial aid for underprivileged and academic resources?

And please don’t answer with the presupposition that the endowment amount is in an account generating 4.65% in dividends and interest, because that is not how it works.


/sorry about my quote error, I hate when others make that mistake. Mea culpa.

I'd hope the university has the finances to do both. Though, if it cannot, I think bringing in more underprivileged students is not going to help the college's situation-it is expensive to create and maintain resources for first-generation students, so I wouldn't be against choosing the dorms. Not every college has to have a social mission to uplift the nation's poor.

See you did exactly what I asked you not do, assume that the university has the resources to do both.

So I will re-phrase the question:

Would you prefer even ONE DOLLAR go to dorms that could otherwise go to financial aid?

Please answer this.

new poster: of course dollars should go to dorms and financial aid. It is not an either/or, though. And of course that means that some financial aid may be less. Northeastern spends less per student than Boston’s generous public school system. At NEU’s cost, that’s shameful.

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Anonymous wrote:For high-achieving students who don't want to suffer in a cramped dungeon with no A/C, Alabama's honors dorms are the nicest college housing I've ever seen, bar none. They're more like luxury apartments. Freshmen can live in them, too.

Ha! I googled their dorms to see what you are talking about. I wanted to see pictures. I look at pictures for Ridgecrest South (listed as an honors dorm). in one of the pictures, the student has the Maryland flag on the wall.

A couple years back, there was a legendary (or infamous depending on your perspective) DCUMer whose son was in the honors program at Alabama, allegedly on a full ride. The poster claimed their kid had high stats and got into more competitive schools but chose Alabama for the full ride, luxury dorms (which they usually described in detail), and attractive girls (although I believe the term the poster preferred was "coeds"). They signed off every post with "Roll Tide!" Just a hilarious poster. That kid should be at least an upperclassman if not an alum by now.

I remember that poster. I thought it was some dad working through his middle age crisis with his fictional dream sequence.

The dorms at Alabama are top notch. Put other schools to shame on how luxury they are in comparison.

I encourage you all to send your lovely children to SEC schools where the dorms are luxurious. We'll be fine without A/C or an indoor lazy river in New England.

Why so snarky about people wanting their kids in a nice environment for, someone has to say it, NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR? It really isn't a flex to say your expensive private school with billions in the bank can't provide well for its students.

Would you prefer the money go to the dorms or to financial aid for underprivileged and academic resources?

And please don’t answer with the presupposition that the endowment amount is in an account generating 4.65% in dividends and interest, because that is not how it works.


/sorry about my quote error, I hate when others make that mistake. Mea culpa.

I'd hope the university has the finances to do both. Though, if it cannot, I think bringing in more underprivileged students is not going to help the college's situation-it is expensive to create and maintain resources for first-generation students, so I wouldn't be against choosing the dorms. Not every college has to have a social mission to uplift the nation's poor.

See you did exactly what I asked you not do, assume that the university has the resources to do both.

So I will re-phrase the question:

Would you prefer even ONE DOLLAR go to dorms that could otherwise go to financial aid?

Please answer this.

new poster: of course dollars should go to dorms and financial aid. It is not an either/or, though. And of course that means that some financial aid may be less. Northeastern spends less per student than Boston’s generous public school system. At NEU’s cost, that’s shameful.

But NEU also has to spend so much more on things that a school just doesn't. They have to spend higher for every non-adjunct working professional, research, their experiential learning programs, much more variety in dining halls, and many more administrative wings. I don't think PP understand how much it costs to have good financial aid and that you shouldn't just offer it willy-nilly if it means the rest of your school services can collapse.

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Anonymous wrote:We toured almost every T15(all but stanford and Caltech) and found them all great, and they all emphasized small classes. All my kids attend a different one of these schools and find them intellectually stimulating with less than 1/4 of their classes over 40, including stem. We never toured any school outside of T25 that was not W&M or VT or W&L, so we did not see the big schools with the pretty pools and fancy dorms we have seen online. We were looking for academics and found the only ugly/dumpy one to be MIT, yet loved the intellectual vibe of our quirky tour guide. similar-vibe tour guides were WM Hopkins and Brown, but did not select the final schools based on love of tour. People do not pick T15s for beauty, they pick them for academics: faculty, peers, smallish classes. To each his own.

Many T15s have large classes, especially in the first two years.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a rising senior and have been doing the rounds of many top 25 schools (universities and colleges). We started with safety schools last year and then junior year grades came back so this summer we've been touring some top schools. My kid is trying to figure out an ED.
We have a rising junior as well so we have a couple of kids with us.

The more of these schools we tour, the less impressed I am. They're sort of all a bit falling apart, poorly maintained, with pretty odd students (tour guides, summer students and especially touring students alike--don't jump all over for for saying this--being brutally honest), little sense of community, same-old, same-old stuff about study-abroad, etc. Many have very large class sizes, etc.

I feel like we're (kid and parent alike) are supposed to love these schools and want to pay $90K for them and my kids can't find one they really like. I very, very, very much feel like we're being sold a product that we're supposed to want to buy because of prestige and name but when we see the product up close it doesn't look great and I feel like a sheep lining up to say "yes sir. let me put my kid through mental/emotional twister for a 5% chance of being admitted to your school and then I will gladly pay you $90K for the honor. Yes sir." It just feels... gross. Maybe not gross but yucky. My kids are like, "well I didn't really like this or that here but I could probably make it work." They too feel the pressure to LIKE these places. The Almighty XYZ or ABC school! It's supposed to be their dream!

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I am looking at the T25 list and wondering how many you have seen and which ones you mean? Ours were focused on privates in this group, we toured many of them, and found none to be worn down, unkempt , or anything else. The biggest we toured was Uva and they do have large classes, but none of the T15/ivies have large classes: they pride themselves on seminars and smaller classes , even more than when I went. 200 + lectures were common back then and neither of my kids have had more than one, and they are halfway through, and yes stem. And mine have had mostly single-room /suite style , AC in ALL dorms on campus, and yes for all freshman. The dorms have some mold—-but so does Virginia Tech, UF, UNc, SMU CNU UGA, and roaches in the southern ones. Mice in the northeast ones. Not sure where the colleges are that have no mold in any dorm, guaranteed singles for all, no roaches or mice ever, and no class over 50 ever? That is not realistic based on multiple coworkers and friends sending their kids to various schools elite and not and mentioning mold and roaches on and off.

As to the mental toll of applying : do not do it if the kids hated the schools on tour. Many kids and parents love the schools and tours and are happy to pay. Find ones your kid likes.

Penn and Princeton absolutely have large classes- are they 500 students no, but anything over 35 students won’t have real discussion and anything over 100 students is a large lecture, whether it is 101 or 500.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a rising senior and have been doing the rounds of many top 25 schools (universities and colleges). We started with safety schools last year and then junior year grades came back so this summer we've been touring some top schools. My kid is trying to figure out an ED.
We have a rising junior as well so we have a couple of kids with us.

The more of these schools we tour, the less impressed I am. They're sort of all a bit falling apart, poorly maintained, with pretty odd students (tour guides, summer students and especially touring students alike--don't jump all over for for saying this--being brutally honest), little sense of community, same-old, same-old stuff about study-abroad, etc. Many have very large class sizes, etc.

I feel like we're (kid and parent alike) are supposed to love these schools and want to pay $90K for them and my kids can't find one they really like. I very, very, very much feel like we're being sold a product that we're supposed to want to buy because of prestige and name but when we see the product up close it doesn't look great and I feel like a sheep lining up to say "yes sir. let me put my kid through mental/emotional twister for a 5% chance of being admitted to your school and then I will gladly pay you $90K for the honor. Yes sir." It just feels... gross. Maybe not gross but yucky. My kids are like, "well I didn't really like this or that here but I could probably make it work." They too feel the pressure to LIKE these places. The Almighty XYZ or ABC school! It's supposed to be their dream!

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I am looking at the T25 list and wondering how many you have seen and which ones you mean? Ours were focused on privates in this group, we toured many of them, and found none to be worn down, unkempt , or anything else. The biggest we toured was Uva and they do have large classes, but none of the T15/ivies have large classes: they pride themselves on seminars and smaller classes , even more than when I went. 200 + lectures were common back then and neither of my kids have had more than one, and they are halfway through, and yes stem. And mine have had mostly single-room /suite style , AC in ALL dorms on campus, and yes for all freshman. The dorms have some mold—-but so does Virginia Tech, UF, UNc, SMU CNU UGA, and roaches in the southern ones. Mice in the northeast ones. Not sure where the colleges are that have no mold in any dorm, guaranteed singles for all, no roaches or mice ever, and no class over 50 ever? That is not realistic based on multiple coworkers and friends sending their kids to various schools elite and not and mentioning mold and roaches on and off.

As to the mental toll of applying : do not do it if the kids hated the schools on tour. Many kids and parents love the schools and tours and are happy to pay. Find ones your kid likes.

Penn and Princeton absolutely have large classes- are they 500 students no, but anything over 35 students won’t have real discussion and anything over 100 students is a large lecture, whether it is 101 or 500.

They are only not 500+ people, because they can't accommodate class space for them. The demand is much higher than the seat count: https://www.thedp.com/article/2018/11/upenn-engineering-computer-science-course-waitlist-penn

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Half the kids at these schools get zero financial aid. So for 100k, I think the dorms should be mold-free

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Anonymous wrote:Half the kids at these schools get zero financial aid. So for 100k, I think the dorms should be mold-free

+2 I vote for dorm upgrades over more financial aid 100%. We are full pay and find it irritating that a $85,000 price tag does not provide a healthy, clean living environment.

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Anonymous wrote:For high-achieving students who don't want to suffer in a cramped dungeon with no A/C, Alabama's honors dorms are the nicest college housing I've ever seen, bar none. They're more like luxury apartments. Freshmen can live in them, too.

Ha! I googled their dorms to see what you are talking about. I wanted to see pictures. I look at pictures for Ridgecrest South (listed as an honors dorm). in one of the pictures, the student has the Maryland flag on the wall.

A couple years back, there was a legendary (or infamous depending on your perspective) DCUMer whose son was in the honors program at Alabama, allegedly on a full ride. The poster claimed their kid had high stats and got into more competitive schools but chose Alabama for the full ride, luxury dorms (which they usually described in detail), and attractive girls (although I believe the term the poster preferred was "coeds"). They signed off every post with "Roll Tide!" Just a hilarious poster. That kid should be at least an upperclassman if not an alum by now.

I remember that poster. I thought it was some dad working through his middle age crisis with his fictional dream sequence.

The dorms at Alabama are top notch. Put other schools to shame on how luxury they are in comparison.

I encourage you all to send your lovely children to SEC schools where the dorms are luxurious. We'll be fine without A/C or an indoor lazy river in New England.

Why so snarky about people wanting their kids in a nice environment for, someone has to say it, NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR? It really isn't a flex to say your expensive private school with billions in the bank can't provide well for its students.

Would you prefer the money go to the dorms or to financial aid for underprivileged and academic resources?

And please don’t answer with the presupposition that the endowment amount is in an account generating 4.65% in dividends and interest, because that is not how it works.


/sorry about my quote error, I hate when others make that mistake. Mea culpa.

I'd hope the university has the finances to do both. Though, if it cannot, I think bringing in more underprivileged students is not going to help the college's situation-it is expensive to create and maintain resources for first-generation students, so I wouldn't be against choosing the dorms. Not every college has to have a social mission to uplift the nation's poor.

See you did exactly what I asked you not do, assume that the university has the resources to do both.

So I will re-phrase the question:

Would you prefer even ONE DOLLAR go to dorms that could otherwise go to financial aid?

Please answer this.

I can see you don't read. I clearly stated that, since the university can't, it should go to dorms.
If your dorms are good, then move on to attracting a less financially privileged class all you want.

So funny! I suggest, in the future, before you attack someone else’s reading comprehension you double check your own.

But you made it clear you’d rather Larla have a pretty hallway than some working class kid being able to attend at all.

I am happy and proud to be opposed to that position. So are the people who run the elite colleges, apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:Half the kids at these schools get zero financial aid. So for 100k, I think the dorms should be mold-free

+2 I vote for dorm upgrades over more financial aid 100%. We are full pay and find it irritating that a $85,000 price tag does not provide a healthy, clean living environment.

No one is making you pay.

Send your kid to high point then. Steakhouse and a lazy river! There are choices for everyone, make the choice that is right for you. Did you not see the dorms before you applied?

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Anonymous wrote:For high-achieving students who don't want to suffer in a cramped dungeon with no A/C, Alabama's honors dorms are the nicest college housing I've ever seen, bar none. They're more like luxury apartments. Freshmen can live in them, too.

Ha! I googled their dorms to see what you are talking about. I wanted to see pictures. I look at pictures for Ridgecrest South (listed as an honors dorm). in one of the pictures, the student has the Maryland flag on the wall.

A couple years back, there was a legendary (or infamous depending on your perspective) DCUMer whose son was in the honors program at Alabama, allegedly on a full ride. The poster claimed their kid had high stats and got into more competitive schools but chose Alabama for the full ride, luxury dorms (which they usually described in detail), and attractive girls (although I believe the term the poster preferred was "coeds"). They signed off every post with "Roll Tide!" Just a hilarious poster. That kid should be at least an upperclassman if not an alum by now.

I remember that poster. I thought it was some dad working through his middle age crisis with his fictional dream sequence.

The dorms at Alabama are top notch. Put other schools to shame on how luxury they are in comparison.

I encourage you all to send your lovely children to SEC schools where the dorms are luxurious. We'll be fine without A/C or an indoor lazy river in New England.

Why so snarky about people wanting their kids in a nice environment for, someone has to say it, NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR? It really isn't a flex to say your expensive private school with billions in the bank can't provide well for its students.

Would you prefer the money go to the dorms or to financial aid for underprivileged and academic resources?

And please don’t answer with the presupposition that the endowment amount is in an account generating 4.65% in dividends and interest, because that is not how it works.


/sorry about my quote error, I hate when others make that mistake. Mea culpa.

I'd hope the university has the finances to do both. Though, if it cannot, I think bringing in more underprivileged students is not going to help the college's situation-it is expensive to create and maintain resources for first-generation students, so I wouldn't be against choosing the dorms. Not every college has to have a social mission to uplift the nation's poor.

See you did exactly what I asked you not do, assume that the university has the resources to do both.

So I will re-phrase the question:

Would you prefer even ONE DOLLAR go to dorms that could otherwise go to financial aid?

Please answer this.

I can see you don't read. I clearly stated that, since the university can't, it should go to dorms.
If your dorms are good, then move on to attracting a less financially privileged class all you want.

So funny! I suggest, in the future, before you attack someone else’s reading comprehension you double check your own.

But you made it clear you’d rather Larla have a pretty hallway than some working class kid being able to attend at all.

I am happy and proud to be opposed to that position. So are the people who run the elite colleges, apparently.

I'm glad you can posture for internet points I guess, but I am from a first-generation, low income background. Yes, I benefitted from immense financial aid, but if i was living in moldy dorms/unsafe living conditions, the health costs would've put me in a much worse position, and I saw a peer who was poor and experienced these problems fall behind quickly in college.

I'm not some self-hater. I loved my first-gen, low income community and participated in on-campus clubs and cohort programs for people with my background. When colleges bring in a ton of fgli students but fail to give them the resources needed, they do much more poorly than those rich kids paying $85k (who my kids will be). I don't believe in half-assing progressive initiatives to look good.

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Anonymous wrote:Half the kids at these schools get zero financial aid. So for 100k, I think the dorms should be mold-free

+2 I vote for dorm upgrades over more financial aid 100%. We are full pay and find it irritating that a $85,000 price tag does not provide a healthy, clean living environment.

No one is making you pay.

Send your kid to high point then. Steakhouse and a lazy river! There are choices for everyone, make the choice that is right for you. Did you not see the dorms before you applied?

Can you please read the thread? There is a real, visible middle ground between steakhouses and collapsing dorms. I actually think the comment you responded to presented it-healthy, clean living environment. That is not something that requires High Point.