Biden’s latest Poll numbers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most of the people hanging their vote on what's happening in Gaza have NO clue about the politics, the history, nothing. It's purely political talking points

Fine.

But if you're going to rely on that to hand Trump the office of POTUS again, when he was an unmitigated disaster. And embarrassment. Unhinged. And has been a traitorous turd since 2020, undermining elections, trying to steal GA, inciting the 1/6 riot . . . well, there is no hope for you. Or for this country. We had a good run, I suppose, but it will be all over as we have known it. And for what? Because people are using a situation they know very little about, if nothing, and where there is no easy solution to the situation which has existed for generations. That's not very smart. But apparently, Americans are once again proving they are not.

1st paragraph is dead wrong. People hate *because* they see the evil. If it were still 1982 (or whatever year Genocide Joe thinks it is!) he could get away with this chicken hawk routine. He can’t do it now!

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If both Trump and Biden get nominated, but have minimal popularity, then a write-in or third party candidate might actually have a shot. We can hope!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If both Trump and Biden get nominated, but have minimal popularity, then a write-in or third party candidate might actually have a shot. We can hope!

Trump and Biden are 95% locks to be the nominees and they are very, very, very unpopular so there you go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If both Trump and Biden get nominated, but have minimal popularity, then a write-in or third party candidate might actually have a shot. We can hope!

That could very well be someone like Kanye West. Be careful what you wish for!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If both Trump and Biden get nominated, but have minimal popularity, then a write-in or third party candidate might actually have a shot. We can hope!

There is zero chance of that happening. Name a single politician or duo (P/VP) who could actually capture electoral college votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If both Trump and Biden get nominated, but have minimal popularity, then a write-in or third party candidate might actually have a shot. We can hope!

There is zero chance of that happening. Name a single politician or duo (P/VP) who could actually capture electoral college votes.

In a normal election I'd agree with you but with candidates as historically weak as Trump and Biden... ehhh, maybe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the people hanging their vote on what's happening in Gaza have NO clue about the politics, the history, nothing. It's purely political talking points

Fine.

But if you're going to rely on that to hand Trump the office of POTUS again, when he was an unmitigated disaster. And embarrassment. Unhinged. And has been a traitorous turd since 2020, undermining elections, trying to steal GA, inciting the 1/6 riot . . . well, there is no hope for you. Or for this country. We had a good run, I suppose, but it will be all over as we have known it. And for what? Because people are using a situation they know very little about, if nothing, and where there is no easy solution to the situation which has existed for generations. That's not very smart. But apparently, Americans are once again proving they are not.

1st paragraph is dead wrong. People hate *because* they see the evil. If it were still 1982 (or whatever year Genocide Joe thinks it is!) he could get away with this chicken hawk routine. He can’t do it now!

But they excuse what Hamas did on Oct 7 and are still holding hostages. So where do you want to draw the line?

Also, what do you expect Joe to do? He isn't the Israeli PM.

Do you think ANYONE in the GOP would be better for the Palestinians? Really?

I find it really astounding that there is still this game going on here about bashing Biden over the Palestine situation and making Trump out to be the winning alternative. The ties between pro-Palestine activists and other groups are far more likely to be BLM and Antifa. Does anyone really think trying to conjure an alliance or for that matter any kind of relationship between MAGA, BLM and Antifa would ever hold water? Never in a million miles.

It's a wild-desperate reach by pro-Palestinians. The reality is that while you might not like Biden, the MAGA faction is even more hostile to your cause than the left is. All the pro-Palestinians are doing with their strategy is to turn a fail into an even bigger fail.

Here’s a better question: why has Biden worked so hard to offend his base AND promote a Trump-style (and Trump-supporting) regime in Israel?

If you’re not taking that up with Biden aka discussing it publicly, you deserve to lose. The Democratic Party clearly has very serious problems of its own and has for decades. This big a f-up by the putative response to Trump AND the browbeating of offended voters shows your true stripes. Having it out in public about Biden (and the party) is almost certainly worth it, except if you’re are very old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If both Trump and Biden get nominated, but have minimal popularity, then a write-in or third party candidate might actually have a shot. We can hope!

There is zero chance of that happening. Name a single politician or duo (P/VP) who could actually capture electoral college votes.

In a normal election I'd agree with you but with candidates as historically weak as Trump and Biden... ehhh, maybe

You didn’t name anyone. Noted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the people hanging their vote on what's happening in Gaza have NO clue about the politics, the history, nothing. It's purely political talking points

Fine.

But if you're going to rely on that to hand Trump the office of POTUS again, when he was an unmitigated disaster. And embarrassment. Unhinged. And has been a traitorous turd since 2020, undermining elections, trying to steal GA, inciting the 1/6 riot . . . well, there is no hope for you. Or for this country. We had a good run, I suppose, but it will be all over as we have known it. And for what? Because people are using a situation they know very little about, if nothing, and where there is no easy solution to the situation which has existed for generations. That's not very smart. But apparently, Americans are once again proving they are not.

1st paragraph is dead wrong. People hate *because* they see the evil. If it were still 1982 (or whatever year Genocide Joe thinks it is!) he could get away with this chicken hawk routine. He can’t do it now!

But they excuse what Hamas did on Oct 7 and are still holding hostages. So where do you want to draw the line?

Also, what do you expect Joe to do? He isn't the Israeli PM.

Do you think ANYONE in the GOP would be better for the Palestinians? Really?

I find it really astounding that there is still this game going on here about bashing Biden over the Palestine situation and making Trump out to be the winning alternative. The ties between pro-Palestine activists and other groups are far more likely to be BLM and Antifa. Does anyone really think trying to conjure an alliance or for that matter any kind of relationship between MAGA, BLM and Antifa would ever hold water? Never in a million miles.

It's a wild-desperate reach by pro-Palestinians. The reality is that while you might not like Biden, the MAGA faction is even more hostile to your cause than the left is. All the pro-Palestinians are doing with their strategy is to turn a fail into an even bigger fail.

Here’s a better question: why has Biden worked so hard to offend his base AND promote a Trump-style (and Trump-supporting) regime in Israel?

If you’re not taking that up with Biden aka discussing it publicly, you deserve to lose. The Democratic Party clearly has very serious problems of its own and has for decades. This big a f-up by the putative response to Trump AND the browbeating of offended voters shows your true stripes. Having it out in public about Biden (and the party) is almost certainly worth it, except if you’re are very old.

The overwhelming majority of Americans support Israel - both republicans and democrats.

Biden has been pushing for cease-fires, for aid to Palestinians and for a two state solution.

The GOP wants none of these things.

There is a difference, no matter how much people on either side of the fringes want to deny it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If both Trump and Biden get nominated, but have minimal popularity, then a write-in or third party candidate might actually have a shot. We can hope!

There is zero chance of that happening. Name a single politician or duo (P/VP) who could actually capture electoral college votes.

In a normal election I'd agree with you but with candidates as historically weak as Trump and Biden... ehhh, maybe

You didn’t name anyone. Noted.

+1

It’s Biden or Trump. Those pushing third party options this year are even more evil than they have been in the past.

Nader, Nader, Sander/Stein. Do not let the GOP end America.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His poll numbers are a result of things far beyond the war between Hamas and Israel.

It's not like he was "flying high" prior to Oct. 7.

But his move to Genocide Joe has made things so much worse for him! A self-inflected wound!

The vast majority Americans who are not either Jews or Muslims do not care at all about Israel/Palestine. Just another foreign war on foreign lands started by crazy terrorists like the people responsible for 9/11. No American service members are dying like in Iraq or Afghanistan. Most American normies care infinitely more about their grocery bill rising than some conflict abroad. If push comes to shove and you poll people on their opinion about this overseas war between foreigners, both Dems and Republicans side with Israel. Biden’s problems have nothing to do with this conflict.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If both Trump and Biden get nominated, but have minimal popularity, then a write-in or third party candidate might actually have a shot. We can hope!

There is zero chance of that happening. Name a single politician or duo (P/VP) who could actually capture electoral college votes.

In a normal election I'd agree with you but with candidates as historically weak as Trump and Biden... ehhh, maybe

You didn’t name anyone. Noted.

+1

It’s Biden or Trump. Those pushing third party options this year are even more evil than they have been in the past.

Nader, Nader, Sander/Stein. Do not let the GOP end America.

Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His poll numbers are a result of things far beyond the war between Hamas and Israel.

It's not like he was "flying high" prior to Oct. 7.

But his move to Genocide Joe has made things so much worse for him! A self-inflected wound!

The vast majority Americans who are not either Jews or Muslims do not care at all about Israel/Palestine. Just another foreign war on foreign lands started by crazy terrorists like the people responsible for 9/11. No American service members are dying like in Iraq or Afghanistan. Most American normies care infinitely more about their grocery bill rising than some conflict abroad. If push comes to shove and you poll people on their opinion about this overseas war between foreigners, both Dems and Republicans side with Israel. Biden’s problems have nothing to do with this conflict.

Caring does vary in it’s degree.

But a whole generation sees US warmongering in the Middle East, including our brain dead support for Israel, as part and parcel of our elites failures. And yes, most people care more about how those elite failures manifest close to home.

It’s silly to think this isn’t presaging even bigger problems.