Petition: Later MCPS school start times

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Why are you here then. We don't care what private does, this is MCPS.

Fun fact, I have one of each. On the same sports team.

Transportation arguments are valid, but there are solutions.

My argument is that getting out of school after 3 is not a huge scheduling problem for the remainder of the day, and big public systems other places have figured it out (CA).

For all of those saying “how is there time”…
*public school kid has 3-330 extra time with which they typically sit on phone
Practice 4-630
Dinner 645-715
715-1015 - homework, leisure, hygiene
1030 bed (average) - this is late for one of mine and early for the other who is just wired as a night owl

Private school kid gets up to 10h sleep, while public could get 7-8h (not terrible if it’s 11-630, but this is a kid who has trouble sleeping before midnight and needs 8+h)

That's not how my kid's day looks. You forgot, when kids are in music and sports and also in school activities, not to mention private lessons too. Or, kids who are working.

And, what about parents who need their older kids to watch the younger ones.

Private school kids aren't getting more sleep.

If your kid has trouble sleeping, get a sleep study.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

Not the PP, but how exactly does this punish other kids? All get to sleep later and no one would be cutting activities. You do realize other places start school later their kids are fine.

First off, they may not sleep later. And, how do you propose it works. Sports, for example outside of MCPS all share facilities and there is only so much time/space. As it is the HS kids swim at 3 PM (and it's a mad rush to get them to the pool when school does not let out till 3:30 PM). Mine is in multiple activities outside and inside school and there would be no way to fit it all in without them going to bed much later, which then defeats the purpose. They aren't getting more sleep.

Y'all don't read. Read the science. Oh I forgot, that would be too much parenting on your part.

As a parent, I enforce bedtime. See how that works. So, my kid goes to bed an hour later as everything is pushed back and only sleeps in an extra 30 mintures. They lose sleep.

That would make your child an outlier.

What do you think will happen if things are pushed back an hour to accommodate you not wanting to parent your kids? Sports, after school activities, work, etc. all get pushed back an hour, so kids get home and hour later, then homework, dinner, shower, and then bed, all an hour later? So, instead of a kid going to bed at 11, they will now go to bed at 12. That's not healthy.

First, showers are in the morning the way God intended.

Second, IDGAF about sports and after-school activities; they are optional, while school is obligatory. Things required by the law should not be done in ways that obviously damage the health of people required to do them. Starts before 8:30 are in this category. What you do about your travel soccer team issues is your problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

Not the PP, but how exactly does this punish other kids? All get to sleep later and no one would be cutting activities. You do realize other places start school later their kids are fine.

First off, they may not sleep later. And, how do you propose it works. Sports, for example outside of MCPS all share facilities and there is only so much time/space. As it is the HS kids swim at 3 PM (and it's a mad rush to get them to the pool when school does not let out till 3:30 PM). Mine is in multiple activities outside and inside school and there would be no way to fit it all in without them going to bed much later, which then defeats the purpose. They aren't getting more sleep.

Y'all don't read. Read the science. Oh I forgot, that would be too much parenting on your part.

As a parent, I enforce bedtime. See how that works. So, my kid goes to bed an hour later as everything is pushed back and only sleeps in an extra 30 mintures. They lose sleep.

That would make your child an outlier.

What do you think will happen if things are pushed back an hour to accommodate you not wanting to parent your kids? Sports, after school activities, work, etc. all get pushed back an hour, so kids get home and hour later, then homework, dinner, shower, and then bed, all an hour later? So, instead of a kid going to bed at 11, they will now go to bed at 12. That's not healthy.

First, showers are in the morning the way God intended.

Second, IDGAF about sports and after-school activities; they are optional, while school is obligatory. Things required by the law should not be done in ways that obviously damage the health of people required to do them. Starts before 8:30 are in this category. What you do about your travel soccer team issues is your problem.

Some people like to shower at night. So, no they aren't, especially when you only have one bathroom.

You may not care about sports and activities, but many of our kids do and colleges do. Why wouldn't you want your kids to explore their interests and talents? Many of our kids manage just fine, so I don't care that your kids refuse to go to bed, you refuse to parent them and you are too selfish to have them in any activities as well because you cannot be inconvenienced by your kids. You want what is easy for you, not best.

Your kids not getting enough sleep is your problem.

My kids high level sports and other activities are not a problem. You are the one complaining, not me. So, grow up, parent and get your kids to bed.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

Not the PP, but how exactly does this punish other kids? All get to sleep later and no one would be cutting activities. You do realize other places start school later their kids are fine.

First off, they may not sleep later. And, how do you propose it works. Sports, for example outside of MCPS all share facilities and there is only so much time/space. As it is the HS kids swim at 3 PM (and it's a mad rush to get them to the pool when school does not let out till 3:30 PM). Mine is in multiple activities outside and inside school and there would be no way to fit it all in without them going to bed much later, which then defeats the purpose. They aren't getting more sleep.

Y'all don't read. Read the science. Oh I forgot, that would be too much parenting on your part.

As a parent, I enforce bedtime. See how that works. So, my kid goes to bed an hour later as everything is pushed back and only sleeps in an extra 30 mintures. They lose sleep.

That would make your child an outlier.

What do you think will happen if things are pushed back an hour to accommodate you not wanting to parent your kids? Sports, after school activities, work, etc. all get pushed back an hour, so kids get home and hour later, then homework, dinner, shower, and then bed, all an hour later? So, instead of a kid going to bed at 11, they will now go to bed at 12. That's not healthy.

First, showers are in the morning the way God intended.

Second, IDGAF about sports and after-school activities; they are optional, while school is obligatory. Things required by the law should not be done in ways that obviously damage the health of people required to do them. Starts before 8:30 are in this category. What you do about your travel soccer team issues is your problem.

Some people like to shower at night. So, no they aren't, especially when you only have one bathroom.

You may not care about sports and activities, but many of our kids do and colleges do. Why wouldn't you want your kids to explore their interests and talents? Many of our kids manage just fine, so I don't care that your kids refuse to go to bed, you refuse to parent them and you are too selfish to have them in any activities as well because you cannot be inconvenienced by your kids. You want what is easy for you, not best.

Your kids not getting enough sleep is your problem.

My kids high level sports and other activities are not a problem. You are the one complaining, not me. So, grow up, parent and get your kids to bed.

Ah! The “high level” sports. Y’all are fairly transparent.

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(You’re going to lose on this, by the way. It may not be while your kids are in school, but this dark o’clock start business is ending.)

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Anonymous wrote:(You’re going to lose on this, by the way. It may not be while your kids are in school, but this dark o’clock start business is ending.)

DP. There's not much of a risk of that while there continues to be no plausible solution to opening later.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

Not the PP, but how exactly does this punish other kids? All get to sleep later and no one would be cutting activities. You do realize other places start school later their kids are fine.

First off, they may not sleep later. And, how do you propose it works. Sports, for example outside of MCPS all share facilities and there is only so much time/space. As it is the HS kids swim at 3 PM (and it's a mad rush to get them to the pool when school does not let out till 3:30 PM). Mine is in multiple activities outside and inside school and there would be no way to fit it all in without them going to bed much later, which then defeats the purpose. They aren't getting more sleep.

Y'all don't read. Read the science. Oh I forgot, that would be too much parenting on your part.

As a parent, I enforce bedtime. See how that works. So, my kid goes to bed an hour later as everything is pushed back and only sleeps in an extra 30 mintures. They lose sleep.

That would make your child an outlier.

What do you think will happen if things are pushed back an hour to accommodate you not wanting to parent your kids? Sports, after school activities, work, etc. all get pushed back an hour, so kids get home and hour later, then homework, dinner, shower, and then bed, all an hour later? So, instead of a kid going to bed at 11, they will now go to bed at 12. That's not healthy.

If they can sleep an hour later in the morning, there’s no issue with going to bed an hour later. If they’re more tired at midnight, they’ll fall asleep faster. If school were pushed back by half an hour or even an hour, my kids would go to bed at the same time they do now and they’d get more sleep.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

Not the PP, but how exactly does this punish other kids? All get to sleep later and no one would be cutting activities. You do realize other places start school later their kids are fine.

First off, they may not sleep later. And, how do you propose it works. Sports, for example outside of MCPS all share facilities and there is only so much time/space. As it is the HS kids swim at 3 PM (and it's a mad rush to get them to the pool when school does not let out till 3:30 PM). Mine is in multiple activities outside and inside school and there would be no way to fit it all in without them going to bed much later, which then defeats the purpose. They aren't getting more sleep.

Y'all don't read. Read the science. Oh I forgot, that would be too much parenting on your part.

As a parent, I enforce bedtime. See how that works. So, my kid goes to bed an hour later as everything is pushed back and only sleeps in an extra 30 mintures. They lose sleep.

That would make your child an outlier.

What do you think will happen if things are pushed back an hour to accommodate you not wanting to parent your kids? Sports, after school activities, work, etc. all get pushed back an hour, so kids get home and hour later, then homework, dinner, shower, and then bed, all an hour later? So, instead of a kid going to bed at 11, they will now go to bed at 12. That's not healthy.

First, showers are in the morning the way God intended.

Second, IDGAF about sports and after-school activities; they are optional, while school is obligatory. Things required by the law should not be done in ways that obviously damage the health of people required to do them. Starts before 8:30 are in this category. What you do about your travel soccer team issues is your problem.

Some people like to shower at night. So, no they aren't, especially when you only have one bathroom.

You may not care about sports and activities, but many of our kids do and colleges do. Why wouldn't you want your kids to explore their interests and talents? Many of our kids manage just fine, so I don't care that your kids refuse to go to bed, you refuse to parent them and you are too selfish to have them in any activities as well because you cannot be inconvenienced by your kids. You want what is easy for you, not best.

Your kids not getting enough sleep is your problem.

My kids high level sports and other activities are not a problem. You are the one complaining, not me. So, grow up, parent and get your kids to bed.

Ah! The “high level” sports. Y’all are fairly transparent.

Ah! The self-absorbed parent who doesn't support their child's interests. Its all about you, not your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Sure, if you're willing to give MCPS enough money to pay for twice as manybuses and drivers.

many school systems have HS start last so the adolescent brain, with its shifted circadian rhythm, starts later, too.

And many kids are fine with the earlier start time. Here’s an idea. Enforce bedtime. Be a parent.

I’m not sure why you can’t grasp this, but their circadian rhythm prevents them from falling asleep early. They can start laying in bed at whatever time they want, but they won’t necessarily sleep. You can’t overcome biology by ordering someone who isn’t sleepy to sleep.

Stop making excuses. If they are tired they will sleep. Or, they can nap when they get home. You should like a lazy parent.

I’m sorry you don’t comprehend the situation.

Comprehend what? Your kids are spoiled and refuse to go to bed and you prefer to not parent and find ways to help the. By making up nonsense and punish the rest of or kid who are in activities, working, etc which yours are not so no excuse why they cannot go to bed. Be a parent and enforce bedtime.

Not the PP, but how exactly does this punish other kids? All get to sleep later and no one would be cutting activities. You do realize other places start school later their kids are fine.

First off, they may not sleep later. And, how do you propose it works. Sports, for example outside of MCPS all share facilities and there is only so much time/space. As it is the HS kids swim at 3 PM (and it's a mad rush to get them to the pool when school does not let out till 3:30 PM). Mine is in multiple activities outside and inside school and there would be no way to fit it all in without them going to bed much later, which then defeats the purpose. They aren't getting more sleep.

Y'all don't read. Read the science. Oh I forgot, that would be too much parenting on your part.

As a parent, I enforce bedtime. See how that works. So, my kid goes to bed an hour later as everything is pushed back and only sleeps in an extra 30 mintures. They lose sleep.

That would make your child an outlier.

What do you think will happen if things are pushed back an hour to accommodate you not wanting to parent your kids? Sports, after school activities, work, etc. all get pushed back an hour, so kids get home and hour later, then homework, dinner, shower, and then bed, all an hour later? So, instead of a kid going to bed at 11, they will now go to bed at 12. That's not healthy.

If they can sleep an hour later in the morning, there’s no issue with going to bed an hour later. If they’re more tired at midnight, they’ll fall asleep faster. If school were pushed back by half an hour or even an hour, my kids would go to bed at the same time they do now and they’d get more sleep.

Except when they have to get up for sports and other things in the morning so they get up regardless of what time school starts. How is it healthy for kids to go to bed at midnight? Your argument makes no sense. It's not an hour later, it would be 45 minutes later at best. Your kids might go to bed at the same time as yours are not doing as much as other kids, but some of ours would just go to bed later which isn't helpful at all. And, at that point they are exhausted to do homework as it's so late.

If your kids need more sleep, have them go to bed earlier.

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This is such a pointless hill to die on. Let’s fix lazy curricula. Let’s fix crime in the schools. Let’s fix the growing teacher shortage. Let’s fix the over-reliance on technology.

Pushing back start times isn’t going to make any meaningful difference. It simply isn’t. If parents are worried about their child’s sleep, then they should enforce bedtimes and limit technology usage. That would make a far bigger impact than imposing a later start time.

[Anonymous]

With redistricting on the table if more kids end up on a bus with longer commutes won’t this problem just worsen?

[Anonymous]

I just signed the petition. I am a ES parent but I know that HS will be here soon enough

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Anonymous wrote:With redistricting on the table if more kids end up on a bus with longer commutes won’t this problem just worsen?

Boundary changes will likely result in fewer kids on the bus with shorter trips.

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Anonymous wrote:(You’re going to lose on this, by the way. It may not be while your kids are in school, but this dark o’clock start business is ending.)

HOW will this dark o'clock start business (which I agree is a problem) end?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/info/belltimesworkgroup/Rpt2013BellTimesWorkGrpReport.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:I think the down county consortium should test this approach and use a later start time at one of the DCC high schools. The density of ES is high enough here that you might even be able to free up the right number of busses by give people a choice between a late vs early ES. This would let MCPS test the idea without forcing anyone into it. If enough people want it, you can grow the number of schools doing it and if it causes issues or no one actually wants to live with what a later hs start time means, they can discontinue it.

How about HS 9:00a-3:45p. Is that really too late to start practice for athletic teens?

Our swim starts at 3:45, so yes, slight issue. And, there are morning practices as well. Our school swim practices start either early in the AM or 3 PM. Not including sports and other activities for our kids. Plus homework. That 45 minutes after school is a big deal. And, many parents need older kids to watch younger kids after school. How would that work when there are not enough after school spots as it is?

My kid goes to (private) HS 845-315, it works just fine. Other school systems and communities have figured this out.

Why are you here then. We don't care what private does, this is MCPS.

Fun fact, I have one of each. On the same sports team.

Transportation arguments are valid, but there are solutions.

My argument is that getting out of school after 3 is not a huge scheduling problem for the remainder of the day, and big public systems other places have figured it out (CA).

For all of those saying “how is there time”…
*public school kid has 3-330 extra time with which they typically sit on phone
Practice 4-630
Dinner 645-715
715-1015 - homework, leisure, hygiene
1030 bed (average) - this is late for one of mine and early for the other who is just wired as a night owl

Private school kid gets up to 10h sleep, while public could get 7-8h (not terrible if it’s 11-630, but this is a kid who has trouble sleeping before midnight and needs 8+h)

That's not how my kid's day looks. You forgot, when kids are in music and sports and also in school activities, not to mention private lessons too. Or, kids who are working.

And, what about parents who need their older kids to watch the younger ones.

Private school kids aren't getting more sleep.

If your kid has trouble sleeping, get a sleep study.

Sounds like these kids are doing too much and are over scheduled! Everyone needs to make choices.

My kid doesn't have trouble sleeping, they have a common teen body clock and would naturally sleep midnight - 10a if that was how the world worked. Obviously, it doesn't, so we do all the things to do our best.

But again, my argument is the only difference in my kids' after school schedule is 3-3:30, where one is finishing class/commuting and the other has discretionary time.